Jump to content
×
Are you looking for the BariatricPal Store? Go now!

Anavar whilst losing fat



Recommended Posts

Is this poss? And will it show results like toning the body for when the fat has gone?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

IMO stay away from steroids... The whole point of the band is to get healthier and that route is counterproductive. At any rate, to be anabolic while losing fat is no easy task. It can be done in tiny steps through calorie cycling but I would reserve that for a bit down the road and just focus on fat loss at the outset....

Brad

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks brad. I will take your advice. What is calorie cycling that I have heard so many times?

Gav

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I apologize but this is gonna be long...

Every pound gained - and every pound lost - is a combination of fat, lean tissue, and fluids. We want to tip the ratio toward maintaining Fluid, maintaining - or even gaining lean muscle tissue, all the while losing fat.

To lose requires a deficit and that deficit is best managed with a combination of intake and export. Trying to create the deficit solely on intake will not achieve the desired result. You can lose lots of "weight" but most people want to be healthier, not just lighter. Managing strictly from an intake perspective frequently leads to what many refer to as a "skinny fat person." We want the fat gone - but keep or increase the lean muscle tissue.

Here is why I despise low calorie diets and low/no exercise lifestyles. In order to keep as much lean muscle tissue as possible we have to protect it. Our bodies store carbohydrate in the form of fat. We can't store Protein. If we lack required amino acids then our body breaks down lean muscle tissue (protein) to get what it is lacking. To avoid this we have to readily provide Proteins by our food choices. And not just any Proteins - complete proteins. There are 10 essential amino acids that need to be supplied by our diet (although some will argue there are only 8). Fail to provide them and essentially your body eats itself to get what it needs. Lean muscle tissue is many fold more metabolically active than fat - so it burns more calories just by its' existence. Any loss in muscle tissue means your body requires less calories to survive - making fat LOSS even harder. Examples of COMPLETE proteins are dairy, eggs, meat, fish, poultry. Grains, nuts and Beans are not bad food choices, however, they are not complete proteins.

Now lets put all of this together....

Because we have been fasting while sleeping, our bodies start the day catabolic. We need nutrition ASAP to protect our lean muscle tissue and get the calorie burning machine off to a good start. A Protein shake is a great way to accomplish this for bandsters because it can be difficult for us to eat sufficient solid foods early in our day.

Throughout the day we need to do our best to keep well fueled because that is what keeps our metabolism burning and convinces our body it doesn't need to store fuel (fat). A complete Protein source every 3-5 hours is important. Never skip meals or go long periods without eating. That triggers the need for fuel storage because your body doesn't know when its' next opportunity for fuel is coming.

If you are able to follow those rough guidelines then cycling calories opens up a new world. Cycling calories refers alternating periods of calorie surplus and deficit. This affords you the opportunity to lose some fat during deficit and gain some muscle during surplus. This is a slow but compounding process because the more muscle you add, the more calories you can eat - yet still lose fat. But don't expect to gain 10 pounds of muscle in a year - it's not going to happen. Building muscle tissue is a very slow and arduous process. It is MANY times easier for our bodies to be catabolic rather than anabolic. And for women it is yet even more difficult because of hormonal reasons. Women need not worry developing huge unwanted muscles - most couldn't even if that were their only goal.

So just as an example....

Monday thru Wednesday you do moderate cardio and create a 1000 calorie deficit, derived from both diet and exercise each day.

Thursday, Friday, and Saturday you do sufficient strength and resistance training and create a 300 calorie surplus each day. Never work the same muscles on consecutive days but push them to the point of failure. Muscle soreness 24 hours later is a good thing...

Sunday you rest and have an even calorie balance. Repeat.....

You can mix things up for longer periods or shorter, however, I prefer to have no less than 2 consecutive surplus days. If properly applied, this will yield fat loss and slight muscle gain... Over the long term you will end up with a much more toned and lower fat body.

Brad

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow. Cheers brad. So how do I make a 1000 cal deficit? How many calories should I be having? And burning etc. I normally can only squeeze in 30 mins interval training that gives me a 450 cal burn. I normally eat between 1200-1400 cal on these days so my net tends to be between 800-1000.

Pls help lol

Gav

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Use one of the online calculators to determine your base metabolic rate (just what it takes to fuel you for a day without activities) then factor in calories burned during exercise. An individual heart rate monitor is a good way to do this. The ones on exercise equipment are generalizations and not that accurate. Then eat accordingly to create the surplus or deficit desired for that day.

