*slim*

Unfortunately, the problems with this scenario are 1. Mom has NO phone, and 2. she obviously has NO FOOD either. Her landlord called my house again yesterday to tell her that she deposited her deposit check. Why would she need her to call to tell she has deposited the freaking check if she actually had the money to cover it?!?!?!? My blood pressure has been up since Monday.

Am I the only one having trouble getting on here?

I read today that the hospital that has the babies is looking into a way to not release the babies to her. They are hoping to keep the babies while CPS investigates.

I say honey vanilla tea.

Thanks everyone for the support. It helps to know that I am not being selfish in this. She hasn't earned my love or respect. I am not just going to turn my house over to her.

That's just it. She has never done anything. I mean, even now when my DH says things like he never had birthday parties as a child, it makes me feel for the child that he was. Or when he was suspended from school (he was a badass), she woudn't take him back. They wouldn't allow the child to come back to school until the parents came with them. She wouldn't go (and acts proud that she produced a drop out). I talked him into going back to school. I helped him get his GED and then get his electrician's license. Now she wants to sit back and take credit. Well, I've got news for her, I raised her damn son to the man he is. She didn't do it. I know that sound bad, but he had no idea of how to be a man or what was expected of a man. I would have my uncles (all good men) talk to him. I kept putting my expectations out there. I kept telling him that he was better than minimum wage jobs. I heped him to understand that in order for him to be a decent father, he had to first start acting like a decent man. It just goes all over me. All of his awful qualities came from her. She is mean. I have never seen her be nice (other than to my step daughter). It just grates my nerves. Needless to say, my blood pressure goes through the roof just thinking about this woman.

My MIL has been an example of the type of woman that I NEVER want to be. She has truly lived up to the MIL from hell.

Nothing that I have read says he's offering support. He is just demanding a DNA test. He is obviously being just as self serving as she is.

It is so hard. I have never been the bad guy, but then I have never had to be. She has always ignored us (unless she needs something). I won't let her go hungry, but I also won't accept mooching. DH claims he has already handled it, but I just don't see it. It just went all over me that he just sat there and watched her like everything was ok. It isn't. I told him today that we need to move. Of course, I shouldn't have to move. She needs to understand that she is not welcome at my home all hours of the day. I already know that she is going to send the brother over whenever he says he is bored. I can also see them coming over wanting to use my washing machine every week. I can see all of the ugly scenarios that he isn't going to handle. If I handle them, it is going to get ugly. All I can say is this, he can go live with her if it comes down to it.

I don't know how they handle things in CA, but in TN if the mother is receiving any type of government assistance, they force the mother to tell who the possible father is for child support. If the father didn't have some type of legal agreement where he wasn't resposible for those kids, then he needs to start coughing up some cash to help those kids too. If he has insurance, they need to be added. He should not be able to get a pass just because he didn't know.

Part of my problem is, DH can talk about his mom all day, but I am not allowed. If I say anything, then I am being mean. He talks about how awful she has been to our son. He has even said something to her about it (she punched him in the stomach over it). Yet, he acts as though she is the best thing since sliced bread. He told me that she isn't allowed to be at our house everyday and that his brother had better not be sitting on our doorstep everyday, BUT today he tells me how we should have given his mom our leftovers from dinner yesterday. Then he goes on to tell me how we should start sending any food that is left over to her. I would rather toss my cash down the toilet than feed her. I know that is awful of me, but this woman has not cared. She calls my SD all of the time that lives out of town, but can't call across town to speak to my son? WTF? So now she lives close, I am supposed to "forget" all of the crap? It doesn't work that way.

Slitting my wrists sounds like the perfect solution. She came over and just sat around. She gave out my phone number and had the nerve to answer my phone without permission! WTF! I could not believe her. She acts as though her freaking son actually has anything to do with paying the bills in my house. She is in for a rude awakening. So is he, if he thinks I am going for them being at my house every day! If she can't afford to buy food, then she shouldn't have moved out from her sister who was buying their food! Of course, the sister probably put her out. I can't stand it. It gets my blood boiling every time I think about it. This woman hasn't lifted a finger for me or my son in his entire life, but I am supposed to make sure she eats? She didn't give a d@mn if me or my son ate. Why on earth should I care about her?

PJTP that my dear MIL (sarcasm) has decided to move near me (less than a block away). I haven't been worth talking to in a year, but now she LOVES me. Seems she can't afford food now that she is moving so close. She came over to eat last night (uninvited I might add). She is moving less than a block away. They have already called to ask if I am cooking tonight. I may not cook again for a long time!

SNT I am sorry to hear about your loss. I will be thinking of you and yours.

Exactly what I figured. Octomom is waiting for the big pay out. She doesn't care if her kids are taken care of. If she did, she wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. She obviously didn't expect the backlash from the public. She expected adoring fans, fawning over her and her brood. It isn't happening.

That isn't money in her pocket. I mean the tv show money or book money that she hasn't gotten. That donation takes care of the children, but she doesn't have her "I'm set for life" money at this point.

I figure he is too, but considering how much conflict that has surrounded this, why put yourself through the same thing? She hasn't cashed in with the big payout, so what makes him think he will?

You have to wonder what is in it for him to come out claiming to be the father.

I am currently having issues.

I spoke too soon. This page came up when I clicked from the email, but when I went to my subscribed threads and chose one, it would not load.

Not at the moment.

Kat-I am glad to hear that DD is home and doing much better. I cannot imagine what you all have gone through, but I am glad that the prognosis is much better than what you had originally been told. I'll be thinking of you and your family.

I hadn't heard about that. It is just so awful that she continues to deny what happened

If she bought it online, you would think they would be able to find that info on the computer's hard drive (even if it meant taking every computer from her family and friends homes). The proof of what she did is out there. She doesn't seem smart enough to cover her tracks that well.

I understand what you are talking about Debbie. I put mustard on my lunch meat rolls. I tried some fairly well done beef. I WON'T be doing that again. I have never chewed so much in my life. The beef did not want to go down. I gave up and just ate the salad. I am not really all that tight, so not being able to eat the beef was odd. I can do steak if it is cooked right. I guess we are all on a learning curve.