pixie_lilly

I can't see how you can blame a product (i.e. evil contraption) when it sounds like it was medical malpractice on your doctor's part. You can have a IUD put in wrong or any product and if the doctor makes error, you can't blame the product.
P.S. If you really did your research like you said, um.... you would have known that the lapband doesn't work with liquids. lol That's pretty basic stuff that you didn't know from your research. (Your quote "Third major problem: (was not told this ahead of time either) weight gain is guaranteed if you DRINK liquids with your meals")

Eating cake shouldn't be a problem, as long as we don't over do it, this is not a diet:)

Ok, I am enjoying the same meal I had last night but....
1. I thinned it down a bit.
2. I only have my correct amount in the building.
3. I am eating very slowly, putting the spoon down and doing something else for a while between bites.
4. I am Thinking about the food while it is in my mouth, savoring the flavors and textures.
5. I am listening for the voice of Mistress Band.
Thank you Mistress Band for letting me enjoy my lunch, I will be good

You know, another thing...I wonder if it's possibly you were banded with a shiny black patent leather band instead of the usual white silicon one?

Ok I'm sorry you had to learn that lesson the hard way... but oh my gosh...I just laughed so hard I snorted at your post!!!!
"Mistress Band, the Dominatrix"!! ROFLMAO!!!!

OMG, OMG too much and too fast
OMG, OMG too much and too fast
OMG, OMG too much and too fast
OMG, OMG too much and too fast
The creature from the movie alien is currently trying escape from my chest.
I was hungry, and it tasted really, really good. I portioned out my 1/2 cup, that 1/2 cup disappeared like magic and tasted so good, another 1/4 cup won't hurt, after all I ate a full cup of thin Soup over 30 minutes at work today. it doesn't really matter that this only took me 10 minutes and was much thicker.
Then the band spoke, and I didn't listen, so the band spoke louder and I still did not heed it's words. SO THE BAND SHOUTED and the alien creature started to try to claw it's way out of my chest.
Well, after about 30 minutes, the band called off it's minion and it feels I was going to live. But of course the head hunger has started to kick in and mention that I really deserve a treat after going through that
I think I am going to name my band "Mistress Band, the Dominatrix"

Wow.. This is exactly why I left this forum for another. I thought I'd give it another try and see if it had calmed down and this is the 1st post I read?!
Saying something like eating less calories and staying away from sliders etc works and that's what I believe just sounds silly! Of course it works but we were all big for a reason, because we had no self control over food, messed up head/huge appetite, whatever the reason. That does not change over night for most people, well researched or not. It is not quite as simple as 'here are the rules follow them' and everyone will be able to straight away. Sometimes people need a shake up and to be told but I really don't think your thread was the right way to do that, just look at the reaction it provoked. It didn't benefit anyone.
You can't just say 'no offence intended or didn't you read that'. I nearly laughed! You did mean to offend with your judgemental wording. You may get frustrated with people that lie and cheat themselves but that's just it, they are cheating themselves and are obviously doing it because they can't mentally get their head through it all. I didn't change my thinking over night. If my food addictions were milkshakes then I would probably find it a lot harder than I have.
I stalled for six weeks! Despite changing things around, increasing my Water take etc my weight stayed the same to the point. If I had read your post at that point I would have been very upset. Instead, I was given patience, understanding and support. Lots of people relaxed and gained over Christmas but we've all moved on and lost that and more. I doubt I could have admitted that here.
If you are doing well, yes give advice and let people know how you are doing it but at least try to fake a bit if empathy whilst you are doing it to those that are struggling to live with a band.
As others have said, yes it is annoying when threads are posted minutes next to each other but I'm sure you can ignore them if people are getting the responses and attention that they need.

Wow.. This is exactly why I left this forum for another. I thought I'd give it another try and see if it had calmed down and this is the 1st post I read?!
Saying something like eating less calories and staying away from sliders etc works and that's what I believe just sounds silly! Of course it works but we were all big for a reason, because we had no self control over food, messed up head/huge appetite, whatever the reason. That does not change over night for most people, well researched or not. It is not quite as simple as 'here are the rules follow them' and everyone will be able to straight away. Sometimes people need a shake up and to be told but I really don't think your thread was the right way to do that, just look at the reaction it provoked. It didn't benefit anyone.
You can't just say 'no offence intended or didn't you read that'. I nearly laughed! You did mean to offend with your judgemental wording. You may get frustrated with people that lie and cheat themselves but that's just it, they are cheating themselves and are obviously doing it because they can't mentally get their head through it all. I didn't change my thinking over night. If my food addictions were milkshakes then I would probably find it a lot harder than I have.
I stalled for six weeks! Despite changing things around, increasing my Water take etc my weight stayed the same to the point. If I had read your post at that point I would have been very upset. Instead, I was given patience, understanding and support. Lots of people relaxed and gained over Christmas but we've all moved on and lost that and more. I doubt I could have admitted that here.
If you are doing well, yes give advice and let people know how you are doing it but at least try to fake a bit if empathy whilst you are doing it to those that are struggling to live with a band.
As others have said, yes it is annoying when threads are posted minutes next to each other but I'm sure you can ignore them if people are getting the responses and attention that they need.

