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Ok everyone just read a new release from John Hopkins basically saying no meat. I am not a huge red meat fan but since I was banded do tend to eat more meat and less Fruits and veggies.

I need ideas I am sure there are vegetarians out there. I don't like eggs, fish or sea food. I know a fatty with limitations. I am more of a carbatarian. Anyway I need ideas. I have been eatting a 20g Protein Bar but it is too much of a slider for me. It doesn't satisfy

Thanks

Jessica

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Everything is ok in moderation. The ammount of meat you are able to eat with the band should not be a problem. Just try and get leaner cuts of meat instead of the fatty ones.

You can also try chicken and tofu.

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Tofu, Beans, soy, Peanut Butter, nuts, hemp seed, cottage cheese, lentils, tempeh, veggie burgers, whole grains, etc.

Lean meats (chicken/fish) are healthy. I stay away from beef as much as possible; never was a fan but I eat it once in awhile.

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Johns Hopkins does not recommend no meat; their actual stance can be found here. (Sometimes, releases are attributed to certain institutions that really do not support their stance. This seems to be the case with what you read.)

Johns Hopkins: Nutrition|Weight Control on choosing lean meat

The article states:

meats get a bad rap, but when consumed in moderation they’re excellent sources of Protein and a variety of Vitamins and minerals like niacin, Vitamins B6 and B12, Iron, phosphorus, and zinc. But how exactly do you separate the fatty cuts of meat -- those with the most artery-clogging saturated fat -- from the lean? Here's advice from Johns Hopkins' nutritionists.

The U.S. food and Drug Administration (FDA) allows a cut of beef to be labeled as lean if it has less than 10 g of total fat, 4.5 g of saturated fat, and 95 mg of cholesterol per 3-oz serving (about the size of a deck of cards). Beef can be labeled extra lean if it has less than 5 g of total fat, 2 g of saturated fat, and 95 mg of cholesterol per serving.

Prime or Select?
The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), which creates the Dietary Guidelines and MyPyramid, also stamps beef products with quality grades that refer to tenderness, juiciness, and flavor, but don’t confuse use of the term "quality" with wholesomeness. While USDA Prime is the highest quality, the leanest cuts are USDA Select, so these are your best options -- they should have the least amount of fat "marbling" (fat distributed within the lean part) when you look at them.

USDA Choice cuts have moderate amounts of fat and should be purchased less often. USDA Prime cuts have the highest amounts of fat and are typically served in restaurants rather than sold at supermarkets. Ground beef is stamped with a percentage to indicate its fat content; choose packages that are 90% or more lean.

All pork sold to the general public is graded USDA Acceptable. (Unacceptable-quality pork, graded U.S. Utility, is not sold in supermarkets.) Today’s pork has considerably less fat than just 10 years ago, as a result of changes in the genetic makeup of breeding stock that produces leaner animals as well as more fat getting trimmed off in processing. Look for cuts that are firm and grayish pink, with a small amount of fat around the outside.

Normally only two grades of lamb and veal are available to consumers. Choose USDA Choice, which has slightly less fat marbling than USDA Prime. USDA Grade A is the highest grade of poultry and the only one you’re likely to find at a store; simply look for the best-trimmed products you can find. White-meat chicken and turkey with no skin remain your healthiest options, with only up to 1 g of fat per ounce.

Also keep in mind that within the various USDA grades of beef, lamb, and pork, certain products are FDA stamped as lean while others that contain more fat are not. So, even though you may be buying a U.S. Select piece of beef, you should still check to see that it says “lean” on the package, too.

The following are the leanest choices of meat and poultry, to help you make the best selections when planning your meals:

  • Beef:
    Round steaks and roasts (eye round, top round, bottom round, or round tip), top loin, top sirloin, chuck shoulder, arm roasts, ground round, and ground sirloin (at least 90% lean)

  • Poultry:
    Chicken, turkey, and Cornish hen with no skin (white meat is leaner than dark)

  • Pork:
    Tenderloin, center loin, pork loin, sausage with 1 g fat per ounce or less, and Canadian bacon

  • Lamb and Veal:
    Chop or roast

  • Sandwich Meats:
    Lean turkey and lean ham

Besides purchasing lean cuts, the way you prepare meats and poultry can help cut additional fat and calories. Trim off any visible fat or skin before cooking meats and poultry, and don’t dip them in batter or slather them in butter or creamy sauces. You should bake, broil, grill, roast, steam, or boil; don’t fry. Drain excess fat while cooking by placing the meat on a rack in a pan or by using a grill with a slanted surface to encourage fat drainage.

I notice that you've been told that nuts and nut butters are a good non-animal source of Protein. While they do contain some protein (and about an equal amount of carb), they should primarily be considered fats. (For example, Peanut Butter has about 4 grams of protein, 3 grams of carb, and 8 grams of fat per tablespoon.)

The fats are heart-healthy, and nuts/nut butters certainly can be part of a good, protein-rich diet, but they provide a big calorie bang for the protein buck, and probably should not be relied on too heavily, given that their calories come mostly from fat.

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I haven't eaten any meats that come from mammals (beef, pork, venison etc) for 18 years but I do eat boneless poultry and fish. I have been vegan, vegetarian and all other sorts of combos and find my current diet to be the best- I didn't even have a fatty liver when I was operated on :smile2: My fat was from my carb addiction!!! But since my meat eating is limited I do look for non meat sources here is what I found.

Obvious non meat choices are cheese and eggs (try sneaking them into things if you can tolerate them as the main dish) Also check out the vegetarian/health foods in the supermarket- plenty of "veggie" meat high Protein choices (at least where I live)

Other options: amounts can vary somewhat

Tempeh — 1 cup — 41 g

Lentils — I cup — 18 g

Chickpeas — I cup — 12 g

Tofu — 4 oz — 9 g

Peanut Butter — 2 tbsp — 8 g

Soymilk — I cup — 7 g

Brown rice — 1 cup — 5 g

Whole wheat bread — 2 slices — 5 g

Broccoli, cooked — I cup — 4 g

Avocado- 1 cup- 4.5 g

Peas- 3.5oz- 7 g

Yogurt-8oz- 7-13g (greek is higher)

Baked Potato- 8oz- 9g

List of High Protein Foods - food Exchange List for Proteins, Carbohydrates, and Fats - Zone Diet - Weight Loss

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I'm new bandster; thanks SO MUCH for the information on all the protein!

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