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It just confirms what we all suspected. Getting the scientific field to see it is a relief, don't you think? We are NOT just lazy gluttons... and people who are naturally thin eat 20% more than we do to maintain. It is a heroic effort for us to maintain. We already know this first hand. Perhaps at some time there will be a treatment to support maintenance of weightloss.

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Hey I like the way your looking at it!

It would be nice if we could let our guard down for a minute though, like a "normal" person.

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Nice Find!

And I agree I think the fluctuation of calories everyday is going to not tank our metabolism as much..

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A discussion on this topic and 5:2- some hope...

http://www.52fastdiet.co.uk/the-5-2-lab-f10/topic395.html#p2542

FROM THE ARTICLE

Re: Why dieting results in weight gain & will 5:2 be differe

by carorees » 06 Feb 2013, 19:34

Hi Dominic

I think the issue is not with the basic equation, which is of course correct, but that for most people who have lost weight the biological drive to go into positive energy balance is hard to overcome because our appetites are increased while the energy metabolised is lowered. Facing a lifetime of dietary restriction, most people fall off the wagon either intentionally (because the diet is too restrictive) or accidentally (because they did not realize that their energy use is lower than it should be for their height and weight). What happens as a result is that they not only regain the weight lost but a bit more because of the upward drift of the set point.

Looking at the population of dieters it is not the weight loss that is the issue, it is maintaining the healthy weight afterwards for most people.

The fact that the 5:2 lifestyle is sustainable indefinitely and the potential for it to have a different effect metabolically than traditional methods of calorie restriction gives us hope that it really will turn out to be the 'one'!

I LIKE THE LAST PART!

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Nice Find!

And I agree I think the fluctuation of calories everyday is going to not tank our metabolism as much..

Plus they talk about including good fats more on the eat days which I have been doing and it ink it has helped weight loss.

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Okay, FYE, I might be working on my meat consumption. From the original fast diet site. That second paragraph says it all!

Vive the Veg-olution!

Lots of buzz about at the moment around ‘demi-veg’ and part-time vegetarians (or ‘flexitarians’ – one of those clunky words that may well never take off, even if the activity does). Last week, the International Development Committee pointed to increased meat consumption as a catalyst for recent global food crises. And we all know that too much meat (particularly of the processed variety) is linked to all kinds of health issues.

One recent European study found that the biggest consumers of processed meat increased their risk of death from heart disease by 72% and cancer by 11%. The World Cancer Research Fund advises limiting intake of red meat because of its links to bowel cancer. By contrast, a six-year study published last week in the Journal of the American Medical Association and reported in the London Evening Standard found that ‘the mortality rate among vegetarians was 12 per cent lower than in omnivores, while demi-veggies had an 8 per cent lower death rate than meat eaters’.

This really is food for thought – and it fits in neatly with The Fast Diet mantra of ‘mostly Plants and Protein’. Filling your plate with veg at the expense of meat, even for two days a week, could have a significant effect on your health, your waistline, your pocket and – yes – the planet. As Einstein once said, ‘Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.’

Perhaps full-time vegetarianism is too seismic a shift for some of us, but we could all do with moving towards more plant Proteins, legumes, herbs, veggies. And, really, there’s no sacrifice. A veg-based meal relies on spicing, texture, colour, crunch – and once you’re in the zone, it’s not so hard to come up with great meatless meals (there are tons of ideas in The Fast Diet Recipe Book of course). I had lunch at Ottolenghi in Notting Hill a fortnight ago: bliss on a plate, and no meat, not a sausage. As the Standard says, maybe it’s time to join the vegolution?

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I've done this whole thing as a vegetarian... gain, lose, gain and lose again. It can be done. I am known as a good cook, and its always veg. I do make "fake meat" from scratch now and then, to get that hit of "meat" without the meat. Some of the best veggie cooking I have ever tried, check out:

http://veganfeastkitchen.blogspot.com/ Bryanna Clark Grogan has many cookbooks out to die for!

http://veganfeastkitchen.blogspot.com/p/recipe-links.html

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When I read the percentages I was shocked! It's certainly eye opening. My problem is I have always been a big meat eater. I have almost completely weaned myself off red meat except for the occasional hamburger and a roast once a month or so. I do eat turkey franks ( I am trying to get away from them because of nitrates but the calories Are so much higher on the non-nitrate franks than my extra lean turkey franks I eat now. 50 per frank versus 140 per frank).

I actually like and use the soy crumbles instead of ground beef a lot but if I still use any ground need at all it's 93% lean.

If I could figure out EASY/Quick ways to incorporate Tofu that I would eat I would like to experiment. ???? I'm just not going to spend a lot of time in the kitchen. Not me and I'm too old to start now. Ha!

I would welcome ideas, though, because I want to really eat healthier as this goes on. I'm doing fairly well as to Snacks and good fats, cheeses etc but .... ????

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Georgia I suck at cooking! But I do make tofu I'll post in the recipe sharing section here how I dry fry it.

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how many meals on a fast day? and other questions.

http://feedfastfeast.com/2012/08/25/grabbing-the-bullshit-by-the-horns/

Okay, what do you think? Anybody doing 5:2 presently eating ONE 500 calorie meal? I've been doing a late or early lunch of about 100 calories then eating the remainder before7pm thereabouts. So I would have had basically a 16 hour "fast" leading INTO the fast day and then another 12-14 hour After dinner by not eating until 10 or so the next day. Now, I'm wondering if we would have better success based on the information provided by the scientists if we only eat the one meal.

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Georgia I suck at cooking! But I do make tofu I'll post in the recipe sharing section here how I dry fry it.

Awesome!

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