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I didn't think I was being subtle....How's this: I triple-dog dare you!

And, I'd like to add what a bummer it is that my brother isn't fat. WTH? Why didn't he have issues with food like I did? He had a chubby phase, then moved right along into adulthood w/no weight issues. Which reminds me...DH decided 2 weeks ago to watch his calories and dropped 10 pounds since then. WTH?!

Oh, Green...I'm really sorry for what you've been through lately. And, Kat, my meals were the same growing up. Mom always color-coded dinner. I guess she thought it was balanced, and really - according to old food pyramids, it was. Mom's and my issues were really deeper...my brother would come in to my room after she was asleep and tell me where she hid the goodies. Then he and I would eat them all. Her favorite spot, the dishwasher, lasted the longest as a hiding place. We weren't very helpful as kids and never did the dishes. She finally got wise and hid them in her room or in her car. Mom started hiding food when she was a kid. She and her sister would get a goody, and mom would hide it until her sister was done, then bring her food out to torture her sister with it. They laugh over stories like that now, but I kinda think it shows the sickness she had with food from an early age. And, of course I learned from her, and I'd hide food under my bed and eat it when everyone else was asleep. I always wondered why she didn't notice. But, then again, between my brother and his friends and me and mine, she probably thought we were all to blame. :eek: Eh! Why is food such an addiction!? DD and I were talking about her choices at school last night and she asked if she could get lemonade at school. I told her maybe on Fridays, but Mon-Thur get the milk or Water. I told her that this isn't about NEVER having these foods again, but not having them every day.

Wow...I'd LOVE to read that thread.

Okay, going off topic here - Anyone not getting email notifications? I haven't gotten emails from lbt in weeks. I have to log in and check my fav threads each day. Anyone else?

Kat, thanks so much! Your posts are always inspiring. :thumbup: DD and I just talked tonight about food choices, weight and diet. We watch Biggest Loser together and she has a friend that is her weight and on a diet. I told her we're not on a "diet"...we're trying to be healthy. I said, "It's not about the number on the scale. If we're eating right, that number will go down. But, it's more that we're eating the things our bodies need, and not too much of what it doesn't." And, as to what FairyFacade said above, it's 100% true: I don't have control over what she eats when she's not with me. And, I'm not sure it's just 2 pcs of toast...I have a slight feeling it's more. I know it's toast and apple juice. I'm not sure what else has been given that they're not telling me. So, another thing I said to DD was it's in her hands. That it's her choice to be healthy or not healthy. It's not going to happen overnight, but I think we're getting there. It was a wake up call for her that I did get so angry at mom for being the "food pusher" and maybe that impressed her a little. This week, we've gone to the gym in the morning together and she's made a great effort to eat fruit for Breakfast and her veggies at dinner. As for lunch...she struggles with school lunches. She'll get the sandwich and not eat the top part of the bun. So, I'm proud that she's making steps, and I've come to accept my own responsibility in this. Bottom line: I'm a fat mom, I was a fat daughter, and now my daughter is fat. It's not something I'm proud of...BUT. We are turning it around. As for mom...I don't have a lot of hope for her. She keeps 3 jars of candy by "her chair" and only gets up to go the bathroom. She's never been active, never eaten healthy and has been obese 1/2 her life. I'm just not sure I'll ever get through to her. I just need to get through to me and DD, and leave the past behind.

Thanks LJM! :bored: I did ask mom if she'd rather bring puzzles or something for them to do in common and she said, "I don't do it for bonding." Okaay. Then WHY do you do it? But, she ended up saying she agreed and she "got it" so, I'm relying on that.

You nailed it! It seems that they're at a crossroads now. The "fat buddy" thing may be the bond they had. Also, even though the silver team annoys me, the one that was at home has such good energy. Her, "C'mon now!" and "I'm doing this!" and "Watch out!" really gets me wanting to work out!

Oh, man! We were cussing out David left and right. I was annoyed by the green team at first (I think just the at home-whiny girl) but Tara kicks butt. I love that she chewed him out. I feel so badly for Dan, but he's lost 100+ so far. I think he'll be able to do it. David...sadly, he'll be one of the 50% that put it back on after the show - if he loses any more as it is. I was so sad last night. The silver team annoys the HELL out of me. I hope they get an attitude adjustment and just tone it down some. I am anxious to see how Carla (?) does now that she's back on the ranch...is she all talk, or will she really kick butt like she says? Still a good show, but overall I'm very sad that the kids that, IMO, needed it the most were sent home.

Two of past BF's like anal stimulation. I never thought either one was gay.

Yes! That's great! That would give DD something to focus on instead of food, and it would help the two of them bond. I will suggest that pronto to mommie dearest. Thanks!

Thanks, Green! I hadn't thought of the earn vs. bribe. :confused: I feel better. I did call my mother back (guilty conscience and all...) she said she was sorry, and could she bring apple juice or orange juice. I said no. Bottom line, I feed my kid. I think she just wants my daughter to love her - as someone mentioned earlier, she IS from that age where food = love and comfort. So, I understand where she's coming from, it just doesn't make it acceptable. I wonder sometimes what I'll do when DD has kids...I would hope I wouldn't cross her lines and piss her off.

Okay, am I horrible? I just promised my DD a laptop for her birthday in May if she stops eating whatever Grandma tries to give her, eat what I pack her for lunch every day, and Snacks on fruits or veggies after school. She agreed to it...I feel evil, though...I know how badly she wants that laptop.

