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I remember the belts that claim they build muscles in the core through rapid zaps of low level voltage causing rapid contractions of the muscles. Needless to say' date=' I am sure those are off the market now.[/quote']

Full disclosure: I was one of those guys that has tried everything out there to lose weight before WLS. Belt shocker, wrap, hoodia, Atkins, WW, bulimia, anorexia. You name it and I have probably experimented with it. I do not have any reason to hide this as I am generally an open book with people. That is also why I went down the path of WLS. Sure, some of these things helped take off weight, but I always put it back on because I did not address my head issues. Anyone should be able to try something, as long as it is not going to harm them. If it helps them get rid of those stubborn last 5 lbs, why not? If it helps them break a stall, why not. You will not realize how at peace you can be until you have let go of head issues.

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I am actually a distributor so you can go to my web page and check them out. :) www.richardsonwraps.myitworks.com if you have any questions about anything I can try to help you. :)

I'm not trying to sell anything.... BUT... lol

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Full disclosure: I was one of those guys that has tried everything out there to lose weight before WLS. Belt shocker' date=' wrap, hoodia, Atkins, WW, bulimia, anorexia. You name it and I have probably experimented with it. I do not have any reason to hide this as I am generally an open book with people. That is also why I went down the path of WLS. Sure, some of these things helped take off weight, but I always put it back on because I did not address my head issues. Anyone should be able to try something, as long as it is not going to harm them. If it helps them get rid of those stubborn last 5 lbs, why not? If it helps them break a stall, why not. You will not realize how at peace you can be until you have let go of head issues.[/quote']

Fiddleman I've tried most of those things and more! Well except for the bulimia thing (never could trigger that pesky gag reflex) :P

This surgery is NOT a quick miracle fix, it's a serious medical procedure that we literally put our life's on the line to do... Why? because we no longer believe in "miracle" cures and it was time to do something drastic to hopefully prolong our lives! The last five pounds will be as hard as the first 50 it will take hard work and determination.

And for some of us?? another serious medical procedure.

I personally don't want to come here and see anyone trying to sell their products.

Much love to you Fiddleman! :)

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I'll have you know that those shocking wraps really did work. But I wasn't going for fat loss, I was going for that attractive burned spot look. I reluctantly sent them away for a refund after the class action lawsuit. :(

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I'll have you know that those shocking wraps really did work. But I wasn't going for fat loss' date=' I was going for that attractive burned spot look. I reluctantly sent them away for a refund after the class action lawsuit. :([/quote']

I have a "slightly used" Taser you can have!

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Fiddleman I've tried most of those things and more! Well except for the bulimia thing (never could trigger that pesky gag reflex) :P

This surgery is NOT a quick miracle fix' date=' it's a serious medical procedure that we literally put our life's on the line to do... Why? because we no longer believe in "miracle" cures and it was time to do something drastic to hopefully prolong our lives! The last five pounds will be as hard as the first 50 it will take hard work and determination.

And for some of us?? another serious medical procedure.

I personally don't want to come here and see anyone trying to sell their products.

Much love to you Fiddleman! :)[/quote']

Thanks Laura. You know I value your input.

Absolutely agree with you. I was tired at failing at achieving fitness by trying quick solutions. Everyone who has had WLS will probably say the same thing. Well, except for those Vogue runway fashion models who use WLS to stay thin. That being said, I want to encourage folks to feel free to try something after WLS if it will help them. They are adults and can make rational decisions about using products and programs to give them the extra help. How different would you say taking a fat burner is from exercising is from eating good quality foods is from core exercises is from TT surgery is from drinking green drinks is from taking antioxidants ? All are different paths a person can take to eliminate fat from around the tummy. One approach may work better for one person then another approach.

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And I value you and your input on this site AND on this thread..

I just don't like people "hawking their wares"

Laura

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Thanks Laura. You know I value your input.

Absolutely agree with you. I was tired at failing at achieving fitness by trying quick solutions. Everyone who has had WLS will probably say the same thing. Well' date=' except for those Vogue runway fashion models who use WLS to stay thin. That being said, I want to encourage folks to feel free to try something after WLS if it will help them. They are adults and can make rational decisions about using products and programs to give them the extra help. How different would you say taking a fat burner is from exercising is from eating good quality foods is from core exercises is from TT surgery is from drinking green drinks is from taking antioxidants ? All are different paths a person can take to eliminate fat from around the tummy. One approach may work better for one person then another approach.[/quote']

Fiddleman, I think you have a really valid point here. And I *think* I'm on the same page as Laura when I say, that for me, my problem with this particular thread, isn't necessarily the consideration of whether body wraps work or not.

