Why Lie?!?!

[kimkai75 59]

I think you and I are two different people' date=' and there is really no way we can relate to each other.

It happens... I should of realized it at the word

"Titties"[/quote']

Ok so now you know and you can respond to those you can "relate" to. Keep it moving.

[Geminidrive 389]

being a psych nurse, I know "delusional" well and what I can say to you is that there is not enough information here to say if someone is having delusions or not. I don't know if you really don't know what that means, if you like to armchair diagnose over the internet because it makes you feel better about yourself, or what this is but not only is it a pet peeve to any ACTUAL professionals when people do that type of thing, its silly.

Maybe I'm touchy about it because I'm actually going to school for my NP so I have diagnosing rights or maybe you just rub me the wrong way every time I see a post from you because it almost always rings of superiority... but that type of thing is just silly to say the least.

The women could be having any number of issues. Do people understand that dumping syndrome is not exclusive to gastric bypass surgery?

ANY type of gastrointestinal operation, and I am not just talking about weight loss surgery. In fact, not a single one of those symptoms listed exclusive to any type of weight loss surgery, and they are all extremely common with LOTS of different procedures, sicknesses, and even psychological issues. These are common, common, COMMON.

That being said, is it likely that maybe she had a WLS procedure? Sure, it is not unreasonable to think that, but if you think for one second its any of your business and this woman should just fess up and tell you, I question how you came to decide you were entitled to this information. She could be feeling shame about failed dieting attempts, she could be experiencing complications that she doesn't want to talk about, she could be upset about her choice, or she may just be a private person. And all of that is assuming that she DID in fact have weight loss surgery.

I just want to say this one last thing before I unsubscribe from this thread, because its crawling with busybody type women (which is supremely unappealing). The more educated you get, the more you realize how much you do not understand about things. My years in the medical field (even though I am young, I've been in medicine since I was 18) have taught me that you really cannot assume anything. You just can't. You.don't.know. ANYTHING. It's laughable to watch all these people here with so little information grasp at straws to make every situation applicable to themselves. Maybe its comforting for people to feel like they are not the only ones who made the choice to do this, but that is what this community is for. You do not need to reach out to UNWILLING participants in your own lives and try to drag something out of them they don't want to share or might not even be true. Only you look stupid in the end for those types of clear boundary issues. Let them be, love them, they probably need it. Maybe if you were not digging for dirt they might share what is really going on with them.

You humor and amaze me. Unlike you I don't let anyone or anything "rub me the wrong way" that takes too much energy. Seems to me you just seek me out to contradict my opinion. If you think my posts have the ring of superiority, that's your opinion, don't read them. Personally, if I don't like someone I ignore them, you are welcome to do that. I know who I am and what I am and I don't worry about what you or anyone else thinks of me, I'm entitled to my opinions and thoughts and I'm going to keep voicing them. My journey is my story, I can't speak for anyone but myself.

[NurseGrace 509]

You humor and amaze me. Unlike you I don't let anyone or anything "rub me the wrong way" that takes too much energy. Seems to me you just seek me out to contradict my opinion. If you think my posts have the ring of superiority, that's your opinion, don't read them. Personally, if I don't like someone I ignore them, you are welcome to do that. I know who I am and what I am and I don't worry about what you or anyone else thinks of me, I'm entitled to my opinions and thoughts and I'm going to keep voicing them. My journey is my story, I can't speak for anyone but myself.

If you dedicated your life to something you would care, trust me. But even this rings of some strange interpersonal weirdness. You're so good that you are unaffected by what other people think, or that's what you would have me and everyone else believe. I actually do not seek you out, but we seem to have similar forum interests because we do bump into each other a lot here on this site. That's fine. I'm sure in life you are a perfectly reasonable nice woman, but the way you put things here in this "I don't give a f**k about what anyone thinks" attitude is just not reality for anyone. It's a big game people talk, but it's only true for people with personality disorders and the disturbed, of which I would venture to say you have NEITHER.

[Geminidrive 389]

If you dedicated your life to something you would care, trust me. But even this rings of some strange interpersonal weirdness. You're so good that you are unaffected by what other people think, or that's what you would have me and everyone else believe. I actually do not seek you out, but we seem to have similar forum interests because we do bump into each other a lot here on this site. That's fine. I'm sure in life you are a perfectly reasonable nice woman, but the way you put things here in this "I don't give a f**k about what anyone thinks" attitude is just not reality for anyone. It's a big game people talk, but it's only true for people with personality disorders and the disturbed, of which I would venture to say you have NEITHER.

