Vets struggling with 5:2.. there may be an alternative !

[Georgia 2,908]

FYI the Fast diet people have a new book coming out... its a 6 week boot camp...

The Fast Beach Diet Plan http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Beach-Diet-Super-Fast-Programme/dp/1780722249/?tag=thfadi-20some of us are thin

Some of us ate thinking about giving it a go... I am currently at maintinance using the 5:2, but would not mind losing another 5 pounds...

I'm in on the bootcamp! When it comes out on Kindle. I also just bought a kindle book called 5:2 mistakes you wish you would have known. Looks like goot info. I'll post anything I think we could use.

[Evolving 973]

I'm in on the bootcamp! When it comes out on Kindle. I also just bought a kindle book called 5:2 mistakes you wish you would have known. Looks like goot info. I'll post anything I think we could use.

cool sounds good!

[coops 1,790]

defo interested in the boot camp version... wanna get my scales moving again as I'm stuck at the moment!

[Georgia 2,908]

From the fast diet website:

Well today is my first day and it’s a fast day! I already do 4:3 most weeks (Mon-Wed-Fri) so will be doing that for the whole 6 weeks. Normally if plans make 4:3 difficult then I just do 5:2 but for the 6 weeks I will sub with a weekend or do back to back in the week. I usually save all my calories for even meal and plan to continue this. (I think I might also do a sep personal diary thread).

Here is a short summary of what I have gleaned so far…….

Mimi describes the FBD as a “short term, souped up strategy for summer” It’s approach is three pronged, based on way to:

- tighten up on fast days

- toughen up on non fast days

- tune in on any day

One of the ways suggested to tighten up on fast days is to try 4:3 but it is not the only suggestion. There is also suggestion to do 2-2 (based on Brad Pilon’s book Eat Stop Eat) which essentially means after a normal lunch on day 1 eat sparingly (or nothing at all) until a late lunch the following day . Extending the fasting window so rather than have say Breakfast at 7am and supper at 7pm missing Breakfast or fasting from supper to supper. And being fastidious about your calorie quota.

On non fast days it is about holding back on indulgences and “superfluous snacks” and treats, cutting alcohol (entirely or reducing), eating less refined foods and cooking at home. Suggestions include following a more Mediterranean diet or even Japanese with more emphasis on healthy cooking (grilling, steaming, raw). Aiming to have meals based more around vegetables and reducing meat intake, being careful about portion sizes etc. There are lots of other great tips – some of which I have already done over the years like eating more mindfully and not having dinner on autopilot.

Then there is emphasis on quality of exercise and the suggestion to introduce 3 High Intensity Training (HIT) to your weekly exercise schedule. They also state it should be 3 max and give lots of suggestions on how to do this. Plus 2 strength training sessions incorporating push ups, lunges etc. on non cardio/HIT days. I suppose if you have Fast Exercise by Michael Moseley you could get the info there.

http://thefastdiet.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/FB-PLANNER.pdf

Book available in US paperback on Amazon. Not on kindle yet.

[gomekast 559]

I think the issue for me is that at 9 months I'm not allowed in the vets forum but a lot of what happening outside of here doesn't help me anymore. There's no where for me to go to for support in that sense. I was hoping there would be a group for "tweeners" like me. That, more than the 5:2 support is probably what I need. I'm 5 lbs from goal (lost some following your suggestions! Yay! Thank you!) and realize I need mental support from vets but Not sure where to get it.

I'm finding this issue too. A forum for those that are between 6-12 months out would be great. I'm finding I am in need of support but don't really fit anywhere besides my surgery month/year forum but that's a dead spot.

I don't come here much anymore because there aren't many that actively will post that are in the tweener stage as Gamergirl said.

[jess9395 5,448]

I third the need for a "tween" group!

[kj44 215]

Im 15 months out and I've been stuck at 162 since Christmas. Im getting very discouraged and depressed like I was before I was sleeved. Im willing to try anything

I'm in the same frame of mind as you are. Been stuck at 186 with only a 6 lb loss since January ! The hungers back with a vengeance and so is that looming feeling of failure. I am grateful for this thread cuz I will check out the more detailed link and give the 5:2 a try. Was also having difficulty finding specifics on it. It helps for me if it's specific. I've been doing things basically on my own. No nut since before surgery and no follow ups with surgeon Since about six months out. Too far from where I live sooo... No trainer or gym membership cuz I can't afford those either. I do have a recumbent bike which I use daily and some five lb weights which I need to use more. Also got the Zumba videos but haven't tried those yet.....I need to...just been talkin myself out if it. Tried when I was at heaviest and guess I'm still doubting I can do it.

[kj44 215]

@@Emilee68 here is the link with lots of info: http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/291240-52-links-and-info/ It's at the top of the vets forum. FYE put that together and made it a sticky should it should be easy to find. Feel free to ask questions on that link and those of us that do 5:2 will try to answer them and support you along the way.

The link for that is no longer there when I clicked on it

[feedyoureye 3,087]

I just tried it and it worked for me... here are the first few links from that page....

Just going to get this rolling. Here is an "official" 5:2 fourm.

Not all links are equal, just some reading if your interested...

