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This is so hard for me I haven't had a meal, but I have still been taking bites of food when feeding my son. My hudband had bk chicken sandwhich yesterday and I took two bites and boy was it so so good. I have my surgery on wed the 14th friday I checked the scale and I lost 10 pounds so far. I will check tomorrow to see how much more I have lost.

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Hello neesh

sorry, I don't want to sound cruel or harsh, but I really think you need to consider this surgery in more depth. The band is just a tool, it will NOT tell you what to put into your mouth - YOU will need to decide what to eat and what not to. If you have some daemons that are hurting you and preventing you from being able to stick to your doctor prescribed diet, then I really think you need to work on getting rid of those ASAP. I have done a LOT of research on the band. I am a statistician, so looking at the numbers was very important to me. And from all of the research I found, people who cheat during the pre-op having a much lower success rate (not that it will not work, but it will be harder), plus those who cheat in the post-op liquid diet have a DOUBLE chance of complications. I don't want to discourage you at all! I think the band is a wonderful tool, but I really want you to be sure that this is what will help you the best, and that you will have the strength (or at least the support required) to be successful once you are banded.

Best wishes to you. Take care ~

Tim

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Right I understand the band is a tool, but right now I have no band and on a liquid only pre op diet. While having the band I will not only have to eat/drink liquid so I feel your statement is not correct. When u have the band U can eat food pre op no food basically starving so I don't feel that just beacuase a person can't get through the pre op they won't succeed with the band.

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so I don't feel that just beacuase a person can't get through the pre op they won't succeed with the band.

I have to agree with you, Neesh. If it makes you feel any better, my doctor agrees with you as well. :sad:

That said, I don't know your medical history or why your doctor is making you do a preop liquid fast. There may be a real reason...or it may be just bureaucratic B.S. I'd ask him/her.

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Right I have no medical conditions I mean I do weight 340 as I just lost 10 lbs I have high blood pressure that's about it. I think they are just following what the clinics beariatric team does with all patients. A friend of mine goes to the same clinic she is smaller then me and had to do the liwuid diet for 10 days as well. I see on here some dr dont require it at all some do and some have very different diets to follow I don't understand. My dr says it's to shrink the liver so that it won't be in the way of the stomach while putting on the band.

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Well, Neesh, there IS full liquid post-op. So if you cheat pre-op you may only (only??) wake up to find your banding has been postponed. Post-op, if you cheat with solid food you more than souble your chances of your band slipping. Almost all of us had to do a pre-op diet. I was lucky in that mine wasn't all liquid, but I did exactly what my doc said, including drinking 2 nasty whey Protein shakes a day that tasted like crap no matter what I did to them.

I was never told my pre-op diet was to lose weight. It was to shrink my liver to give the doc more room to work in. So get your head in the right place and do it fast!

Good luck

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This is going to sound mean, but, frankly, i don't care.

You need to get your act together, suck it up, and stop the cheating. Cheating is cheating. If you really want this surgery, you will work your hardest to follow what your SURGEON has told you to do. You are going to feel really stupid when you go in for surgery feeling all happy you are getting a band then wake up with no band. The purpose of the pre-op diet is to shrink your liver and to make it less fatty.

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I don't think two bites here and there are going to derail your surgery. I have read on here many people who have cheated on the pre-op and were not crucified by others. I think you will do fine. I was not required to do the pre-op liquid diet, just liquids the day before surg. I was 333 lbs on surgery day and now 10 1/2 months later down 110 lbs all post op. Don't let them set you up for failure. You can do it and I believe in you. Good luck

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Thanks for the encouragement ok813 I needed that because right now I don't wanna hear anyone trying to be mean. I am not in the mood for all that yes I read here some people that has cheated with big meals the day before surgery and still got banded. So I will just go along and hope for the best wed. Thank you.

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You can not want to hear the truth all you want, but it's not going to make it go away! I have to agree with ParrotheadCathy and ccweeks - the pre-op diet is a lot more than just a simple liquid diet. There are many factors at play here. Your surgeon wants your liver to be as small as possible to make the surgery as SAFE as possible. Being on a liquid diet also helps clean out your stomach so that no food is "stuck" there when you get the band. And lastly, it's actually a TEST to see how well you can stick to a liquid diet. TWO bites of solid food during your post-op diet CAN lead to slippage, erosion, and potentially removal of the band, conversion to bypass, or sever internal bleeding. Like I said, I do NOT want to be waying you to not get the band - I would recommend the band to anyone. BUT, you need to be in the right place mentally first. I care, and if your surgeon is a good surgeon who actually cares about your health instead of the money, he too should care, that not only are you cheating, but you are posting online to the world that you are cheating, hopign to hear that "it's ok". You obviously have aguilty mindset for cheating - so I know that you know it's wrong. You just need to realize that THIS IS SURGERY! and that you can have severe consequences if you are not fully ready to get banded!

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Yes I do feel guilty that I cheated, but AGAIN right now it's hard cuz I don't have a band and not eating for 10 days is hard. Ok timmmers since you know so much then tell me how the people that didn't have a pre op diet and the people that did cheat get the band.

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well, neesh, if you actually look at what I said, never did I write that you won't get a band! Nor did I say that you won't be successful, nor did I say that people who cheat are not successful!!! In fact, I actually said that people who do cheat ARE still successful. (look at my original post) The only thing I have said is that it will be HARDER for you, and that you CHANCE of having complications will increase. The only reason I responded to your original post was because I am concerned for your well being, and I wanted to say that I highly recommend that BEFORE you get the band, that you really work hard on figuring out why you overeat, why you are not able to stay on a liquid diet for only ten days (by the way, some people are asked to go onto liquid diets for 4 weeks, or sometimes even 6 weeks!), and why you have the urge to get other people to say "it's ok that you're cheating"? Because from my research, the people who figure this stuff out are MORE successful. Let me repeat, to make sure you understand what I am saying... I am not saying that you shouldn't get the band. I'm only saying that I recommend you work on these, what I call, "daemons of eating" before getting the band.

Trust me, the liquid diet was HARD for me. A few times on my way home from work I was so hungry that I would *scream* in my car to let out the frustration. Being able to do the liquid diet had changed me...once I got the band I had a totally different mentality. I knew, deep down in my soul, that I could do this! That I had conquered my body's demand for food even when it didn't need it. And that really helped in my first week where all I could drink was clear fluids (not even just fluids, but only clear fluids!) and now that I can finally eat real food (though still only mushy food) I don't have that overwhelming feeling to eat.

I am not trying to make you feel like you have failed or that you do not deserve this. I 100% think that you deserve to get healthy and if that means getting the band, then to get the band. I want you, and all bandsters, to be successful!

Cheers ~

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