Dumping? (TMI sorry) I gotta know

[Pam Peltz 56]

I just had an episode at work... My bowels just emptied very liquidy with very little warning. I had to come home to shower and change. Is this dumping? Other than slightly queasy no other symptoms. I ate a cookie about 2 hours before. One of those Samoans. And then I had a sucker; small round grape one. Please help!! Gotta know what to do.

[vicki s 146]

IS it your first episode, just wondering why it would take so long...since your surgery was in feb? I am waiting to see too...I ate watermelon and a weight watchers latte bar and nothing so wondering if it can still happen?

[countrygirl 84]

I just had an episode at work... My bowels just emptied very liquidy with very little warning. I had to come home to shower and change. Is this dumping? Other than slightly queasy no other symptoms. I ate a cookie about 2 hours before. One of those Samoans. And then I had a sucker; small round grape one. Please help!! Gotta know what to do.

Tha ts a lot of sugar plus chocolate on that cookie plus a sucker , not good on tummy. Good luck.

[DLCoggin 1,788]

Diarrhea is one of a fairly long list of symptoms associated with dumping. Diarrhea occurs when foods high in sugar "dump" too quickly from the pouch into the small intestine. Sugar, especially refined sugar, draws Water very quickly from the bloodstream into the small intestine and diarrhea (sometimes severe) is the result.

"Early" dumping normally occurs 15 to 30 minutes after eating. "Late" dumping usually occurs two to three hours after eating but can occur as much as twelve hours later. You can read more by doing a search for "Dumping the Confusion About Dumping".

[califmomto4 84]

Sounds like dumping. My surgery was in April and I haven't experienced it yet but your story is what scared me. Just no warning! Also why I'm too afraid yo eat anything with sugar!

[Rabear 15]

I had a episode like that it happened hrs after I ate. My MD says if its dumping it would happen with in min of eating it.

[DLCoggin 1,788]

I had a episode like that it happened hrs after I ate. My MD says if its dumping it would happen with in min of eating it.

I am absolutely not a doctor but I have experienced late dumping several times. Twice after eating white rice, once from eating a baked potato (both simple carbs) and in all cases about two to three hours following eating. Late dumping is usually the result of reactive hypoglycemia. The first time I had it I checked my blood sugar and it was 37. The majority of folks (about two-thirds) who experience dumping experience early dumping. The remaining one-third experience late dumping. And it's important to remember that many never experience dumping at all.

Here are a couple of links, one from WebMD and the second one from the University of Rochester Medical Center describing dumping (including late dumping). There are many more.

http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/dumping-syndrome-causes-foods-treatments

http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=134&ContentID=107

[SoccerMomma73 1,867]

I am absolutely not a doctor but I have experienced late dumping several times. Twice after eating white rice' date=' once from eating a baked potato (both simple carbs) and in all cases about two to three hours following eating. Late dumping is usually the result of reactive hypoglycemia. The first time I had it I checked my blood sugar and it was 37.

Here are a couple of links, one from WebMD and the second one from the University of Rochester Medical Center describing late dumping.

http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/dumping-syndrome-causes-foods-treatments

http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=134&ContentID=107[/quote']

Ditto what the RNY Talk brain said above.....I typically dump rather quickly, within 20-30 minutes of eating...but the late dumping got me once, and my mother is always 2-3 hours after eating.....not saying your doc is wrong but my surgeon and personal experience disagree.

HW 312, pre-op (RNY) 255, current weight 199

[Pam Peltz 56]

I've been very careful about sugar and have been pushing the limit recently because I thought I was going to be one of those rare ones who don't dump. Guess ill watch it more carefully now. That was so embarrassing. I have my 6 month post op on Tuesday so I will discuss it then. Thanks all for the input.

[califmomto4 84]

I've been very careful about sugar and have been pushing the limit recently because I thought I was going to be one of those rare ones who don't dump. Guess ill watch it more carefully now. That was so embarrassing. I have my 6 month post op on Tuesday so I will discuss it then. Thanks all for the input.

I've been tempted to eat something just to test it but I think maybe not knowing is safer. What if knowing I don't allows me to eat things I shouldn't?

[oldoneyoungagain 200]

I am absolutely not a doctor but I have experienced late dumping several times. Twice after eating white rice, once from eating a baked potato (both simple carbs) and in all cases about two to three hours following eating. Late dumping is usually the result of reactive hypoglycemia. The first time I had it I checked my blood sugar and it was 37. The majority of folks (about two-thirds) who experience dumping experience early dumping. The remaining one-third experience late dumping. And it's important to remember that many never experience dumping at all.

Here are a couple of links, one from WebMD and the second one from the University of Rochester Medical Center describing dumping (including late dumping). There are many more.

http://www.webmd.com...oods-treatments

http://www.urmc.roch...4&ContentID=107

DL thanks for websites, read them and very helpful. Do have a question though. I'm a diabetic and have had my blood sugars drop as yours did. But because I haven't yet had bypass I could chew glucose tablets, eat a tube of frosting, drink chocolate Syrup. All of which is really high in sugar which with the bypass I'm sure it won't help the situation if sugar causes dumping. So what did you do to get your blood sugars back up? When sugars drop that low, I know for a fact we don't have time to call our doctor and I didn't pose this question to the Nut as that didn't even come to my mind. So any advice or information you can give would be appreciated. I've gone into a diabetic coma before from low blood sugars so this really scares me.

