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I don't know why people do it. Murder is a horrible thing. Makes me sad how often someone is murdered in this world.

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You want to die then fine, kill yourself.

Wow. As someone who has recovered from trying to commit suicide (been "clean" for three months) that comment really hurts. This man obviously had issues that were not addressed before he went on his rampage. I don't want to sound mean, but did his family ever commit him or brought up the fact he needs help? They may have not but , I can see why he did it (I wouldn't do this and I'm not saying what he did was right. But I can see where that desperation might lead to). Losing a job piles on so much depression, especially if you're a guy, because of wanting to be the bread winner (this is my opinion).

You really shouldn't say to people: "Hey,you want die? Fine, I don't care." because if someone told me that three months ago, I wouldn't be here. Depression can do really stupid things to peoples' minds.

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Sorry if I hurt your feelings, that was not my intent. I have suffered from depression also and during some of my rougher times contemplated the same thing. But never as low as I have ever felt have I thought it was okay to take someone down with me. I think that murdering your family or anyone for that matter and then committing suicide is a cowardly act. Perhaps I should have chosen a better way of wording it and maybe I should find a better way to word this, but frankly it is just how I feel.

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Yeah, I don't mean to belittle anybody's struggles with depression. But I will say, the more I deal with people, the more I realize how crazy some people really are.

Not PC I know, but I have come across some real "doozies".

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I try not to take lots of things said on here to heart. Most of the time it's just people wording things wrong the way it comes out of their heads. I didn't even notice how she said that earlier but I wouldn't have let it get to me. I can understand how it could though. Almost everyone on this site has probably been in the same boat with the suicide thing. I know used to be many many times several years ago. Anyway I am rambling and forgot what I was saying LOL

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Sorry if I hurt your feelings, that was not my intent. I have suffered from depression also and during some of my rougher times contemplated the same thing. But never as low as I have ever felt have I thought it was okay to take someone down with me. I think that murdering your family or anyone for that matter and then committing suicide is a cowardly act. Perhaps I should have chosen a better way of wording it and maybe I should find a better way to word this, but frankly it is just how I feel.

:laugh:It's all good. You really didn't need to apologize, because that is what I thought. You didn't hurt my feelings; I just expressed my opinion. Also as Froggi said that it's hard to communicate "how" to say something. I should be the one to say sorry to you because I didn't mean for it to become PC all of a sudden.

So don't feel bad because I'm the one who should of worded what I needed to say differently. So don't worry about it! :eek:

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