In fact, I actually believe that they could work. Short term. Much like a lot of "weight loss miracle" products. My problem with this thread isn't the wraps, despite honestly thinking they give people (expensive) false hope for results that won't last. My problem is that the thread was started as a "Anyone tried these or know if they work?" and then 3 pages later, the OP is posting her sales distribution website.

As a obese person (and particularly an obese woman) I feel targeted all the time by expensive products that claim they will provide me the results that I have desperately been trying to reach on my own, my whole life. We come here to share experiences, help and support each other through a major change in our lives. This is not the place to make a sales pitch! If it was honestly just a discussion among WLS patients about whether these things work or not, I would feel much differently about this thread!

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As a obese person (and particularly an obese woman) I feel targeted all the time by expensive products that claim they will provide me the results that I have desperately been trying to reach on my own' date=' my whole life. We come here to share experiences, help and support each other through a major change in our lives. This is not the place to make a sales pitch! If it was honestly just a discussion among WLS patients about whether these things work or not, I would feel much differently about this thread![/quote']

EXACTLY!

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Haha she comes out boxing!

Your asking people if they have used them? And had results? But yet you sell them??

Then you say;

"I have found people who have used them and have been successful in keeping their skin firm using these wraps after having surgery. "

So why did you need to ask in the first place!!!

:P

OK Let me rephrase that. I have found people on here who have used them and have been successful with them. Were you this much of a b**** when you were fat if so I feel sorry for whoever you're around if not maybe you should get fat again. And if you don't like what I have to ask then stay off of the question if you haven't used them then you're no help anyways.

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OK Let me rephrase that. I have found people on here who have used them and have been successful with them. Were you this much of a b**** when you were fat if so I feel sorry for whoever you're around if not maybe you should get fat again. And if you don't like what I have to ask then stay off of the question if you haven't used them then you're no help anyways.

learn that potty mouth in your snake oil/body wrap training sessions??

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I'm not trying to sell anything.... BUT... lol

If you had any common sense you would realize that Hmmm maybe the website has information about all the products. Doesn't take a genius to know that.

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OK Let me rephrase that. I have found people on here who have used them and have been successful with them. Were you this much of a b**** when you were fat if so I feel sorry for whoever you're around if not maybe you should get fat again. And if you don't like what I have to ask then stay off of the question if you haven't used them then you're no help anyways.

Umm.. First off I am still fat! :P

And yeah... That's the best you have is a low blow name calling response???

Hehe..I've been called much worse, from much better!

I was not attacking you as a person!

I was verbalizing my distaste of miracle cures

AND PEOPLE TRYING TO SELL THEM HERE!

I will forgive you this once..

because you may be struggling and need to make money?

Laura

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If you had any common sense you would realize that Hmmm maybe the website has information about all the products. Doesn't take a genius to know that.

Lol yes, but I can't help but notice you direct interested parties to YOUR personal sales website. Not general information about the product from the manufacturer.

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Fiddleman' date=' I think you have a really valid point here. And I *think* I'm on the same page as Laura when I say, that for me, my problem with this particular thread, isn't necessarily the consideration of whether body wraps work or not.

In fact, I actually believe that they could work. Short term. Much like a lot of "weight loss miracle" products. My problem with this thread isn't the wraps, despite honestly thinking they give people (expensive) false hope for results that won't last. My problem is that the thread was started as a "Anyone tried these or know if they work?" and then 3 pages later, the OP is posting her sales distribution website.

As a obese person (and particularly an obese woman) I feel targeted all the time by expensive products that claim they will provide me the results that I have desperately been trying to reach on my own, my whole life. We come here to share experiences, help and support each other through a major change in our lives. This is not the place to make a sales pitch! If it was honestly just a discussion among WLS patients about whether these things work or not, I would feel much differently about this thread![/quote']

Didn't realize you couldn't state facts on here. I love how people twist things around to try and make a person look bad. I heard from a couple people on here that this site has turned to negative people and bashing all the time. I guess this is true. I asked this question BEFORE I decided to sell.

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