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Fluffy that is amazing! Congrats!! ??

Whaaaattt??? I’m just trying to keep up with you!

I no longer need to hide my tummy at all times!

It mean you have hit your goal and to stay at or near your targeted weight

I only have anecdotal evidence, but our stats are similar, minus the PCOS. I was quite low cal for most of my weight loss phase. I was actually under 500 cals for many, many days early on. I too was worried about wrecking my metabolism. I'm very grateful, that my metabolism doesn't appear to be damaged at all. I actually got below goal, and am currently working on how to maintain, and not continue to lose. I am currently averaging probably around 1500/day, and still losing, albeit slowly. (Eating healthily, and getting to 1500 cals is harder than I ever imagined it could be)

No, it's because if you eat more calories than you burn, no matter the source, you will gain weight. I could eat Doritos and wash it down with Coke everyday and lose wight. Or I could eat "fresh, organic, non processed" fruits, grains, dairy, meats, and gain weight. Weight loss is (nearly) all about quantity, not quality. You continually put forth this false premise that everyone on this forum is anti-carb. The facts are @MGBinIsrael is currently eating a relatively high carb, high-ish calorie diet. He is unhappy with his stalled weight loss, and lack of satiety. He asked for help, but when given solid advice he either ignores or argues against it.

I felt weak and shaky a few weeks post op, it turned out to be low B12 levels

Some people get lucky and have reduced hunger, but it is certainly no guarantee, especially with a bypass since your stomach is all still intact. Just because you are hungry doesn't mean you have to eat. Have you tried to push past your hunger? I find that drinking calorie free drinks will let me get past the hunger hump. It is hard at first, but it gets easier and easier each day. You really need to log your food. You need to see how many cals your eating. You need to be able to pin point which foods trigger you to be more hungry. As is said over and over on these boards, this surgery isn't magic. All weight loss comes down to burning more than you consume. WLS makes it easier for us to do that, but we can't just sit back and expect the surgery to do all the work.

Yes, this!!

I have had issues with B12 starting shortly post WLS. I at first got injections. But now I take a sublingual about once a week, and that seems to have solved it in my case.

I also have an issue with keeping vitamins down, even before I was sleeved. I spoke to my surgeons PA about it because I couldn't keep any of the recommended brands down. She recommended Whole Foods Prenatal, and it has been great, it doesn't upset my stomach at all.

Just a word of warning ... I prepped just as you did, had a house full of purees on hand. And I ate about 10% of them. I donated or threw away 90%. You will really be eating very little at this point. I still spent a lot of my day drinking protein shakes, to get the minimum in. That didn't leave a lot of time or stomach room for purees.

But we are talking a sweet treat, not a meal .... @GradyCat that pic looks delicious!

? I was actually picturing you awkwardly perched on his knee

It's actually more noticeable (and not in a good way) then my hair loss was. I'll be happy when it is long enough to lay flat!

I also started losing hair at 3 months post op, at about 6 months post op it stopped. Now at over a year post op it is growing back. I have about 3 inch long chicken hair sticking out all over ?

One way to keep the weight off ?

@SteveT74 I do also appreciate your well thought out responses and your passion. The bolded part of your response is the crux of what I disagree with. The science of diet, weight loss, metabolism is not at all cut and dry. For every study that says one thing, you will find a study that contradicts it. I stick by my assertion that you have made a lot of assumptions, or maybe a better term is have opinions, and are treating them as facts. "you're excluding important micronutrients .. we can take supplements but most of those pillsonly mimic the Vitamins" "your going to risk liver and kindney damage and possibly failure" "It will also help her in the long run potentially avoid some of the nutritional pitfalls that could happen (like Hair loss and other more significant issues)." "you need to have fats in your diet" " you should still try to get your calorie consumption up near 1000k a day. It's not going to really change your rate of weight loss significantly (it might slow things a tiny bit), but it will help you prevent regain to get yourself to a point where you can eat a sustainable amount of calories daily. You don't want your body to adapt to 600 calories a day and base your new set point on maintenance at that level. That's not a recipe for long term success."

