Almost 5 Weeks Post-op And I'm Starving!

[reallyrosy 161]

Mrs newme and all:

Heartburn: an actual sensation of burning (painful) in the esophagus sometimes with burping of bad gas. Can sometimes mimic heartattack.

Hunger: sensation of emptiness in stomach accompanied by salivation (sometimes) a sense of lite headedness sometimes and a desire to eat.

Where on earth do u see a resemblence between these two body sensations?

[Mrs.Newme 21]

Really Rosy....

Are you kidding me? Prior to your surgery, did you try medication for weight loss? They feel the same. The only time I have excess salivation is when I want to vomit. They are very similar for many. Heartburn does NOT always include belching or gas. Don't knock what other people percieve as a similar sensation. There is no need for sarcasm on this forum. Obviously other people have had the same sensation. Thanks for your medical knowledge though on the interpretation I have on my own body.

[reallyrosy 161]

If you want sarcasm, I can produce it. Just say when!

What I posted was MY definitions of heartburn and hunger.

Yes I lost over 128# on phentermine. Then I broke a couple bones and ran into physical diffiulties that prevented me from exercising. Plus, the doc decided to get me off phentermine after several years. The weight started to creep back on. I freaked. That's what brought me to vsg.

I was taking a medication that gave me severe heartburn which only 5 weeks of Nexium 40 would alleviate. I am still taking nexium 40 and have not had any sensation of heartburn at all even tho I am back on the medication, as well. So I am intimately aware of MY definition of heartburn.

Enough people in the forums have voiced the same idea that hunger is really heartburn. That don't mean they are right. It doesn't mean some of them aren't right. What it means is, at least for me and a few other respondents, hunger sensations to do not equal heartburn sensations.

It is frustrating to be told repeatedly that I am really having heartburn instead of hunger and I should take MORE of the PPI than I'm taking. Just because someone else said it, doesn't make it true.

I'm not able to satisfy my HUNGER with 6 ounces (per day) of Protein. I AM HUNGRY.

[reallyrosy 161]

Really Rosy....

Thanks for your medical knowledge though on the interpretation I have on my own body.

Ps: you do quite well dishing out sarcasm yourself! Would u like a mirror?

[Mrs.Newme 21]

Sunshine:

I am almost 3 months post-op and I definitely feel hungry throughout the day. I also have late night cravings, which is KILLING ME!! When I feel hungry I just try to drink Water until I dont feel the hunger or cravings anymore, but it is getting worse.

I feel your pain. Any help or insight on this would be great.

MsKendra, I have had this also, and have used the Water. Before my sleeve also. I find that with the acidreflux, even the water doesn't always help. What I have found however is a sugar free mint tends to sooth it. Just something I found that works with me. Good luck. I hope it gets better.

[Mrs.Newme 21]

I'm almost 4 weeks post-op, and like most obese people, I don't know the difference between hunger and thirst. When I feel that I'm hungry, I drink Water for about 15 - 20 minutes, and if the feeling persists, I assume that I'm hungry, and I have 1/2 c. of a Protein food. I get most of my Protein from Isopure mixed with unsweetened almond milk. When I haven't taken in at least 70 grams of protein a day, I get hungry. I can't imagine being told to not drink protein shakes! My surgeon recommends them. Your sleeve isn't failing; your body needs fuel. Carby foods trigger insulin, which not only makes us store fat, but triggers hunger. Protein keeps us full, and triggers glucagon, which allows the body to burn fat.

Great points Mrs Bionic Broad...love the name btw. I also feel that sometimes I have not gotten enough of the right foods in. It is really a balancing act. I haven't tried the Isopure. But I may try the almond milk. Rice milk is pretty good too. In the past (prior to the sleeve), my most successful weight loss attempts were with high protein intake also and less carbs. The Proteins take much longer to burn off and helps delay the hunger. As a kid I had severe hypoglycemia, and I had to learn to eat enough protein to help my body maintain the energy. I have learned already with the weight loss I have had so far that hypoglycemia is again an issue for me. So I am back to ensuring I am getting enough protein in. Thanks for your insights, I am sure they will be helpful.

[swizzly 901]

I've been hungry since, no joke, two days post-op. LOL. I was hungry the minute I stopped dry-heaving. I've been hungry ever since, and am well-treated for acid with a PPI and Gaviscon as needed. It's not acid, it's hunger. I thought that might suck, but I'm actually glad about it. Not having any appetite would enable some bad behaviors on my part.

