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I thought I would throw this out there in case it might help anyone else. I had an endoscopy this week which among other things, indicates Eosinophilic Esophagitis (EoE). which will be confirmed with biopsy results. EoE is basically an allergic response that changes the lining of the esophagus and can result in scarring and permanent damage. food allergy is the most likely culprit in most cases. This tissue change had never been noted on any previous endos - just this one which was 10 months post op, which makes me think that it must be something in my diet that was added since surgery. My doc mentioned that whey can do this in some people, and Whey Protein is the ONLY thing that is different and has been added since surgery, and we all know how much we rely on the Protein Shakes and Protein Powder to get our requirements in. So I have switched to plant based protein powders now. I had cut out dairy products several weeks ago, to work toward more plant based eating, but was trying to finish up the whey protein powder, just because it is expensive and didn't want to waste it.

Well, the surprising result is (gets graphic, so those with weak stomachs)........my bowels have completely changed. While many of you are constipated, I have been struggling with light colored, loose, frothy stools, up to 8 times a day and coming with urgency that made me carry an emergency "clean up" kit. A also had a lot of malodorous gas that was socially embarrassing. Since stopping the whey, my stools are NORMAL! Normal color, normal firmness, and only 1-2 times a day. Gas is now minimal. This is wonderful! I did not realize how much the loose frequency was affecting my quality of life, especially with outdoor exercising, running errands, and work. So much better now!

Sooo........ if anyone else has the stool symptoms I have experienced, try cutting out the whey and maybe all dairy for a week and see what happens.

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Wow hon!!! I'm so glad you have it figured out!!! That's amazing on the throne results. Great for you!!!! Glad you found a new Protein Powder that works for you!!

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It is very common for us to no longer tolerate whey. My nutritionist had me use plant based Protein starting with the pre op diet and to also change to almond milk. So glad I did.

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I love unsweetened cashew milk, too! :D

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24 minutes ago, Deblearn said:

It is very common for us to no longer tolerate whey. My nutritionist had me use plant based Protein starting with the pre op diet and to also change to almond milk. So glad I did.

Wow. Who knew? And all of us depend on those Protein shakes/powder for a long time.

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2 minutes ago, AZhiker said:

Wow. Who knew? And all of us depend on those Protein shakes/powder for a long time.

My doc says that often, it's only a brief window of intolerance and that it can go away the further you are out from surgery?

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I am presently using organic soy milk, as it has a lot more Protein than almond or cashew milk. Soy products (milk, yogurt, tofu, tempeh) do not seem to bother me.

Which plant based protein powders have you found to be palatable in smoothies and yogurt? I've tried several, but all have stevia. OWYN brand has cane sugar, but seems to be the most pure of all of them, but I haven't tried it yet.

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Just now, FluffyChix said:

My doc says that often, it's only a brief window of intolerance and that it can go away the further you are out from surgery?

In my case, it appears to have triggered the esosinophilic esophagitis, so if the whey is indeed the culprit, avoiding it is a no brainer for me. :(

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6 hours ago, AZhiker said:

I am presently using organic soy milk, as it has a lot more Protein than almond or cashew milk. Soy products (milk, yogurt, tofu, tempeh) do not seem to bother me.

Which plant based Protein powders have you found to be palatable in smoothies and yogurt? I've tried several, but all have stevia. OWYN brand has cane sugar, but seems to be the most pure of all of them, but I haven't tried it yet.

Is Stevia not good for us ? I was told it was one of the ‘better sweetners’ So I sometimes use it. Is there a better alternative does anyone know?

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9 hours ago, AZhiker said:

I am presently using organic soy milk, as it has a lot more Protein than almond or cashew milk. Soy products (milk, yogurt, tofu, tempeh) do not seem to bother me.

Which plant based Protein powders have you found to be palatable in smoothies and yogurt? I've tried several, but all have stevia. OWYN brand has cane sugar, but seems to be the most pure of all of them, but I haven't tried it yet.

AZhiker, have you tried plain unsweetened Ripple milk made from pea protein? 1 cup/240ml = 70kcal, 8g protein, 0 carbs, plus Iron, vit d, and dha Omega 3's. It makes nice thick smoothies, but is delicious on its own over ice (or try it with a few drops of pure vanilla or other natural extract mixed in to switch up the flavour profile).

As for Protein Powder, you might want to try the plain unsweetened pea protein powder, or one of the plant protein blends, from Canadian Protein (canadianprotein dot com). They've sustained me well since my VSG on Oct 15 - my labs are perfect.

I've been WFPB for 7 years, and it's the best thing I've ever done for my physical health and mental well-being; at least as beneficial as my surgery and perhaps moreso in other ways. There are less than a handful of people on these boards that I follow, but I've very much enjoyed reading about all of your experiences and experiments here, and am excited about the continued benefits you'll reap with a WFPB lifestyle. All the very best you!

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I like to stay away from it for 3 reasons - 1) it is a processed product which I am avoiding, 2) the brain can interpret any kind of sweetener as caloric intake and cause increases in insulin, and 3) I m trying to retrain my taste buds. A few raisins or some banana add quite enough sweetening for me and I don't want sugar cravings to start up. I do have some dark chocolate once in a while, but it is a treat in its own right - not a sweetener for something else.

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2 minutes ago, PollyEster said:

AZhiker, have you tried plain unsweetened Ripple milk made from pea Protein? 1 cup/240ml = 70kcal, 8g protein, 0 carbs, plus Iron, vit d, and dha Omega 3's. It makes nice thick smoothies, but is delicious on its own over ice (or try it with a few drops of pure vanilla or other natural extract mixed in to switch up the flavour profile).

As for Protein Powder, you might want to try the plain unsweetened pea protein powder, or one of the plant protein blends, from Canadian Protein (canadianprotein dot com). They've sustained me well since my VSG on Oct 15 - my labs are perfect.

I've been WFPB for 7 years, and it's the best thing I've ever done for my physical health and metal well-being; at least as beneficial as my surgery and perhaps moreso in other ways. There are less than a handful of people on these boards that I follow, but I've very much enjoyed reading about all of your experiences and experiments here, and am excited about the continued benefits you'll reap with a WFPB lifestyle. All the very best you!

I will definitely look up these products. Thank you so much for the suggestions. My question to you now, is how would you propose I eat enough to get the volume required for WFPB? My volume is still so restricted, that to eat even a "small" Budda bowl salad takes literally hours. I have broken up the components - eating the grains and legumes separately as Snacks between meals. But it seems like I am just eating all the time, which I really don't like, as I fear it could set up the grazing behavior I had before surgery. Getting all the food in on a normal day is hard, and when I exercise, I have to use supplemental bars (plant based, GF) to get the calories in.

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AZhiker, have you tried plain unsweetened Ripple milk made from pea Protein? 1 cup/240ml = 70kcal, 8g protein, 0 carbs, plus Iron, vit d, and dha Omega 3's. It makes nice thick smoothies, but is delicious on its own over ice (or try it with a few drops of pure vanilla or other natural extract mixed in to switch up the flavour profile).
As for Protein Powder, you might want to try the plain unsweetened pea protein powder, or one of the plant protein blends, from Canadian Protein (canadianprotein dot com). They've sustained me well since my VSG on Oct 15 - my labs are perfect.
I've been WFPB for 7 years, and it's the best thing I've ever done for my physical health and mental well-being; at least as beneficial as my surgery and perhaps moreso in other ways. There are less than a handful of people on these boards that I follow, but I've very much enjoyed reading about all of your experiences and experiments here, and am excited about the continued benefits you'll reap with a WFPB lifestyle. All the very best you!
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