Brad

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Trending Products

  • Trending Topics

  • Recent Status Updates

    • vsg.with.sharon

      Hey everyone!
      I’m new here! Looking for some friends! 🥰
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • LeighaTR

      Four days post surgery. I am sipping as fast as I can and getting NO WHERE near the goal of 60 - 80 grams of protein or the 64 oz of liquids. I just feel FULL. I don't know if it can still be the gas build up (I would think by now that would be gone) but it is a struggle to drink. And so far I have not had the nausea or spasms and don't want to wander into that territory by pushing too hard with liquids. I about passed out today as it was my most "strenuous" day. Went from second story to basement for shower and I was sure I was going to pass out. Looking back on my last few days I have had a total of less than 1000 calories. Am I just not getting enough nourishment in me? Once again a friday where I can't get ahold of the doc until Monday rolls back around so I am hoping maybe someone here has some experience on how to keep energy going. I do have fibromyalgia too and that may be where some added fatigue comes into play. How did you all fair with the goals the week after surgery?
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • Doughgurl

      2 days until I fly out to San Diego to have my Bypass Surg. in Tiajuana Mexico. Not gonna lie, the nerves are starting to surface. I don't fear the surgery itself, or the fact that I'm traveling alone, but its the aftermath that I'm stressing about the most, after this 8 week wait. I'm excited to finally be here, but I am really dreading the post surgical chapter. I know its going to be tough, real tough and I think I'm just in my head to much now that the day i here. Wish me luck, Hopefully I'm one of the lucky ones, and everything goes smoothly. Cant wait to give an exciting update,. If there is anyone else have a June bypass or even a recent one, Id love to have someone to compare war stories with. Also, anyone near San Antonio Tx? See ya soon with the future me. 💜
      · 3 replies
      1. Phil Penn

        Good Luck this procedure is well worth it I am down to 249.6 lb please continue with the process..

      2. Selina333

        I'm in Houston so kind of near you and had the sleeve in Dec. Down 61 lbs. Feeling better. Was definitely worth it. I hope the everything is going well for you. Update us when you can!

      3. Doughgurl

        I am back home after my bypass surgery in Tiajuana. I'm post op day 4. Everything went great! I guess I'm one of the lucky ones who have not encountered much pain at all, no nausea thus far and I'm having no problem keeping down broths and water. Thank you for your well wishes. I cant wait to keep up this journey and have a chance at better health and simply better quality of life. I know there will be bumps in the road ahead, and everything won't be peaches and cream, but at least I have a great start so far. 😍

    • LeighaTR

      I am new here today... and only two weeks out from my sleeve surgery on the 23rd. I am amazed I have kept my calories down to 467 today so far... that leaves me almost 750 left for dinner and maybe a snack. This is going to be tough for two weeks... but I have to believe I can do it!
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • Doughgurl

      Hey everyone. I'm new here so I thought I should introduce myself. I am 53y/o and am scheduled for Gastric Bypass on June 25th, 2025. I'm located in San Antonio, Texas. I will be having my surgery in Tiajuana Mexico. I've wanted this for years, but I always had insurance where bariatric procedures were excluded. Finally I am able to afford to pay out of pocket.  I can't wait to get started, and I hope I'm prepared for the initial period of "hell". I know what I have signed up for, but I'm sure the good to come will out way the temporary period of discomfort and feelings of regret. I'd love to find people to talk to who have been through the same procedure or experience before. So I look forward to meeting you all. Hope you have a great week!
      · 2 replies
      1. Selina333

        I'm so happy for you! You are about to change your life. I was so glad to get the sleeve done in Dec. I didn't have feelings of regret overall. And I'm down almost 60 lbs. I do feel a little sad at restaurants. I can barely eat half a kid's meal. I get adults meals often because kid ones don't have the same offerings at times. Then I feel obligated to eat on that until it's gone and that can be days. So the restaurant thing isn't great for me. All the rest is fine by me! I love feeling full with very little. I do wish I could drink when eating. And will sip at the end. Just a strong habit to stop. But I'm working on it! You will do fine! Just keep focused on your desire to be different. Not better or worse. But different. I am happy both ways but my low back doesn't like me that heavy. So I listened (also my feet!). LOL! Update us on your journey! I'm not far from you. I'm in Houston. Good luck and I hope it all goes smoothly! Would love to see pics of the town you go to for this. I've never been there. Neat you will be traveling for this! Enjoy the journey. Take it one day at a time. Sometimes a few hours at a time. Follow all recommendations as best you can. 💗

      2. Doughgurl

        Thank you so much for your well wishes. I am hoping that everything goes easy for me as well. We don't eat out much as it is, so it wont be too bad in that department. Thankfully. Also, I hear you regarding your back and feet!! I'd like to add knees to the list. Killing me as we speak! I'm only 5' so the weight has to go. Too short to carry all this weight. Menopause really did a doosey on me. (😶lol) My daughter also lives in Houston. with her Husband and my 5 grand-littles. I grew up in Beaumont, so I know Houston well, I will be sure to keep in touch and update you on my journey. I may need some advice in the future, or just motivation. Thank You so much for reaching out, I was hoping to connect with someone in the community. I really appreciate it. 💜

  • Recent Topics

  • Hot Products

  • Sign Up For
    Our Newsletter

    Follow us for the latest news
    and special product offers!
  • Together, we have lost...
      lbs

    PatchAid Vitamin Patches

    ×