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[mistysj 1,939]

The percent doesn't even matter. Some people might have bigger stomachs to start with. The surgeon is going for a specific capacity of volume as the end result. That's why they use a bougie. The main difference will be with stomach length at that point. From what I have read, most people have a capacity between 8 and 10 ounces when their stomach is fully healed. Doctors are not being mean or horrible by doing this surgery. What a weird attitude to take.

[O.T.R. sleever 3,386]

If I had a surgeon that removed less than all of the fundus from my stomach (approx 85% of the total stomach) I think he would be hearing from the state medical board. The whole point of this surgery is to creat a smaller, more restrictive stomach. Leaving fundus behind means that you could easily stretch your stomach back to its old dimensions. This is one of the major problems I have with RNY, the pouch is made from fundus, it starts about 2oz, but many people stretch it way out to he point they don't have restriction anymore. The sleeve once folly healed is about 8-10oz, that is plenty, many people are actually surprised at how much they can eat once all the swelling is gone.

[celticsoul218 5]

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[NancyDec20 212]

My doc also took 85% Im still in the beginning.. im only 4mo out and down 87lbs.. no way am I going back to eating all that food and gaining wt again.. I guess what I would do if that happen is go back to the drawing board.. see a doc and see why im binge eating.. then start over with the phases.. drink your protein..and sip sip sip.. exercise is a must.. liquids then purees working your way back up should shrink it back.. but thats just me.... and you for sure need a great support system.. do you have one? or someone you can call when you feel that binge eating coming on? find a buddy to lean on.. a voice of reason.. Im sure we all at one time or another pick up that cookie.. me.. I stay away from cookies..and if I eat something I really shouldnt.. Im off to the gym to work it off for sure.. and for me night time is my worst time too.. but I cant eat much for sure.. only a lil bit.. so Im ok there.. and my love for sugar free popsicles lol... but look into a doc visit..and get a support system.. and get yourself back on track.. you can do this.. you did before.. best of luck.. keep us posted.

[Ms.AntiBand 2,984]

I've never heard of a sleeve that small. What I've heard is that the sleeve will be anywhere from 20 to 30% smaller, depending on what you and your surgeon agree on.

Look at what's going on in the lap-band world. A ton of people are switching to the sleeve, where they are having outstanding results. I haven't seen any mention of someone's sleeve stretching and/or regaining the weight.

Make a decision and stick with it. That way you can stop worrying and looking for reasons not to do it. You'll love it, I'm sure!

I agree with OTR.. If I did'nt get the standard 85% removed I'd be pissssssed beyond comprehension. Sassy, I hope your doc didn't hoodwink you into a surgery that has a high rate of failure.

[SassySenior 111]

Hey, all, I'm happy for you. What I wrote was specific for the Aussie. It was tongue in cheek. I wasn't serious, she and I were just having fun. Sometimes you're gonna run across people like me who use irony or other writing styles to get their point across.

I'm sorry if I created any confusion or irritation for you guys. Never planned that. The Aussie knew I was kidding and we were laughing at that, which is why she wrote, "GULP"

My doctor is very conservative. He wants to be sure there are no problems. He still advocates the bypass as the "gold standard." He doesn't think the sleeve has been around long enough to be absolutely certain it's safe. I totally respect him. He is, after all, a true expert on bariatric surgery ... in executive committees all over the country on bariatric boards. Who knows, your doctor may have been one of the many he's proctored *taught." In my neck of the words, he is extremely well known and highly respected.

[celticsoul218 5]

I knew you were joking.

Hey, all, I'm happy for you. What I wrote was specific for the Aussie. It was tongue in cheek. I wasn't serious, she and I were just having fun. You do remember what that is, don't you? Try to remember that sometimes you'll run across people using irony or other writing styles to get their point across.

