Just putting it out there, so 'dirty' little secrets may see the light of day!

[Nicolanz 1,484]

I must say the sentence about "if you find this conversation dangerous stay away" doesn't sit right..

I've thought about that "them" and "us" attitude.

But at the end of the day we are all "them" and I welcome the opposing views so we can all get the full picture.

It's life. Outside and inside the forum, we have to make choices. I see a lot of pointing the finger at anything and everything but one's self. Addiction, enabling, him, her, anything! Bottom line is most of us are adults with a functioning brain. I LOVE cheetos but I can't blame the store for selling them or Sally for talking about them when I have a cheeto binge. We have to take responsibility if anything is going to be achieved. I'm not saying this with any ill intent, I want everyone to be successful.

[sophiepants 489]

Try reading the Enabling thread. It gives one a better insite on the views of OUR vets and there comments. I read all 6 pages last night and loved it. Even cryd as somethings made me answer questions about myself. Might help?

[No game 14,437]

It's life. Outside and inside the forum' date=' we have to make choices. I see a lot of pointing the finger at anything and everything but one's self. Addiction, enabling, him, her, anything! Bottom line is most of us are adults with a functioning brain. I LOVE cheetos but I can't blame the store for selling them or Sally for talking about them when I have a cheeto binge. We have to take responsibility if anything is going to be achieved. I'm not saying this with any ill intent, I want everyone to be successful.[/quote']

May I ask why you what you feel its finger pointing? I notice these conversations bug you.

(I'm thinking of gamer girls thread about enabling) By the way I like Cheetos too and do not blame the store or makers of them for my fat.

I am (was) fat because I ate like a pig and did not exercise any kind of control over it.

[CowgirlJane 14,261]

I have worked hard to take the power away from food. There is no good or bad, there is no cheating versus dieting. That was my old and unsucccessful way of thinking.

For me there are just 100s of times a day that I get to choose to eat for health or eat for some other reason.

I sometimes choose to consume for some other reason... But dont feel the need to confess or ask for absolution. This is just life now... Eat too much, eat things that trigger me, too many times and I will regain. Follow my eating plan and I maintain. Doesnt make me bad or good... It is simply factual.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

I have a confession. I'm semi grossed out, semi ashamed and semi impressed with myself.

Today I ate an...

[No game 14,437]

I have a confession. I'm semi grossed out' date=' semi ashamed and semi impressed with myself. Today I ate an...[/quote']

Ostrim? ?

I love the ostrim sticks!

[LipstickLady 25,682]

Ostrim? ?

I love the ostrim sticks!

Yes. I bought a box about 6 weeks ago and I've not been able to bring myself to eat them.

Today I ate one.

It was good and i was fine eating it unless I thought about it. When I thought about it, I gagged. It's the perfect snack with great stats but it's freaking ostrich!

[No game 14,437]

Lol, well you know I have a gut of steel so I can take down most anything without getting ill..

What's even funnier is I never not once felt sorry for those damn ostriches because they taste mighty fine

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[No game 14,437]

Teriyaki is my fav. Tastes like a slim Jim meat stick.

Edited November 6, 2013 by laura-ven

[LipstickLady 25,682]

Lol, well you know I have a gut of steel so I can take down most anything without getting ill..

What's even funnier is I never not once felt sorry for those damn ostriches because they taste mighty fine

They taste fine?

[Nicolanz 1,484]

I guess what bothers me is that these kinds of posts are being perceived as enabling. Once the actual surgery is over what are our main concerns? food and fitness. Life after the sleeve, right? Maybe I'm not on the site as much as others, but what I have not seen is people telling others to continue with destructive behavior. How is it enabling?

I see it as getting it off your chest and moving on. Let's move on together. How do we move on? It's all a learning experience.

[No game 14,437]

They taste fine?

See the evil eyes on those things just make me like it more

[clk 3,519]

I guess what bothers me is that these kinds of posts are being perceived as enabling. Once the actual surgery is over what are our main concerns? food and fitness. Life after the sleeve, right? Maybe I'm not on the site as much as others, but what I have not seen is people telling others to continue with destructive behavior. How is it enabling?

I see it as getting it off your chest and moving on. Let's move on together. How do we move on? It's all a learning experience.

I'm with you on most of it. But I think the point that many are trying to make here was that there was a LOT of back slapping and grinning over things like eating until you were sick, overindulging (I mean, not a slip, but a full on binge) and just plain justifying of bad choices.

I agree about personal responsibility and also remembering that life still involves food - not just diet food, but ya know, "BAD" food, too.

Meh. I'm unfollowing this one, though. You're either on one side of it or the other and there's no compromise between the two.

~Cheri

[clk 3,519]

And hello, those ostriches are CREEPY! Sadly (um, I don't think I mean that) Ostrim is a forbidden food. Ostrich isn't Kosher and while I don't keep strictly kosher for the hubs anymore, we don't bring absolutely unkosher things in. I think it's silly, it makes him feel better, though.

And if he relaxed that rule we compromised on, I'd bring in a three pound package of bacon to Celebrate, not a stick of ostrich meat.

~Cheri

[No game 14,437]

I guess what bothers me is that these kinds of posts are being perceived as enabling. Once the actual surgery is over what are our main concerns? food and fitness. Life after the sleeve, right? Maybe I'm not on the site as much as others, but what I have not seen is people telling others to continue with destructive behavior. How is it enabling?

I see it as getting it off your chest and moving on. Let's move on together. How do we move on? It's all a learning experience.

I in no way feel like all of these posts on this particular thread are enabling.. Just need to get that out there.

I do see some worrying posts though intermixed (as I have read the whole thing) some are sad. And some are scary to me. Yes this is my journey.

I am only responsible for myself, but I do care.

And do want to see the best for everyone here.

So I speak.