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We are suppose to be watching our carb and fat intake. So I am eating a cup and half a food everyday, I am not concern about the fat. However, my carbs concern me. If you can only stomach baby food( vegs), mash potatoes, milk etc. they all have carbs, even my Vitamins. So this does go against what we have learned. However, if you cant stomach solid foods you have to eat something. My doctor said nine glasses of milk would work everyday if it didnt cause me to vomit. What are you guys doing differently than what the doctor prescribed and are you losing? I am having hard time losing because of my calorie intake which is a struggle every day.

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Precious, everybody's sleeve is different. I never counted anything (and still don't), mostly because I have to eat what my sleeve will allow--and, for good or ill, it doesn't let me eat foods that aren't good for me (can't tolerate fried foods, most flour products, sweets). However, it also doesn't let me eat good-for-me foods like chicken, eggs, tuna, etc., so it's a trade off. Since you're having such a difficult time trying to do the "standard" things, why not try something else? Maybe aim to get some Protein through vegetable sources--get some bean Soup and zap it in the blender and heat that up and eat it. Split pea with ham. Vegetarian chili that has TVP (textured vegetable protein) instead of meat--zap them up so they're smooth and try those.

My point is, low-carbing will work for a good number of folks, but not everyone. If your sleeve won't tolerate a lot of the typical Protein foods (tuna, chicken, whatever), you obviously can't eat those, and a lot of very healthy, non-animal-protein-based foods are going to come with some carbs.

Since you can't keep a lot of solid stuff down yet, I say don't worry about your carbs too much and just try to find a set of foods you can eat that are tolerable. I lived for the first few months on yogurt, spoons of Peanut Butter, cottage cheese, and soup--literally ate Soup every day. You'll be glad later that your sleeve is picky--right now, it STINKS, but as you heal and progress, you'll be happy to have that picky thing that keeps you from eating what you shouldn't. Hang in there, my friend!!

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I would not worry too much about the carb thing right now. Just eat what you can, Protein mostly like Soups, broths, yogurt, Jello sf, pudding sf, cottage cheese. These are all good foods. Like MegInNola stated. Do the best you can and try not to stress tooooo much.... ;)

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In the liquid and mushies stage, counting carbs is not as important, at least not for me. I didn't worry about it a whole lot till I was on solids.

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carbs vs. net carbs are what you are looking for, and sugars.

for example, Kroger candied yams:

210 calories for 1/2 cup serving

total carbs 51g

Fiber 1g

sugars 43 g

kroger mixed veggies, canned

40 calories for 1/2 cup serving

total carbs 7g

Fiber 2g

sugar 3g

looking past the obvious difference in calories,

the yams have 51 total carbs, and only 1g fiber - so your net carbs is 50g - that is 50g that basically your body will and or can use for energy. only 1g can be used to help "flush' your system and counter the 43g sugar!

he mixed veggies have a high sugar to total carbs ratio, however, you have a much higher total carbs to fiber ratio. the sugars, at 3g for 1/2 cup is nominal.

Did that help? lol

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I didn't start to worry about carbs until I was able to start eating solid foods. Then I began to transition to almond milk instead of skim dairy milk, and dropped things like mashed potatoes, creamed Soups, and refried Beans. I only ate those during the mushy stage.

My nutritionist emphasized that in the early weeks you're eating so little you need to bump up the calories where you can so your body doesn't panic and hold on to very pound.

It's VERY common to go through a stage of slow weight loss / no weight loss starting around the 3rd week post-op, mostly because your body has gone into shock at the huge change in dietary content and caloric intake. Don't worry, the weight loss will start again, you just need a little time to adjust.

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My NUT is totally against low carbing. She advocates making wise carb choices- but that's it.

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My NUT is totally against low carbing. She advocates making wise carb choices- but that's it.

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whether or not you go with a low/high or inbetween carb level - and chances are you may do all more than once - knowing what to look for is very important in regards to getting what you need out of your selections. Especially diabetics. In my opinion diabetics should not go by a low/high carb choice. Moderation and continuous testing as the pounds come off are key. I was diabetic for 5 years - it is always in the back of my head!

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As Pookeyism pointed out, not all carbs are created equal.

A bean has carbs, and so does a Hershey kiss. Which do you think you should eat? :)

Generally when people say "don't eat carbs" what they mean is "don't eat white or processed carbs": things made with white flour or rice, refined white sugars, etc. They usually don't mean "don't eat a piece of fruit" or "don't eat vegetables", which also have carbs.

The bulk of carbs in a healthy diet come from vegetables. 40/30/30 (Protein, fat, carbs) is a healthy average. When I was low-carbing it, I maintained about 70/25/5. It was extreme, but it worked. But ALL of the carbs were natural carbs from vegetables. No fruits at all.

High Protein ratios require more Water intake. The easy formula is half your body weight in ounces of Water, per day. For good hydration, but also to keep the Proteins flushed out of your system. They'll cause you some problems if you don't wash them out. (A protein only diet will kill you, you'll basically get protein poisoning... that's why survivalists tell you to cook the animal, but also eat the organs and other tidbits.)

HTH

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As Pookeyism pointed out, not all carbs are created equal.

A bean has carbs, and so does a Hershey kiss. Which do you think you should eat? :)

Generally when people say "don't eat carbs" what they mean is "don't eat white or processed carbs": things made with white flour or rice, refined white sugars, etc. They usually don't mean "don't eat a piece of fruit" or "don't eat vegetables", which also have carbs.

The bulk of carbs in a healthy diet come from vegetables. 40/30/30 (protein, fat, carbs) is a healthy average. When I was low-carbing it, I maintained about 70/25/5. It was extreme, but it worked. But ALL of the carbs were natural carbs from vegetables. No fruits at all.

High Protein ratios require more Water intake. The easy formula is half your body weight in ounces of Water, per day. For good hydration, but also to keep the Proteins flushed out of your system. They'll cause you some problems if you don't wash them out. (A Protein only diet will kill you, you'll basically get protein poisoning... that's why survivalists tell you to cook the animal, but also eat the organs and other tidbits.)

HTH

Not dog livers! it will kill you!

but seriously, know your sweet breads!

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