I'm sorry if I created any confusion or irritation for you guys. Never planned that. The Aussie knew I was kidding and we were laughing at that, which is why she wrote, "GULP"

My doctor is very conservative. He wants to be sure there are no problems. He still advocates the bypass as the "gold standard." He doesn't think the sleeve has been around long enough to be absolutely certain it's safe. I totally respect him. He is, after all, a true expert on bariatric surgery ... in executive committees all over the country on bariatric boards. Who knows, your doctor may have been one of the many he's proctored *taught." In my neck of the words, he is extremely well known and highly respected.

Again,sorry if I caused confusion or upsetupset. I'm really a chill person, hope you are, too!

p.s. Go back and read my post with a sense of humor. You may get a good laugh out of it.

[Ms.AntiBand 2,984]

You mean you were just joking about the 20-30% reduction?

I must have missed something.

[Sydney Susan 333]

Yes, the Aussie got it! Am at the hospital now... Gulp, gulp, gulp. Or should that be Sip, sip, sip.

[lizv123 389]

The percent doesn't even matter. Some people might have bigger stomachs to start with. The surgeon is going for a specific capacity of volume as the end result. That's why they use a bougie. The main difference will be with stomach length at that point. From what I have read' date=' most people have a capacity between 8 and 10 ounces when their stomach is fully healed. Doctors are not being mean or horrible by doing this surgery. What a weird attitude to take.[/quote']

That's true. My stomach was nearly fully healed after I left the hospital for my leak. I easily get 8-10 oz and have since shorlty after I started eating solids. But it still hasn't "stretched" any more. I wish I had more restriction, except when it comes to fluids. Unlike a lot of sleevers I have NO issues getting my fluids in, and fairly quickly. I can't "gulp" Water like I did before surgery, but I can take much bigger drinks than most sleevers, at least all the ones I see around support group and stuff. Some are years out, even. I had 85% removed, and sometimes wish it was more. It was very alarming at first after prepping for years for a 4oz stomach, buying all these tiny containers, then once I got home from my month of strict NPO I could eat 2 "sleeve" sized meals! I thought it'd end up stretching I a normal sized stomach.

85% is not cruel. It's standard. Sometimes it's an even higher percent for those that have/had massively permastretched stomachs.

[SassySenior 111]

Toodles. I don't want to bring any more negativity than I have already. The Aussie is back, and that's really I care about.

[delta_girl 931]

I need to do a total detox, too. I've let a few things creep back into my diet and I am snacking way too much. I have been stuck at the same weight for around two months now (at 7 months out -75 lbs). Actually, I am up 3 lbs. I have about 20-30 lbs to goal, which I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to maintain if I get there. There are certainly challenges that I had not anticipated, but they aren't unique.

I "know" what to do but feel frozen for the moment. Extreme stress going on in other areas of life is getting all of my attention and I'm not focusing on taking care of me.

Nothing easy about this project.

[Ms.AntiBand 2,984]

Toodles. I don't want to bring any more negativity than I have already. The Aussie is back, and that's really I care about.

I'm still not understanding things. Granted, you only care about the Aussie, but perhaps help us understand? I don't see any negativity either.. Just curiosity.

[lizv123 389]

SS I think people are concerned about what's remaining on your sleeve. The more that's left the more likely it is to stretch to a large size. While a sleeve can hold 8-10 oz(ish it differs person to person) a stomach left with much fundus (the stretchy part) could end up holding much much more.

I do understand the faith you have in your surgeon. I'm happy you found such an informed doc, some aren't so lucky. I think people are just confused by your take on the standard amount of stomach removed. I, like OTR, would be pitching a fit if my stomach had 20-30% remaining! That puts our stretch rate right up there with RNY patients, and the whole reason I went with the sleeve was the permanent restriction benefits.

Aussie! Glad you're back! Hope you're doing well! congrats on your tummy's birthday!

And little addressed fact, the sleeve has been around just as long as the golden standard RNY, but has had soooo many different names and slight differences (removing the fundus from the body, leaving it in, bougie size, etc) that it hasn't been advertised as a "solid", for lack of a better term, WLS option.

[No game 14,436]

Perhaps the senior was having a "senior moment" and got the numbers wrong.,.