anonemouse

Look, can we just try to bury the hatchet? I really try to be nice to you, sometimes, because like I've said in other posts, you have been nice to me. Some of your posts just come across as being passive aggressive. And honestly, that puts my back up and makes me want to make digs at you. I'd rather someone be completely aggressive towards me than passive-aggressive. It's one of my touchy pet peeves. If I'm misunderstanding your posts, I'm not the only one. I think that's something that's been setting a few of us off. But if I am misunderstanding your posts, I apologize.

I'm seriously sorry if I'm appearing that way to you. But the fact is, I was hurt by your actions on OH. You may not have been overtly "mean" to me, but your actions didn't appear the way you intended them, I think. The posts that you meant to be funny and tension-relieving really felt like sarcastic jabs. And at the time, it felt like insult on top of injury. So yeah, I'm a little wary around you.

Look, I'll be upfront with you. Totally, completely honest. You don't have to say that OH sucks. It has a few redeeming factors. Very few, IMO, but I can understand someone liking the place. The fact is, though, Wendell WAS a victim. Was he a perfect angel with spotless behavior? No, and NO ONE here has said he was. But he was a victim. Sandy victimized him the second she wrote the first PM that she sent to a newby, telling them that she supposedly had his medical information. IMO, yes, Sandy is the devil. Or at least a severely disturbed, narcissistic woman. You don't have to admit that she's the devil to admit that her actions were WRONG, illegal, and immoral. That's all we're asking here, for someone to do that. So far, though, all we've gotten is "I talked to her about it" and "yes, she's responsible." It's not enough.

Thank you for this. It really was appreciated. It goes a long way to relieving the resentment I felt. I do have one issue with it, though. What you did to me wasn't "calling someone out" or "asking me publically." You attacked me. Like I said in either this thread or the other, I even got PMs from people that were close friends of yours, apologizing for you, because they felt you went way over the line. It hurt and it was extremely humiliating. I had been a member for close to a year. I didn't post every single day, but I wasn't a lurker, either. What shocked me was that you felt like it was your right to treat me like that, like it was your responsibility. So yes, I do really appreciate the apology. I just wish I didn't have to publically post about the whole thing to get it.

EXACTLY. All we've gotten is "yes, she's responsible." And honestly, that makes us think that either people just don't understand HOW BAD the stuff she did was, or they just don't care.

My responses are bold and black.

Well, jeeze, you should have spoken up, then, when that group was attacking everyone in sight. You didn't. To me, if someone doesn't speak up against the bully, they might as well be the bully. And no, sitting around and cracking jokes about the bullying doesn't count as speaking up against it.

You do realize that when addressing the members of a group, you generally referred to the members in the plural, right? I wasn't speaking to just you. I was talking about my general frustration here. And lastly, if you want support, go to the freakin' support pages. The Rants and Raves forum isn't about supporting your fellow bansters. It's about RANTING and RAVING, for Pete's sake. It's right there in the name. I don't get why it's so hard for some people to understand that. And Chelle, that statement wasn't referencing just you, in case you were wondering. We've had LOTS of people that don't realize that RnR isn't a support forum.

Don't let the folks at the office give you any grief for "failing to pay your bills," PC. They can't do ANYTHING to you, since you've only failed to pay for a procedure that you haven't received. They can't go after you for not paying for a surgery you've never had.

I thought I would chime in here, too, since I'm one of the younger bandsters here (I was 23 when I had surgery). I definitely agree with the advice to make sure she's ready for all the changes that having surgery would bring. Make sure that she knows she HAS to make those changes. I also think that her timeline is a little out of perspective. She may lose fairly quickly in the beginning, due to her size (larger people tend to lose weight faster at first), but she will probably still have a long way to go when her prom rolls around. Plus, she'll likely have loose skin to deal with, also. You need to make her realize that banding isn't a walk in the park. She'll have to severely limit liquid calories like ice cream, she'll have to give up all carbonation, she'll have to eat very small meals, she might be limited in what she CAN eat, she may have problems PBing and sliming, she'll probably have to deal with unsightly skin (few bandsters have genes for skin that bounces back to the point she would probably want), and she may face teasing due to her new habits. But, if she accepts all of those, and is still interested in having surgery, I wish you and her the best of luck with it.

So am I. No one wants to rant and rave, apparently. Figures. Once I get the first chance I've had all weekend to get online, everyone leaves.

I had restriction immediately after my first fill, but it was VERY little. For example instead of eating a piece and a half of lasagna, I'd eat one piece. I could eat bread, pizza, whatever, as long as I chewed very well. I could still gulp.

