Jump to content
×
Are you looking for the BariatricPal Store? Go now!

Protein Source/type Controversy - Premier?



Recommended Posts

So, I made a silly random comment about my premier Protein shake on twitter, and had a person come back to me kind of off topic from what I posted to tell me that I shouldn't be relying on Premier Protein drinks as a Protein source because its not 100% hydrolyzed whey protein so isn't absorbed well. Not sure if this person is a rep for proto whey or what, but of course it rattles me to hear that a protein source I'm relying on may not be the best.

This particular one was recommended whole heartedly by my NUT as a good choice and she confirmed it this week.

So what is the deal?

I know she told me that I shouldn't use the protein bullets because the collagen form of protein is not very absorbable unless you consume animal protein at the same time. And she also just generally mentioned sources of protein derived from plants rather than animal are not as absorbable unless consumed with an animal protein source.

So why is the form of protein in PRemier supposedly bad? it lists milk protein concentrate, milk protein isolate, Calcium caseinate and whey protein concentrate. I have no clue.

I'm sure this has been asked before but didn't find a great thread upon searching. Does anyone have a link to an unbiased primer about the different types of protein and how they are absorbed and what is considered the best source from an unbiased source?

I'm willing to change but I don't want to change if what I'm doing is fine!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Alot of people think they know everything. Well guess what? They don't know. Every source I have heard talks very highly of Premier High Protein Drinks. It comes highly recommended by numerous dieticians and bariatric centers. I love it and will not stop drinking it. I do have other Protein like NuTek pro5 and isolate. I am learning to cook yummy pumpkin banana high protein bread with the isolate creamy vanilla and boy is it good. I like to just grab the premier in the am and just drink it without mixing it. If you find anything negative about it please keep us posted.

Basically, I wouldn't worry about it too much. ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

thats how I feel too. I initially didn't like it, but its so easy and portable that I too really rely on it for my Breakfast. So I'd love to hear if anyone has any information or sources.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have not been able to find much of anything from what I would consider a reputable source that indicates that collagen Fiber is not OK. All of the protien sources "loose" a certain amount in a "pure" form. I have read it is actually nominal. If you take the bullets, you can actually consume enough to balance it out easily.

You absorbed protien just fine before, and your stomach will learn to do so again.

In regards to whether or not you are getting enough protien, be sure not to forget your Multivitamins, Calcium, and keep a "log" of your veggies, so you have an idea of your Fiber also.

I will say from a purely personal point of view, drawn from experience and observation only. I think I feel better when I consume a bullet protien of choice daily. It does have the collagen, but it also has whey.< /p>

I have not tried the drink you spoke of originally. I really like powders?utm_source=BariatricPal&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=CommentLink" target="_ad" data-id="1" >unjury.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

From what I understand about Milk Protein is that it is absorbed a little slower than Whey, but it is still absorbed.

If you are finishing a weight lifting routine, yes, Whey Protein is best. You want it absorbed into your bloodstream and made available for muscle repair ASAP.

If you just had 85% of your stomach removed ... you're allllll goooood.

BTW, my NUT also told me to stay away from the bullets ...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Interesting. The Premier Protein shakes is what I've been using and what was recommended along with others by my nutritionist. I was surprised to read your post. It's working for me. I did try a sample packet of the Unjury chocolate Protein mix and it was pretty good. The convenience of the Premier shakes is ideal. So, that is what I'm going with. Cheers!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I got to goal and beyond with Premier Protein shakes and I still drink them. My labs are super and I feel great. I'm not messing with what has worked for me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I drink Premier Protein shakes regularly, too. My Nut and Surgeon both recommend them. I did ask about the Protein bullets and got frowns from both because of the collagen.< /p>

The first place I read about problems with collagen protein was the weight-lifters' boards. If you google "collagen protein" and "weight lifting", you'll find some very long and involved discussions on those boards. They sound just like the science nerds I knew in HS. I was a nerd, but not over science, for clarification! LOL The discussions I read convinced me; then my Nut and doctor backed it up. I won't be using collagen as my protein source. I was really intrigued by the idea of getting 30-48 g of protein from a 3 oz drink, too! :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I also drink Premier Protein because I like the taste of it and because it's convenient. There have been other posts about different Protein sources but basically, hydrolyzed protein is more absorbable than isolates and isolates are more absorbable than concentrates. But honestly, I don't know how much of this REALLY matters for us!!!

Here is a link explaining the differences:

http://www.wheyproteinfiend.com/best-whey-protein/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That was a great link Lisa, and thanks to all of you for comments, because I hoped that between NUT recommendation and what seemed like the large number of people using premier here, that it probably was a decent choice.

I think you make a good point PDxman about what purpose the Protein supplement is being consumed for!

Thanks all of you for sharing your experiences, I feel better, I actually really rely on my premiers and wouldn't want to lose them (can't believe i'm saying that now given that pre-op I just HATED them :) :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just wish I could locate their strawberry flavor!!

I think the only place you can get the strawberry is online, directly from Premier Nutrition....unfortunately, it's out of stock right now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Interestingly enough, a colleague of mine was recently telling me that Protein bars are a waste, and the majority of the Protein is not absorbed. The liquid whey and milk Proteins are better.

Has anyone heard this?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Interestingly enough, a colleague of mine was recently telling me that Protein bars are a waste, and the majority of the Protein is not absorbed. The liquid whey and milk Proteins are better.

Has anyone heard this?