Actually it is a reality for me, I really don't care what others say or think of me, takes too much energy, perhaps that is what bothers you about me. Sorry I touched a nerve.

[NurseGrace 509]

Actually it is a reality for me, I really don't care what others say or think of me, takes too much energy, perhaps that is what bothers you about me. Sorry I touched a nerve.

I see. *looks around knowingly* tehehehe.

[ebonisekim 1,713]

Regardless of how an individual chooses to cope with what they are saying' date=' it is still a lie... Lying by omission. Had you not had your tool, do any of us think we would have dropped that amount of weight in such a short time... NO! I wouldn't have been to survive on 400, 600, 800 calorie diet.

It is your choice whether you choose to share because it is your biz, but I guarantee you that if most of those individuals who choose to omit their "tool" lost weight the conventional way, you wouldn't be able to shut them up! So why play down the sleeve, as if you are doing it by yourself. If you don't want to disclose the full truth, don't say anything. At least you would not be setting someone up whose trying to lose a significant amount of weight up for failure.

Just my thoughts.[/quote']

I agree because you tell some one you eating healthier true but the sleeve has helped u make better choices ..sleevers wouldn't be able to control their portion w out the sleeve best thing that's every happen to them but you shout out other wonderful things that's going in w your life but the sleeve is being down played ..by all means don't shout it out at a dinner party but if someone is comfortable to ask you it's some connection to you guys relationship a stranger off the street is not going to kno you are sleeved

[Geminidrive 389]

I see. *looks around knowingly* tehehehe.

Tee-hee back atcha. Glad I made you laugh!

[ebonisekim 1,713]

So it seems that you are speaking about when a significantly overweight acquaintance asks???

I think not everyone here is referring to that scenario..

I really think coming down on someone because of their personal experience and the way they chose to deal with it is very judgmental... And not constructive in the least bit..

Yes she was the one asking (overweight acquaintance ) that's what this thread is about not so much as telling but ppl who general wants help and their asking

[No game 14,436]

Is that true Gemini ?? I mean that you really "don't care" what others say to you?

I'm not including what others "think" .

But are you really not interested in others thoughts or views when it comes to having a conversation about ones self unless they fall completely in line with your views of self?

I find this really interesting..

[No game 14,436]

Yes she was the one asking (overweight acquaintance ) that's what this thread is about not so much as telling but ppl who general wants help and their asking

I do realize that was the original point of the thread but as you can see? It has, like so many threads taken many different directions..

Thank you for you concern though..

[ebonisekim 1,713]

I do realize that was the original point of the thread but as you can see? It has' date=' like so many threads taken many different directions..

Thank you for you concern though..[/quote']

I'm just stated facts that's all and yes it always take a turn oh your welcome

[Pelekania 156]

Tee-hee back atcha. Glad I made you laugh!

Please excuse her, it seems as though her ID has run rampant.

Rather amusing I must say, a nurse (I.e. NA, CNA, RN), who knows what her credentials are, is trying to provide a psychological perspective to the opinion that you provided... a field she has not been formally educated in.

[Geminidrive 389]

Please excuse her, it seems as though her ID has run rampant.

Rather amusing I must say, a nurse (I.e. NA, CNA, RN), who knows what her credentials are, is trying to provide a psychological perspective to the opinion that you provided... a field she has not been formally educated in.

LOL, I love it!!!!

[ttammara 11]

I had surgery 1/14/2013. When i was apporved for surgery it was one of the happiest days in my life. I am very open about having the surgery. I tell everyone the benifits of having it. I even tell the skinny people because they might know a "fat person" and can encourage them to look in to the surgery. Some people are scared and don't know anyone that have had surgery.

I know to some it is private, but in a way I feel you are being selfish not to share something that can change someones life.

I understand people can be very judgemental. Just think maybe you can change one persons life. Maybe you can save one persons life. Just because you were open and honest about something that changed your life.

[ttammara 11]

I had surgery 1/14/2013. When i was apporved for surgery it was one of the happiest days in my life. I am very open about having the surgery. I tell everyone the benifits of having it. I even tell the skinny people because they might know a "fat person" and can encourage them to look in to the surgery. Some people are scared and don't know anyone that have had surgery.

I know to some it is private, but in a way I feel you are being selfish not to share something that can change someones life.

I understand people can be very judgemental. Just think maybe you can change one persons life. Maybe you can save one persons life. Just because you were open and honest about something that changed your life.