This is where I linked to the 5:2 FAQs page:

FAQ: http://www.52fastdie...c.php?f=1&t=246

Home Page: http://www.52fastdie...7ab7bbb545beb71

Intermittent Fasting May Help Those With Diabetes and Cardiovascular Disease, Study Suggests

http://www.scienceda...30426115456.htm

Effect of intermittent fasting on lipid profile and hematological parameters in healthy volunteers in Jordan

http://universalrese...rjeh et al.pdf

The Power of Intermittent Fasting

http://healthdivas.b...nt-fasting.html

some recipes:

http://www.lavendera...e-52-diet.html�

I found a copy of the original 5:2 docu that started this particular movement:

http://leangainsguid...-1-and-fasting/

it is 57 minutes long, take time to watch it, its very interesting.

[Evolving 973]

I just tried it and it worked for me... here are the first few links from that page.... Just going to get this rolling. Here is an "official" 5:2 fourm. Not all links are equal, just some reading if your interested... This is where I linked to the 5:2 FAQs page: FAQ: http://www.52fastdie...c.php?f=1&t=246 Home Page: http://www.52fastdie...7ab7bbb545beb71 Intermittent Fasting May Help Those With Diabetes and Cardiovascular Disease, Study Suggests http://www.scienceda...30426115456.htm Effect of intermittent fasting on lipid profile and hematological parameters in healthy volunteers in Jordan http://universalrese...rjeh et al.pdf The Power of Intermittent Fasting http://healthdivas.b...nt-fasting.html some recipes: http://www.lavendera...e-52-diet.html� I found a copy of the original 5:2 docu that started this particular movement: http://leangainsguid...-1-and-fasting/ it is 57 minutes long, take time to watch it, its very interesting.

Very cool thank you

[feedyoureye 3,087]

Keep in mind that Vets recommend this to those over 12 months who have a loooong stall, regain or just cant get to goal try this... others please just REALLY follow your Docs method until then. That being said, I do think its safe and effective, but for it to work you have to follow it.... long term.... its not even a weight loss plan, its a longevity plan where you can lose weight as a side effect.

[Evolving 973]

Any other vets on mfp.... Preferably vegetarian or vegan sleevers!

You can find me under

stefjuliano

[thesuse2000 698]

feedyoureye - thank you for sharing all these links!!

I'm only a week out from sleeve surgery, but sort of a vet, since I had lapband surgery back in 2008. I'm using this time off from work to learn as much as I can and set myself up for longterm success with the sleeve. This 5:2 method is something I will store away for the future - but I've shared that video with my sister who also has the band and would like to lose more - as well as my parents, who I would love to see benefit from the longevity benefits! So very interesting and cool to learn about the science behind intermittent fasting.

I just tried it and it worked for me... here are the first few links from that page....

Just going to get this rolling. Here is an "official" 5:2 fourm.

Not all links are equal, just some reading if your interested...

This is where I linked to the 5:2 FAQs page:

FAQ: http://www.52fastdie...c.php?f=1&t=246

Home Page: http://www.52fastdie...7ab7bbb545beb71

Intermittent Fasting May Help Those With Diabetes and Cardiovascular Disease, Study Suggests

http://www.scienceda...30426115456.htm

Effect of intermittent fasting on lipid profile and hematological parameters in healthy volunteers in Jordan

http://universalrese...rjeh et al.pdf

The Power of Intermittent Fasting

http://healthdivas.b...nt-fasting.html

some recipes:

http://www.lavendera...e-52-diet.html�

I found a copy of the original 5:2 docu that started this particular movement:

http://leangainsguid...-1-and-fasting/

it is 57 minutes long, take time to watch it, its very interesting.

[feedyoureye 3,087]

feedyoureye - thank you for sharing all these links!!

I'm only a week out from sleeve surgery, but sort of a vet, since I had lapband surgery back in 2008. I'm using this time off from work to learn as much as I can and set myself up for longterm success with the sleeve. This 5:2 method is something I will store away for the future - but I've shared that video with my sister who also has the band and would like to lose more - as well as my parents, who I would love to see benefit from the longevity benefits! So very interesting and cool to learn about the science behind intermittent fasting.

I just tried it and it worked for me... here are the first few links from that page....

Just going to get this rolling. Here is an "official" 5:2 fourm.

Not all links are equal, just some reading if your interested...

This is where I linked to the 5:2 FAQs page:

FAQ: http://www.52fastdie...c.php?f=1&t=246

Home Page: http://www.52fastdie...7ab7bbb545beb71

Intermittent Fasting May Help Those With Diabetes and Cardiovascular Disease, Study Suggests

http://www.scienceda...30426115456.htm

Effect of intermittent fasting on lipid profile and hematological parameters in healthy volunteers in Jordan

http://universalrese...rjeh et al.pdf

The Power of Intermittent Fasting

http://healthdivas.b...nt-fasting.html

some recipes:

http://www.lavendera...e-52-diet.html�

I found a copy of the original 5:2 docu that started this particular movement:

http://leangainsguid...-1-and-fasting/

it is 57 minutes long, take time to watch it, its very interesting.

It has worked very well for me. Hope your family likes it too!