Quote: Originally Posted by Coo I'm so envious! With the lack of hunger, does the "head hunger" diminish too? I just want to have no interest in food. Sounds like you are in a place many of us want to be! Fortunately for me, the stuff that I really LOVED and CRAVED before banding is stuff that I can't physically eat right now (bread, pizza, etc.). For me, that takes care of the cravings, for the most part. Once you KNOW that something will cause intense pain if you eat it, it loses a lot of its appeal. One thing I have experienced since this last fill is that even if I do get hungry and crave something, once I sit down to actually eat and take that first bite, the cravings and most of the hunger just disappear.

Visiting family for the weekend. And this week, I'm working at my parents' veterinary clinic cuz one of their workers is on vacation, so I will be here very little (probably not at all during the day) until Thursday or Friday.

Do you honestly expect us to believe that y'all weren't passing PMs and emails around like candy? Seriously? Enough has been said here and at OH that we all know that isn't true. I am getting sick and tired of the "poor Sandy" routine that you guys have going. We're supposed to believe that Wendell is the root of all evil, apparently. Give me a fucking break. While none of us here have pretended that Wendell was an angel, he certainly didn't force Sandy to act the way she did and he didn't force you guys to act the way you did. And while I can understand not wanting to admit just how bad Sandy's actions were (after all, she pretended to be your friend, I guess), I can't understand the focus that you guys seem to have on believing that Wendell forced her into anything. Guess what? She is an adult. She could have put him on "block" on OH, and so could you guys. So what that he posted about protein shakes? Who cares? If you don't like to read someone's posts, DON'T.

That's a cop-out. I posted that PM because I felt that you lied about something. I'm not in the habit of posting someone's private conversations just because I don't agree with them. The fact is, I said something along the lines of you seeming to be a little two-faced, making negative posts about him one minute and then sending him PMs, trying to get him to show you his blog for your own purposes. You said something along the lines of "now, that's funny." I certainly wasn't going to let you get away with making a statement that implied that I was making the whole thing up. The fact is, I regret the whole thing. Not because it outed you, though, but because I allowed you to piss me off so much that I betrayed my friend's trust (wasn't Wendell, btw).

You know, I normally don't care for heated debates either, at least out in real life. Online, though? I don't see any reason to censor my thoughts and beliefs. You see, people online rarely affect my life. With very few exceptions, I don't CARE if I'm friends with them or not, since I'm not likely to ever meet them or speak to them in person. My online friends take me for what I am. Hell, they may even know me better than the people in real life, just because I don't have to censor myself for their benefit. If I'm going to be friends with someone, I'll be friends with them. But I'm not going to mold myself into something I'm not just to play nice.

Mine is Deranged Insanity. LOL!

Ooh, what'd you say, what'd you say?!

Eh, prefer the kitties, honestly. But I get to see my cat! He's been living at my parents' clinic since I've been in grad school (nasty apt manager doesn't allow pets). He's got lots of friends, though. My folks are soft touches when it comes to pets, so he's got a couple of roommates that I'll have to take along with him when I get a new place. One last reply... I can understand why they do it, it just rubs me wrong, though. It's kinda tacky. But, much less tacky than the folks who run out on their bills. I guess it's going to be the coming trend, though, to not trust anyone to actually live up to their responsibilities.

I guess. Honestly, I'm too tired to think right now. I need to go to bed, it's past 3 AM here. I might be back tomorrow, if not, probably Sunday night or Monday. Night, all!

Honestly, I don't know. I don't think I'd request the entire amount upfront. Maybe a down payment, or a portion, but not the whole thing. I don't think the two situations are entirely comparable. There is no such thing as editing insurance. I could understand a doctor requiring complete payment upfront, if there was no insurance involved. But when there is insurance, the surgeon knows he will be paid.

I might have to indulge myself tomorrow. At least it takes my mind off food, right? Hell. I was about to ask if I was the only one that didn't see Sandy's big long spiel of lies and BS on her profile. Then I looked at the bottom of the page. It wasn't scrolled over far enough. I need to go to sleep.

Yes, I do, but I don't pay for them before I go pick them off the shelves. I dunno, I guess it just rubs me the wrong way. Makes me think that they're just in it for the money. Hell, what am I thinking, this is the US, of course they are.

I'm halfway tempted to go to Dr. Kuri's website and send them an email about what Sandy said about him violating US law, just to see what the reply was. Might be interesting. Heck, might get her fired. It's more and more tempting, the more I think about it.