So your surgeon is a bit of a fascist. I think you should follow the rules, but I also think you should follow your own common sense. If you are getting hungry sooner after a meal than your next meal time, then add in healthy snacks! I am on three meals and three Snacks per day, it totally helps keep my blood sugar more stable and I feel less super hunger as a result. If you want to use Protein shakes, use them! They are good for you ferf*cksake, I can't imagine why they are outlawed. I don't use them on my plan, but I know most people do.

I did my level best to get to 1000 cals per day as soon as I could -- with three meals and three Snacks, it's doable totally. I'm up to 12-1400 now. I lose slowly but comfortably -- and I do LOSE.

Btw, I didn't get my sensation of "full" back for some time, but it did eventually come back, so I do feel full now. I still get hungry again a couple hours later though. Meh, so it goes. I do have to use self-control and willpower, it just requires a lot less than pre-op.

I don't think your sleeve has stretched -- there is no evidence that they do so.

Good luck!!

[thebionicbroad 127]

Rosy,

I'm less than four weeks out with the sleeve, so I am not qualified to make assumptions about anything. What I am questioning is the amount of Protein that you are getting. If you are getting 70 - 80 grams a day, and are still feeling true hunger, I'd say eat a small Protein snack. I've been all over these boards since November, when I found out that I was going to be sleeved, and NOWHERE have I encountered one person whose doctor said no Protein drinks, or SF Jell-O, etc. To me, your doctor is setting you up for failure. Personally, I don't know how you are still sane, and I hurt for you. You sound like a neat lady who deserves better than to be starved.

[reallyrosy 161]

Swizzly you got me convinced. I'm going out for a new container of almond milk and going to load up on a Protein shake. My mouth Is frozen from the ice pops.that's the only snack I was given.

Though I wonder if canned mushrooms or greenbeans would be considered a snack? I don't really understand how to use those because he said 2 oz Protein and if any room left then the veggies...hmmmm...maybe that's supposed to be my snack? Well, I wonder how chocloate Syrup (absolutely no nutritive value) would go with strngbeans???? Uh nah ....????

Thanks for the feedback

[reallyrosy 161]

Swizzly and Bionic kiss kiss!

I just had a few hours of peace! No driving eat eat eat sensation. No freezing. Just peaceful sit and do whatever...focus easily. Holy cow and all it took was a Protein drink. Thanks both so much for the support and feedback. I used Protein drinks before the vsg and they helped tide me over and I was lost without them. Now I will integrate them int the plan and use them as snack and supplements if I go nuts again. I am contracted 3x a week with a personal trainer and the other 3 or 4 days I workout on my own so....

[momofthree 14]

sunshine, this is disturbing. can i ask who did your gastric sleeve? please call and ask dont

be ashamed. maybe your surgeon Can help. how upsetting. what about that hunger hormone

being mostly all cut out.. this topic is depressing. wish you well. hope youve gotten an answer

[reallyrosy 161]

sunshine, this is disturbing. can i ask who did your gastric sleeve? please call and ask dont

be ashamed. maybe your surgeon Can help. how upsetting. what about that hunger hormone

being mostly all cut out.. this topic is depressing. wish you well. hope youve gotten an answer

Huh? What is she going to do? Demand he do it again? Are you 100% in control of your sense of hunger now that you've been sleeved?

[SKCUNNINGHAM 298]

Swizzly you got me convinced. I'm going out for a new container of almond milk and going to load up on a Protein shake. My mouth Is frozen from the ice pops.that's the only snack I was given.

Though I wonder if canned mushrooms or greenbeans would be considered a snack? I don't really understand how to use those because he said 2 oz Protein and if any room left then the veggies...hmmmm...maybe that's supposed to be my snack? Well, I wonder how chocloate Syrup (absolutely no nutritive value) would go with strngbeans???? Uh nah ....????

Thanks for the feedback

I occasionally use a veggie for a snack. I eat my Proteins for meals and one or two Snacks. Sometime mid morning or mid afternoon I might have 3 -5 mini carrots or a handful of fresh snap peas if I either don't have a protein snack, or am going to have my protein only in my 3 meals that day.

[Bedhead 158]

I got hungry just reading this thread.

[reallyrosy 161]

I got hungry just reading this thread.

Rofl!