Twinskins...when I went "off the wagon" I too could eat everything I did before! The reason I could do this was because I wasn't following the rules. Are you making sure you dont drink 30 minutes before and after meals? Do you eat very small bites, and eat very slowly? Did you go back to the liquid or mushy stage for a few days after your fill? I regrouped myself and went on the 5 day pouch test after being banded for 6 years. I started following the rules and without a fill I started feeling restriction again. It sounds like you may be doing what a lot of new bandster do. They test the band! Do not give up! Your only a failure if you quit trying! Please give the band a chance by working with it, not against it! Get as much knowledge you can from this site. You will see a lot of people started feeling exactly the same way as you and are now success stories!

I just wanted to weigh in here. I agree with everyone having to do the work and eat the right things but I have seen people lose super quick and I have seen people lose very slow sometimes not till after the first fill. I do think that some of you who have a really good journey become a little insensitive to people who are having more of a struggle and could use some support. I little empathy would be nice sometimes. I am in no way saying you should sugarcoat everything. Everyone is different and we all have different struggles.just be aware.

Sorry, I don't think you did mean this to sound lecturing, but maybe you need to look at the fact that to others, it just may?
Especially since you are relatively new to this as well, and you seem to be intimating that you have a lot of experience and that we need to listen to you and stop asking the same damn questions over and over.
When I was young, my older sister was a skinny person. A naturally slender, blonde, fit, skinny person. Who ate more than me. Not sure why we metabolized food differently, but she was built like the women on my Dads side of the family -- I hit the genetic jackpot and followed the big aunties. So aside from calories in, calories out, there are many many reasons people gain or lose at different rates. This has been explained to me over and over again, by doctors, by dietiticians, by nutritionists, by my WL surgeon. We are all different, and no one size fits all approach will work for everyone.
When I was at my fattest, the skinny girls (my "friends") would say things like: "oh you have such a pretty face, you would be GORGEOUS if you lost some weight". Ouch. They would tell me this while sucking on a milkshake or nibbling on fries, while I mentally counted calories and decided whether or not I should sneak off and try to puke up my half a sandwich. Then they would, very nicely, explain to me that all I have to do is eat less. That if I really tried, I could stick to a diet and become pretty and thin like them. That if I really wanted it, it would be easy and SO rewarding. They meant well (maybe), but every word felt like an arrow piercing my too fat body.
Sometimes, when I am here I feel like I am back in grade nine. Like I am being told I am fat and stupid, and if I would just listen to the skinny people, the ones who have it all figured out, I could make proper use of my lap band and be skinny just like them! I feel like I am being told that I must not want it bad enough. Same arrows, different table.
I joined here thinking it would be a nice place to come and chat, get support, ask questions. But after a good start, I stopped doing much more than lurking, because I don't feel it's a very welcoming place for a newby. I am an adult, I don't need all caps lectures, or information repeated ad nauseum like I am too dense to hear it the first time. Sometimes, I just wanted to chat.
My two cents.

All anyone should do on this forum is speak and share their personal experiences...GOOD AND BAD.......I learn from both!
I may say things that others do not agree with....but hey, I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true for me from my experience...what I have found to work, and not work, for me.......and that's all we should expect from each other......and let the reader decide....
My respect for other people is not exactly based on what someone says, but how they say it.....if they start their discussion with " This is what I have experienced" or even a simple " This is what my Dr. told me to do", my respect for that person increases 100%. Does not matter if I agree or not because their statements carry some authority
But there are people who will tell everyone what they should be doing, and condem people for what they are doing.....you look at their profiles and wonder where is this coming from? They could not possibly be there themselves to know so much about it.
I also have stayed away for a while....I have also learned to simply block certain people....don't know if they can readmy posts, but I certainly cannot read theirs....
Ad I am sure there are people who have me blocked.....no big thing.
But I will ALWAYS say what I have found to be my first hand experience wit,h this WLS, take it or leave it, but I have proof it is true, in my case anyway.