Did they give any reason? I would follow up with them. I couldn't imagine why protein suspended in a bar would not absorb vs protein suspended in a shake ...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nope, no reason! I haven't even researched it over the web yet. If I get any useful information, I'll make sure to post it in this thread.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Trending Products

  • Trending Topics

  • Recent Status Updates

    • vsg.with.sharon

      Hey everyone!
      I’m new here! Looking for some friends! 🥰
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • LeighaTR

      Four days post surgery. I am sipping as fast as I can and getting NO WHERE near the goal of 60 - 80 grams of protein or the 64 oz of liquids. I just feel FULL. I don't know if it can still be the gas build up (I would think by now that would be gone) but it is a struggle to drink. And so far I have not had the nausea or spasms and don't want to wander into that territory by pushing too hard with liquids. I about passed out today as it was my most "strenuous" day. Went from second story to basement for shower and I was sure I was going to pass out. Looking back on my last few days I have had a total of less than 1000 calories. Am I just not getting enough nourishment in me? Once again a friday where I can't get ahold of the doc until Monday rolls back around so I am hoping maybe someone here has some experience on how to keep energy going. I do have fibromyalgia too and that may be where some added fatigue comes into play. How did you all fair with the goals the week after surgery?
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • Doughgurl

      2 days until I fly out to San Diego to have my Bypass Surg. in Tiajuana Mexico. Not gonna lie, the nerves are starting to surface. I don't fear the surgery itself, or the fact that I'm traveling alone, but its the aftermath that I'm stressing about the most, after this 8 week wait. I'm excited to finally be here, but I am really dreading the post surgical chapter. I know its going to be tough, real tough and I think I'm just in my head to much now that the day i here. Wish me luck, Hopefully I'm one of the lucky ones, and everything goes smoothly. Cant wait to give an exciting update,. If there is anyone else have a June bypass or even a recent one, Id love to have someone to compare war stories with. Also, anyone near San Antonio Tx? See ya soon with the future me. 💜
      · 3 replies
      1. Phil Penn

        Good Luck this procedure is well worth it I am down to 249.6 lb please continue with the process..

      2. Selina333

        I'm in Houston so kind of near you and had the sleeve in Dec. Down 61 lbs. Feeling better. Was definitely worth it. I hope the everything is going well for you. Update us when you can!

      3. Doughgurl

        I am back home after my bypass surgery in Tiajuana. I'm post op day 4. Everything went great! I guess I'm one of the lucky ones who have not encountered much pain at all, no nausea thus far and I'm having no problem keeping down broths and water. Thank you for your well wishes. I cant wait to keep up this journey and have a chance at better health and simply better quality of life. I know there will be bumps in the road ahead, and everything won't be peaches and cream, but at least I have a great start so far. 😍

    • LeighaTR

      I am new here today... and only two weeks out from my sleeve surgery on the 23rd. I am amazed I have kept my calories down to 467 today so far... that leaves me almost 750 left for dinner and maybe a snack. This is going to be tough for two weeks... but I have to believe I can do it!
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • Doughgurl

      Hey everyone. I'm new here so I thought I should introduce myself. I am 53y/o and am scheduled for Gastric Bypass on June 25th, 2025. I'm located in San Antonio, Texas. I will be having my surgery in Tiajuana Mexico. I've wanted this for years, but I always had insurance where bariatric procedures were excluded. Finally I am able to afford to pay out of pocket.  I can't wait to get started, and I hope I'm prepared for the initial period of "hell". I know what I have signed up for, but I'm sure the good to come will out way the temporary period of discomfort and feelings of regret. I'd love to find people to talk to who have been through the same procedure or experience before. So I look forward to meeting you all. Hope you have a great week!
      · 2 replies
      1. Selina333

        I'm so happy for you! You are about to change your life. I was so glad to get the sleeve done in Dec. I didn't have feelings of regret overall. And I'm down almost 60 lbs. I do feel a little sad at restaurants. I can barely eat half a kid's meal. I get adults meals often because kid ones don't have the same offerings at times. Then I feel obligated to eat on that until it's gone and that can be days. So the restaurant thing isn't great for me. All the rest is fine by me! I love feeling full with very little. I do wish I could drink when eating. And will sip at the end. Just a strong habit to stop. But I'm working on it! You will do fine! Just keep focused on your desire to be different. Not better or worse. But different. I am happy both ways but my low back doesn't like me that heavy. So I listened (also my feet!). LOL! Update us on your journey! I'm not far from you. I'm in Houston. Good luck and I hope it all goes smoothly! Would love to see pics of the town you go to for this. I've never been there. Neat you will be traveling for this! Enjoy the journey. Take it one day at a time. Sometimes a few hours at a time. Follow all recommendations as best you can. 💗

      2. Doughgurl

        Thank you so much for your well wishes. I am hoping that everything goes easy for me as well. We don't eat out much as it is, so it wont be too bad in that department. Thankfully. Also, I hear you regarding your back and feet!! I'd like to add knees to the list. Killing me as we speak! I'm only 5' so the weight has to go. Too short to carry all this weight. Menopause really did a doosey on me. (😶lol) My daughter also lives in Houston. with her Husband and my 5 grand-littles. I grew up in Beaumont, so I know Houston well, I will be sure to keep in touch and update you on my journey. I may need some advice in the future, or just motivation. Thank You so much for reaching out, I was hoping to connect with someone in the community. I really appreciate it. 💜

  • Recent Topics

  • Hot Products

  • Sign Up For
    Our Newsletter

    Follow us for the latest news
    and special product offers!
  • Together, we have lost...
      lbs

    PatchAid Vitamin Patches

    ×