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My surgeon says sleeve is better for diabetics if that helps any.

The exact opposite has been true for me. When I was banded, I managed my type 2 diabetes with very little effort and no medication. Since being sleeved, my blood sugar has gone crazy, causing miserable side effects and goodness only knows what damage to my body, and I now have to take metformin and eat 8+ times/day to keep my blood sugar steadier.

But aside from that...weight loss alone will improve type 2 diabetes, and gastric bypass surgery is the only surgery that the medical establishment recognizes as an effective treatment for diabetes.

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You also don't have to work as hard.

That is just not true.

There is no such thing as an easy, foolproof, risk-free, one-size-fits-all WLS procedure. The dietitian who reviewed Bandwagon and wrote a foreword for Bandwagon Cookery once said at a WLS support group meeting that bandsters have to make lifestyle changes immediately in order to succeed, but that eventually, every WLS patient must make those same changes in order to lose weight and keep the weight off for the rest of their life. It's a pay me now or pay me later thing.

Every WLS patient must fight the eating demons that live in our heads. WLS happens in the abdomen, not the brain.

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My daughter is 19 so I am worried about her being cut up so young .

I'm not sure that any obese person needs a full-sized stomach, but I would also be concerned about someone so young having the sleeve. For one thing, 75-80% of her stomach would be lost forever. If she one day decided she'd chosen the wrong surgery, she won't ever get that chunk of stomach back. It'll be gone forever, and she'll have to make the best of what she's got. That's a bitter pill for me to swallow at age 59; I can't imagine how that would feel to some 40 years younger.

My other concern is that 19 is very young to be making a decision like this. I can understand that you don't want your daughter to grow up obese, with all the social and medical problems that can involve, but if I'd been able to have WLS at that age, I don't think I would've been mature enough to handle it. To succeed longterm, she's going to have to make a lot of behavioral and lifestyle changes at a time when she's still growing and maturing. Also, in his book about the gastric sleeve, Dr. Guillermo Alvarez writes candidly about some teenaged patients of his who were sleeved. Some have done well (so far) but some of them have made a mess of their lives because they just could not wrap their minds around so many changes in their bodies so fast. Social and sexual relationships are a big problem for those kids.

My suggestion is that you and your daughter go to see your surgeon together and talk about the options. Then I would leave the room and let her talk to the doctor by herself, and after that (if she gives you permission) you could talk about it with the doctor while she waits for you in the waiting room. At age 19, legally able to vote and serve in the military, your daughter is in some respects an adult in charge of her own body, but you will always be her mother, and if I were you, I'd want to hang onto her a little bit tighter as she goes through this life-changing process.

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I was banded for almost 5 years and have been sleeved for 5 months. I have posted several times recently about my experience, so you might want to check out these threads on the band vs sleeve debate.

http://www.lapbandtalk.com/topic/163124-help-guys-band-or-sleeve-im-scheduled-for-band-feb1/

http://www.lapbandtalk.com/topic/162501-conveting-from-band-to-sleeve-has-anyone-at-or-near-goal-weight-done-this/

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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      1. summerseeker

        Life as a big person had limited my life to what I knew I could manage to do each day. That was eat. I hadn't anything else to look forward to. So my eating choices were the best I could dream up. I planned the cooking in managable lots in my head and filled my day with and around it.

        Now I have a whole new big, bigger, biggest, best days ever. I am out there with those skinny people doing stuff i could never have dreamt of. Food is now an after thought. It doesn't consume my day. I still enjoy the good home cooked food but I eat smaller portions. I leave food on my plate when I am full. I can no longer hear my mother's voice saying eat it all up, ther are starving children in Africa who would want that!

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        BTW, the liquid diet sucks, one more day and you are over the worst. You can do it.

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