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A friend of Dorothy is a fan of Judy Garland and because she is a known gay icon the phrase is known by a lot of older gays as code. If you asked a younger gay person if they are a friend of Dorothy's "wink, wink" they wouldn't know what the hell your talking about. lol...

It's an old phrase from when being gay meant a death sentence a jail sentence or a severe beating.

sadly the days of Judy Garland are disappearing, but we still have Shirley Bassey (another gay icon). :001_smile:

I know 25lbs is great. I passed my stall weight and now I feel hopeful to get the rest off. I just have to get off my ass and start exercising.

Will

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So was Judy Garland Gay? I never knew that.

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So was Judy Garland Gay? I never knew that.

No, Judy Garland was straight, but she was an advocate for the gay community, and gay rights.

Correct me if I'm wrong Will, but I'm pretty sure that's why she is considered a gay icon.

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Oh okay, I get it now. That makes more sense.

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Hi Will. I haven't been on this forum in ages. I thought you were family though from your posts on other forums. Something about your other posts made my gaydar go ding ding ding. :-)

What are you doing in Yellowknife? Are you from there? Do you get midnight sun? I live in the SW desert so Yellowknife seems exotic.

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Hi Lisa,

Now I haven't been on in ages and just saw your post.

Yes I was born close to Yellowknife in a village called Deninu k'ue (very tiny place).

Our summers are beautiful 24 hours of sun. Plus this area is very arid so there are no clouds or rain in the summer. Unfortunately in the winter we also get 24 hours of dark, but you adjust.

Thank you for the nice post and I apologies for the tardiness of my reply.

Will

Hi Will. I haven't been on this forum in ages. I thought you were family though from your posts on other forums. Something about your other posts made my gaydar go ding ding ding. :-)

What are you doing in Yellowknife? Are you from there? Do you get midnight sun? I live in the SW desert so Yellowknife seems exotic.

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How did I miss this thread! Congratulations on your weight loss Will, I'm jealous nearly 7 weeks out and lost a bit less than you, but I know men lose quicker than woman, my husband's losing weight and I'm the one with the sleeve! Just had to mention I LOVE GAY Guys, you're the best, my best friend is gay and I love him to bits! Good luck on the rest of your journey.

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Oh okay, I get it now. That makes more sense.

Part of the Dorothy thing is the song in Wizard of Oz, "Somewhere over the Rainbow" as the rainbow flag is a symbol of the gay community. The idea of dancing down the road with good friends, etc. The Witch wrote in the sky, Surrender Dorothy. This sort of suggests that one should not be fighting who they are.

Just some thoughts.

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Oh okay, I get it now. That makes more sense.

Part of the Dorothy thing is the song in Wizard of Oz, "Somewhere over the Rainbow" as the rainbow flag is a symbol of the gay community. The idea of dancing down the road with good friends, etc. The Witch wrote in the sky, Surrender Dorothy. This sort of suggests that one should not be fighting who they are.

Just some thoughts.

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