[SoccerMomma73 1,867]

DL thanks for websites' date=' read them and very helpful. Do have a question though. I'm a diabetic and have had my blood sugars drop as yours did. But because I haven't yet had bypass I could chew glucose tablets, eat a tube of frosting, drink chocolate Syrup. All of which is really high in sugar which with the bypass I'm sure it won't help the situation if sugar causes dumping. So what did you do to get your blood sugars back up? When sugars drop that low, I know for a fact we don't have time to call our doctor and I didn't pose this question to the Nut as that didn't even come to my mind. So any advice or information you can give would be appreciated. I've gone into a diabetic coma before from low blood sugars so this really scares me.[/quote']

Being that severely diabetic you need to have a plan in place before this ever happens!!! Make sure at your next appointment you ask this and get a good answer that you are comfortable with and that those around you also understand. God willing, once you have the surgery your diabetes will be much much better, possibly even gone, and you may not be a dumper, it appears that the vast majority of us are not or have such mild dumping symptoms that's it isn't really an issue so the dumping part may not even be an issue for you. However, as a diabetic you will need a plan for hypoglycemia. You'll have to get some carbs in immediately and my guess is that they'll have you take in Protein as well to try to prevent a repeat glucose crash. However, what they want you to eat and how much needs to be determined by your medical team. They know you and your body. Fingers crossed that RNY is the magic answer for you diabetes and you never ever ever have to use your emergency plan!

[DLCoggin 1,788]

DL thanks for websites, read them and very helpful. Do have a question though. I'm a diabetic and have had my blood sugars drop as yours did. But because I haven't yet had bypass I could chew glucose tablets, eat a tube of frosting, drink chocolate Syrup. All of which is really high in sugar which with the bypass I'm sure it won't help the situation if sugar causes dumping. So what did you do to get your blood sugars back up? When sugars drop that low, I know for a fact we don't have time to call our doctor and I didn't pose this question to the Nut as that didn't even come to my mind. So any advice or information you can give would be appreciated. I've gone into a diabetic coma before from low blood sugars so this really scares me.

I seldom fail to share my experience with anyone who asks but in this case, let's make a deal. You discuss this with your doctor. Without fail. In as much detail as necessary until you are completely confident in what action to take in the event that the situation comes up. Then share with us his/her advice on what you should do (there are no doubt others who would benefit from your comments), and then I'll be glad to share my experience with you. Deal?

I am not a doctor. And with a history of diabetic coma, this is a question for the Big Kahuna - not some guy or for that matter ANYONE on an internet forum, regardless of how well intentioned they might be.

Have a great day!!

[oldoneyoungagain 200]

_{Being that severely diabetic you need to have a plan in place before this ever happens!!! Make sure at your next appointment you ask this and get a good answer that you are comfortable with and that those around you also understand. God willing, once you have the surgery your diabetes will be much much better, possibly even gone, and you may not be a dumper, it appears that the vast majority of us are not or have such mild dumping symptoms that's it isn't really an issue so the dumping part may not even be an issue for you. However, as a diabetic you will need a plan for hypoglycemia. You'll have to get some carbs in immediately and my guess is that they'll have you take in Protein as well to try to prevent a repeat glucose crash. However, what they want you to eat and how much needs to be determined by your medical team. They know you and your body. Fingers crossed that RNY is the magic answer for you diabetes and you never ever ever have to use your emergency plan!}

_{Thanks for the reply. Actually from my pre-op appt with surgeon on Thursday he only brought up my diabetes, don't think he is actually too concerned about weight as I even continued to lose from having my band removed in May which all three of my doctors and Nut complimented me on. So I guess will discuss with the doctor either while I'm in the hospital next week, or when I have my post-op follow up the following week to see what I need to eat if I crash. I already have dumping episodes including just being on the liquid diet this past week, just don't crash. Again thanks.}

[oldoneyoungagain 200]

I seldom fail to share my experience with anyone who asks but in this case, let's make a deal. You discuss this with your doctor. Without fail. In as much detail as necessary until you are completely confident in what action to take in the event that the situation comes up. Then share with us his/her advice on what you should do (there are no doubt others who would benefit from your comments), and then I'll be glad to share my experience with you. Deal?

I am not a doctor. And with a history of diabetic coma, this is a question for the Big Kahuna - not some guy or for that matter ANYONE on an internet forum, regardless of how well intentioned they might be.

Have a great day!!

Thanks DL, actually it was my fault as I put myself in the coma, but didn't go into the coma until I got to the emergency room, as I knew within minutes what I had done. Stupid mistake on my part, but was under a lot of stress as my husband was seriously, seriously ill. I grabbed my regular insulin, rather than my long acting insulin (which I take more of) and injected myself with amount of units I use for long acting. But that is neither here or there. My concern is that I have had dumping syndrome for years, even on this liquid diet for pre-op I've been having issues this past week, and that is were my concern comes in. But I definitely will be discussing with my surgeon or just might call the Nut next week to see what I should consume to get blood sugars to a safer level if I have low blood sugar issues after surgery. Thanks I will actually post what I find out because as we all know, fat and sugars can cause dumping and hypoglycemia and being a diabetic we were taught what to do to get those blood sugars back to safe level. But in this case eating a mass amount of sugar, or even glucose tablets will probably cause a vicious cycle being a bypass patient. So will keep you informed of what I find out. Thanks.