Diet after Sleeve (fear of my own sabotage)

[stefanie0804 36]

As I'm sure many of you have all done before being sleeved i've watched every video, read every forum and talked to as many people as possible. I finally have an orientation day Nov 30th, 2016 though the Ontario Netwrok which means i will hopefully be approved and not have to pay, along with having a support network.

Anyways I ask about diet because i was watching a you-tuber last night and she was talking about how she fell off the wagon, and has gotten back on using weight watchers.

Now I know that the sleeve isn't any miracle, but I've failed at weight watchers, Dr. Bernstein, low carb and may diets before. I'm trying to change my eating habits, but i still make wrong choices, and sometimes I feel so hungry I binge.

Tell me how i wont sabotage this?

[KristenLe 5,980]

@@stefanie0804 The sleeve is just a tool. You need to do the work and eat healthy. It should be easier because the surgery removes most of the hunger hormone and quantity is restricted with the smaller stomach. Head hunger and emotional eating issues need to be addressed because surgery won't help with those. I had therapy to help me with emotional eating. I was never a binge eater but therapy can help with that. Most of us have failed other diets too.

[MarciaN 391]

I joined Weight Watchers about 5 weeks ago- I was so used to the accountability with going for my supervised NUT visits and the first few months after surgery that I started to just "stay the same weight" once my program told me I did not have to come back for 6 months! I feel fantastic and probably could happily live at my current weight---but--- it is not the weight my doctor wanted me to get to and I realized that I need to have someone to whom I am accountable. We need to use every tool in our arsenal to lose and keep the weight off. This can be something different for each person.

[stefanie0804 36]

@@stefanie0804 The sleeve is just a tool. You need to do the work and eat healthy. It should be easier because the surgery removes most of the hunger hormone and quantity is restricted with the smaller stomach. Head hunger and emotional eating issues need to be addressed because surgery won't help with those. I had therapy to help me with emotional eating. I was never a binge eater but therapy can help with that. Most of us have failed other diets too.

then i keep going back to the same question, should i just continue to try and do this on my own with therapy? weight watchers was just a tool for me too and i still screwed that up. I worry im going to make this horrible decision and still screw up. Cuz believe me I want this, and I do very well sometimes loosing up to 15lbs on my own and then it all comes back...

[KristenLe 5,980]

No - it's different. WW didn't restrict portions or remove hunger hormones. You had to do all the work. We screwed up our metabolism doing diets in the past. Surgery is really the only effective treatment to combat severe obesity and maintain weight loss. Only 5% or less of patients who lose on their own keep the weight off. You need to be mentally ready for surgery but it's not comparable to dieting .

[stefanie0804 36]

No - it's different. WW didn't restrict portions or remove hunger hormones. You had to do all the work. We screwed up our metabolism doing diets in the past. Surgery is really the only effective treatment to combat severe obesity and maintain weight loss. Only 5% or less of patients who lose on their own keep the weight off. You need to be mentally ready for surgery but it's not comparable to dieting .

I guess this is the part im trying to wrap my head around...

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[KristenLe 5,980]

There's alot of good info on asmbs.org

[breuxo 78]

in Ontario they won't give you the sleeve unless medically necessary it is always RNY

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[breuxo 78]

just to give you a heads up, I'm from Ontario having RNY next week, it takes anywhere from 8months -1.5years to get approved for surgery in Canada. but it is worth it, they have a great team to help you with everything.

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[Dub 10,070]

As I'm sure many of you have all done before being sleeved i've watched every video, read every forum and talked to as many people as possible. I finally have an orientation day Nov 30th, 2016 though the Ontario Netwrok which means i will hopefully be approved and not have to pay, along with having a support network.

Anyways I ask about diet because i was watching a you-tuber last night and she was talking about how she fell off the wagon, and has gotten back on using weight watchers.

Now I know that the sleeve isn't any miracle, but I've failed at weight watchers, Dr. Bernstein, low carb and may diets before. I'm trying to change my eating habits, but i still make wrong choices, and sometimes I feel so hungry I binge.

Tell me how i wont sabotage this?

If you want to sit around and eat candy, sweets and trash foods......the sleeve will not stop you.

You can easily find ways to eat "around" your sleeve.

The way to not sabotage this is to demonstrate resolve and apply discipline. If you are in a place where you truly want to lose the weight then you will follow the plan. If you are not.....then you won't.

Sorry if this is harsh......but it's the truth.

You have to have your priorities in order for the sleeve to work.....and to continue working.

[stefanie0804 36]

So maybe the sleeve is no diffrent then any other diet.

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[stefanie0804 36]

just to give you a heads up, I'm from Ontario having RNY next week, it takes anywhere from 8months -1.5years to get approved for surgery in Canada. but it is worth it, they have a great team to help you with everything.

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They talk about the sleeve on the website, i wonder why they dont do it. Whats the differences?

[stefanie0804 36]

As I'm sure many of you have all done before being sleeved i've watched every video, read every forum and talked to as many people as possible. I finally have an orientation day Nov 30th, 2016 though the Ontario Netwrok which means i will hopefully be approved and not have to pay, along with having a support network.

Anyways I ask about diet because i was watching a you-tuber last night and she was talking about how she fell off the wagon, and has gotten back on using weight watchers.

Now I know that the sleeve isn't any miracle, but I've failed at weight watchers, Dr. Bernstein, low carb and may diets before. I'm trying to change my eating habits, but i still make wrong choices, and sometimes I feel so hungry I binge.

Tell me how i wont sabotage this?

If you want to sit around and eat candy, sweets and trash foods......the sleeve will not stop you.

You can easily find ways to eat "around" your sleeve.

The way to not sabotage this is to demonstrate resolve and apply discipline. If you are in a place where you truly want to lose the weight then you will follow the plan. If you are not.....then you won't.

Sorry if this is harsh......but it's the truth.

You have to have your priorities in order for the sleeve to work.....and to continue working.

I dont mind the harshness, im just trying to understand why i put my self though this, if nothing else has ever worked, is this gonna be a 6 month and then i get so sad i start eatting again... think we've all been there with the diets. IM trying to understand how this will help me

[breuxo 78]

just to give you a heads up, I'm from Ontario having RNY next week, it takes anywhere from 8months -1.5years to get approved for surgery in Canada. but it is worth it, they have a great team to help you with everything.

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They talk about the sleeve on the website, i wonder why they dont do it. Whats the differences?

they do it if you need to take NSAIDs or any other reasons, if they go to do an rny and that cannot be performed they wil do a sleeve. in Ontario the gold standard (that's what they say lol) is RNY

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[stefanie0804 36]

just to give you a heads up, I'm from Ontario having RNY next week, it takes anywhere from 8months -1.5years to get approved for surgery in Canada. but it is worth it, they have a great team to help you with everything.

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They talk about the sleeve on the website, i wonder why they dont do it. Whats the differences?

they do it if you need to take NSAIDs or any other reasons, if they go to do an rny and that cannot be performed they wil do a sleeve. in Ontario the gold standard (that's what they say lol) is RNY

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thats kind of alarming, i guess i learn more at the orientation. all my research has been on the sleeve.