Kinda hard to ignore when it's the same catty people on every thread, every day. How about u ignore the repetitive questions that annoy you instead?
I have numerous questions I'd like to ask but I rarely do, because I sit there and think, "who's gonna criticize this?" And now apparently I have to also think "has this question been asked before?".
Here's a heads up from miss Cleo on da free psychic line.... Dem people be askin yuh dos questions again tomorrow child.
This is a Lapband forum and the questions will always be, what can I eat post op, how come I can eat more than a cup, how do I get rid of gas pains, is anyone else constipated, can I drink pop,etc......if this bothers you, you're on the wrong forum

Wow! Good for you!!! I also got banded yesterday and feel like I was hit by a bus from the waist up ! Grrrrr.... Head, shoulder, back ache and port area also pain in my chest where breathing tube was...and I'm usually a tough cookie! I'm feeling better as time passes and no problems with liquids or gas:)

WOW you are just so angry..... that has got to becoming from a lot of pain. I feel so bad you have had to go through this but this karma stuff and wishing you could be there when their bands fail WOW. People speak from their own experience and it looks like yours just sucks but she didn't make your band so why be so angry at her.
I hope you feel better and justified but you are just venting a lot of stuff that is just not necessary. You're attempt to educate us was lost in your tirade. I suggest everyone just drop it attacking someone is not helping your bad experience and it is time to just let it go hope everyone feels vindicated I feel a little sick. And to be honest I don't think anyone that differed with you could ever be your friend.

I found it really helpful as well but maybe I'm in a different place at the moment and another time I would have felt differently. Not everyone is there to say there there and give soft advice and comfort, there are people further along the journey than we are and it's good to listen to them as well. The post came from a good, helpful place and you may have been upset by it but from the outside your response was way harsher.

That response was meant to give you the courage to stand up and say, NO MORE stuffing myself! I am almost 4 years banded and you know what, I still have days that I think OMG what have I done to me!! I love being a size 10-12 and on no meds and feeling great, and normally I stroll along this path okay choosing what is good for me. But I do CHEAT on a cookie or piece of pie or something forbidden by our normal routine. This is how I stay focused by not ever saying that I can never have anything sweet.

I feel a lot of those who were banded and lost forget where they began. Some post seem to be so disheartening when it comes to beginners. We are supposed to support one another. Not judge them and make snide remarks about things they may not be doing correctly. Remember the fat person who was constantly judged by others before you place judgement on people.

Just stay intouch with your nutritionist. Don't listen to everything you hear. If you have your husbands support, then you have the best support there is. I don't believe that your losing weight will cause you to divorce, because if your husband is on board with this and you have no ideas about leaving him, then i believe that your losing weight will make your relationship stronger.
Whenever we try to better ourselves, satan always devises a plan to plant doubt in our minds that cause us to think the worse. I know that some of the things you heard frighten you but don't let that stop you from doing something that will help you make yourself potentially better.
Call on your Father and ask Him to help you discern fact from fiction and to give you the courage to do what's best for you according to His will and His plan for your life.
I wish you the best.

Wow! I haven't had that since the first few years of secondary school!! Must be a good breeze!

Well maybe I pick the wrong word "appointed" but the true results that I go to they only have two surgeons and when they started with my paper work for my 6 month nutrition visits his name was in the surgeon box and that he would perform it in April. I had already read upon him&the other one & I did want him verses the other one,I felt by what I had read he had a lil more experience to me and wanted to know if someone new more than I did.

hi he is really good when you go for the fills everyone sits in the waiting room in manchester and chats about there band. Everyone is really pleased with how chris treats then, he is very intelligent you can tell when you talk to him, not known anyone complain everything about there trip to brussels.
You only have to do the x ray once a year I don't think the cost is too bad other companies are charging a lot more for there aftercare packages at least you only have to give the money every now and again whenever you go and not another lump sum.

While I was still in active private practice, I was working with a couple who had numerous issues...and the decision of the husband to move forward with band surgery without the wife's "blessing" actually ended up causing the couple to divorce. Let me stress the point though...they had other significant issues.
The reality is that when you live with someone, and are in a committed relationship, they will discover the truth whether or not you want to "keep it a secret". It could also end up causing some additional issues further down the road. You will also need someone who will be able to drive you to and from surgery...and how would you explain your incisions?
My husband is extremely supportive of my choice to regain some of my health, but has also shared that he hates the diet I need to follow now. It's been a major adjustment for both of us.
Try to consider how you would feel if your wife kept something this important and life altering a "secret" from you? What does that say about the component of trust which is supposed to be in a marriage?
I think it's important to have your wife be a part of your journey...do your best to have her get involved with your pre op journey, and help her learn more about why you want this confidentiality and would like to have her emotional support.
It's your choice, however the likelihood of you successfully keeping this a secret from her is unrealistic. Keeping secrets in a relationship is not a healthy relationship dynamic.
Best wishes...