I'm so excited for you! :w00t: Just a few more days...I can't believe it. It really shows the lack of life I have, that I remember your pre-pregnancy posts.... wow. I also gotta tell ya...I'm getting a little baby fever myself.

Thanks! I fought the urge to call her last night and apologize. She didn't call me, either. What really burned my butt is that I couldn't figure out how DD was gaining. We don't eat a lot on weekends, and she doesn't snack at home during the week. She lost nothing while on WW and I never could understand why.

My daughter is overweight, and we were told by the doctor to do low-card as much as possible. DD doesn't have diabetes, but is a likely candidate for it unless we change our eating habits. We let her have Cereal in the morning (the smart start oats kind, not lucky charms...) and then at dinner we have meat and veggies. Well, today I learned that my mother is bringing toast over in the mornings, after DH and I have left for work. I asked DD does she eat it, and she said yeah. Well, of course she will...SHE'S A KID! And, it's two pieces of TX toast, loaded w/butter (real). Mom knows that DD is "eating healthy" (not a diet) and she KNOWS it's lowcarb...I don't get it! So, I called her and yelled on her machine. She was out, and I just let her have it. Part of me feels guilty, the other part is applauding. Ugg. I just am so angry!!!! Why is she doing this? Why does she sneak my child food that she doesn't need? I yelled at DD, too. I asked why she thought eating TWO BREAKFASTS was okay? She just shrugged. I know it's not her fault for about 85% of it, but, like I mentioned to DD, I'm not there all the time and she knows what's healthy or not healthy. I know saying NO is hard, especially when the food pusher is sweet ole granny. I'm THIS close to cutting granny off.

Where was Dan during the temptation...does anyone know? I feel so bad for him...he really doesn't have the support at home. He needs it there. I agree that the silver team is annoying...I don't like either of them, but I like the one at home a lot better than Joelle. What was up with the black team not voting her off??? I thought no one liked her?

Ha! I like the one, and I'm paraphrasing since I don't remember word for word: Terrorists are smart; and so are we. Terrorists stay up all night wondering how to hurt America; and so do we!

True...I keep thinking, "What could anyone have said to get me moving...?" and the answer is always a shrug and I dunno. I want something to be the magic answer, but you're right...it's nothing external. I don't know this husband and wife's situation, but as for my friend I know I can just start taking a bunch of pictures of her. :scared2: I delete them at her request...but I'm thinking I'll start sending pics her way. "hey, look - it's us at the beach last summer!" THAT'S better than any conk on the head or threat.

You know, I don't have a problem with porn...I have watched it w/BFs and never had an issue - except with one. He would wake up in the middle of the night to watch porn while I slept. I was really bummed - I like sex, and wondered why he would do that - all the time - wihtout me.

The 5 Day Pouch test can be found here: Surgical Weight Loss 5 Day Pouch Test It helped me a little bit. I really needed to stick to it better. I ended up doing the liquid part longer and then over compensated later.

You are, of course, 100% correct. Like I said, I was just playing the devil's advocate, even though I do (absolutely) disagree w/threats. I would not have responded well to that demand, and he wouldn't have faired well after saying it to me. I would have walked away, not looking back....And, having the low image of myself that I did, I would probably have spiraled down even further into my ice cream bowl. Also, being stubborn like I am, I would have hated the lapband and not even considered it when I did get to the point of fixing myself. But. How do you approach the subject to someone that their weight is an issue? What if it is a big issue in the marriage? Is it divorce, or accept that your partner is overweight? Is there a medium ground? I have friends who married thin, he gained weight and she's upset by it. How do you "fix" that as a married couple? When you're married, or in a relationship and you gain weight, it's not just you that's effected. Is it vanity? Yeah, I think that's a large part of it, but, it's also a health/family issue. I'm not endorsing ultimatums or threats of any kind - ever. I can just sympathise with someone who does see weight as an issue - who has tried to help by eating right as an example, encouraging exercising, and has just come to their last straw.

I'll be researching it at home tonight...from my work computer - well, that may raise eyebrows in the IT watchdog office. :scared2: But, I assure you - 'tis possible. I've heard of people having orgasms by having their ears sucked on, which blows my mind.

Look, he'd better be the world's number one hottie, or else! I'm not saying I agree with what I wrote...It would piss me off beyond belief if DH said that to me. It's just my frustration w/my friend is making me see that sometimes being nice doesn't work. You gotta report back...I'm anxious to see what he's like.

Beats me! I have no idea HOW. :scared2: I'm not even sure why I even did it to begin with. I only have done this with 2 people, and it was over 12 years ago. First and best was w/high school BF, so I think I probably did it just to make him happy. Then, we broke up and the second BF and I did it a few times. Long term BF after that would tell me, "That's an EXIT!!" So, that was the end of that and the beginning of my 2 sided toy. I do remember looking it up in the library w/high school BF because I was scared of long-term effects. (Like, when I get older will I need to wear Depends? My main concern.) The book we read said it wasn't harmful as long as you're clean and don't go from there to the traditional way, and that it actually strengthens the muscles. I guess it just depends on the size. Like I said, HS BF was kinda on the small side, so I didn't feel it like a bowel movement. DH now would rip the hell out of me, so I don't even want it with him. Does that help you out a little?