Yeah, that makes no sense at all. If you are consuming below your BMR, and get to the point where you stop losing, doesn't that mean you've lowered your BMR to that super low point? Then wouldn't that guarantee regain, ot a miserable life of counting calories and hunger. F all that! This is an example of why I wasn't a very compliant post WLS patient. Nutritionist are all over the place. I just took the commonalities of all programs (protein first, for example) and applied my own common sense, vs. strictly following the dogma of the particular nutritionist that was part of my program.

I think I had body dysmorphia pre WLS. Me right now, feels like the real me. I really feel like I'm the same person only with cuter clothes and saggier skin. The only thing that feels foreign is my energy level. Looking back I just didn't realize that my feet didn't hurt in heels, that walking a mile was no big deal. But after being overweight and avoiding any form of exertion (outside of cardio), and having constantly aching feet, I totally believed that was the norm. Weirdly, little stuff like that is the only thing that takes getting used to. I am frightened of regain. I mean right now I'm doing the opposite of what every bariatric nutritionist would advise. But if I followed the rules, I would still be losing. So I haven't done the psychological work needed for when this crazy fantasy land I am in comes to an end. But, what I cling to, is my determination. I freaking love my new skinny wardrobe. I am going to be spending A LOT of money on plastics. I am too stubborn and vain to backtrack significantly. Additionally, IF was a revelation for me. I feel that IF is a long term sustainable option for me. Most days are truly not a struggle. I need a long term eat strategy that fits me. I could go low carb, but I know myself, and that would make me miserable. So I see IF as my safety net when the scale starts to go in the wrong direction.

I think this may very well be the case. We all know how much I love me some carbs, the higher the glycemic index , the more I love them ?. I eat so few meals that don't include a fair amount of carbs, I couldn't tell you if eating dense, moist, chewy, succulent protein alone would trigger my hunger. I mean last night I had wings, but then had a beer, so, yeah, hungry. When I get to a place where I'm gaining, or am just sick of being hungry, I'll definitely test this out. I'm kind of in the ultimate honeymoon period right now, so I'm just going to enjoy my carbfest while I can. I actually may need to start adding in some more fats, because I hit my all time low, my ticker weight, again this morning. Good news is I have a metric ton of macadamia nuts in the house right now from my recent trip to the Aloha state. Interesting how we are all so different. One thing I can say for certain is I have no hunger response to artificial sweeteners. I have been a long time diet soda, addict, I guess. I only gave it up for a short while post op. (Did you know a Double Gulp is 64 oz? ?) So I was drinking diet soda during times when I had no hunger, and it was my fluid I'd drink to stave off hunger when I was doing IF.

What about moist? ?

If gas is a concern, take Beano with your beans, works amazingly well.

Ohhh ... good topic, slider foods. I have no real slider foods, that I have found. I don't eat yogurt, but if I eat soup or ice cream/frozen yogurt, I still feel full/feel my restriction. If it's a fairly thin soup, I can consume about 2 cups, maybe? Solid foods, nothing slides, crackers, pasta, chips, about an ounce or two in, I can feel my restriction. BUT, now days my stomach empties fast. It doesn't seem to matter if it is dense protein, or carby stuff. It's gone out of my stomach usually in less than an hour, sometimes far less. Since I've stopped doing IF, I've been a lot hungrier. Like if my stomach is empty, then I'm hungry. Normally this would scare the crap out of me, the fact that I feel satiated for such a short amount of time. I'm good for right now, as I'm trying to put the breaks on my weight loss. But I'm hopeful that if the future when I stabilize I can utilize IF, because IME, it greatly reduces my hunger.

@SteveT74 I think you are making a lot of assumptions here, based on your own experience. There are a lot of different paths to success after WLS. @ms.sss is under care by both her surgeon and a nutritionist, and they are both satisfied And as anecdotal evidence, I was very low cal during my weight loss, many days very similar to what @ms.sss describes. I did not wreck my metabolism. I got under goal weight without intending to. I am now averaging over 1500 cals a day, and still struggling to not continue to lose. (Btw 1500 cals avg is basically eating all day, since I have a lot of restriction) Now will I be a "long term success"? I hope so, but I can't know for certain, just as you can't. We are all so different. I would never assume that someone on a different, but medically supervised plan, is going to be unsuccessful.