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Karla - the reason he did it was cuz he though I wouldn't stick to my guns !!! You see I am not the most stick to it ness with my kids - I say no then give in when the battle gets to much - but on somethings I stand my ground and this dog issue is one of them... He didn't go to Janelle's last night - he is suppose to be moving to his Mom's today... It's and ugly little chichuai (sp) - He did apoligize - but still - I said no damn dogs - but I guess since I give in on most other stuff he figured he I would on this too.. I think he's a little hurt - said I was throwing him out I have only lived alone twice 1st time for about 9 months when my son was in placement and then after dh and I separated the 1st time and that againg was for about 9-10 months and I had Andrew & Kaitlin on the weekends and during the week. I am looking forward to it for the most part - you can run around naked.. I only have to shop and cook for 1 person - it may get lonely at times - well it's my time!! Linda - it's like I said - I usually don't stick to my guns - I am a terrible parent !!! Karla - OK I'd say this is a good thing - you don't have to deal with their $100K motor home in your yard and you don't have to deal with your Mother - I would say that's 2 good things. But they better send the $$$/gifts.. Ok dear I am ok -no need for tears - Can't wait for hair cut pictures !!! CONGRATULATION KARRI - !!!!! --------------------------------- Good Morning !!! Ok gang I got on the scale yesterday 143 - I guess my drinking on Friday & Satuday and Biscuts & gravy finally caught up with me and those little extra bites here and there I keep thinking I need a fill - ya my brain filled but they haven't invented a fill for it yet - oh ya right that brain surgery - I never got around to reading that... Well I need it .. So ladies - I'm here to tell you all I am totally back in the fricken LBT mode - no more bullsh*tting no more stupid freaking excuses !!! - No more extra bite of this or that - no more skipping my tuesday exercise... So watch out the sheriff is back in town !!!! I exercised Monday - Yesterday and I got up at 4:30 this morning and was at the gym by 5 - did 2.5 mile in 40 minutes - home showered and to work by 7:15.. I have gym tonite - Trainer - My new plan is to get up early at least 2 x a week and go in the morning and get a little extra excercise in. Last night I cut the rice from my dinner - fish & broc - one sf fudgesicle and 2 oz chicken breast and 6 walnuts. 8 oz light juice.. This is to fricken scary - I just keep imagining myself at 250 again ... So like I said - watch out cuz the sheriff is back on duty.. We can't get lazy - we can't keep making excuses - we gotta get this right - we can't go back to that ugly place we use to be - we gotta be strong !!!

Karla CONGRATS !!! WTG !!! Ruby Girl you gotta stick around !!! Ok - I am freaking pissed off - Andrew brought a dog home - i told him no more animals - his dad said that he could bring bear but andrew decided he wanted a new dog - HELL FREAKING NO - NO WAY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH AM I TAKING IN ANOTHER DOG - I DON'T CARE IF IT'S FOR ONE DAY OR 6 WEEKS - NO MORE ANIMAL!!! So he is moving out tonite.. to Janelle's and at this point I don't care - I told him yesterday - that he wasn't going to get another dog up there and then decide to come home and bring it - NO MORE ANIMAL'S !!! Oh I am so pissed off right now - he did a sloppy job painting - now I get to clean that mess up - oh I am so ready to live alone - well me and the 2 dogs and 1 cat

Karla - even during my weight loss phase I ate 1 to 1.5 cups of food per meal - it's all about your food choices. BF about a cup - Lunch a cup - dinner usually 1.5 cups No I have NO PAIN when I eat - you shouldn't have pain when you eat (granted if you don't chew or eat too fast you will - but if you follow banders rules you shouldnt) I rarely eat cheese I use to be a BIG cheese eater - cheese is very fattening and I don't really care for the non fat kind - everynow and then I will have grilled cheese 2% - but like 1 every 6 months - Cheese - using 1 tub of margine a week - Fired foods and large quanites of starches - sweets I really do eat low fat - limited sugar and starches... For me it's a treat to go eat mexican food - I love it for the cheese :0) I am one of those pple who beleives that we have to change the way we eat - alot of the banders say I didn't get banded to diet - I just want to eat smaller quainties of the food I already eat - Well for me it's about eating healthier - I still eat some of the foods I use to eat - taco enchillas biscuts and gravy - but these are now treats and only eaten occaissionally not daily - I haven't had a home made chip dripping in grease since being banded and I really don't miss them too very much :0) (corn tortilla fired ) On a weekend I would make bean dip (a large can or refried beans with a whole block of cheese - green onions and hot sauce) and home made corn tortilla chips - and I would eat it all weekend - loved it total comfort food. Now I use a one cup bowl add the green onion hot sauce and just 1/3 c of 2% cheese and count our 24 tostido's chips and enjoy .. Again this is not sometime I do often - (mayby 2 times since being banded) I don't justify eating high calorie foods with the amount of exercise I do - Exercise is not counted against what I eat -cuz I think this allows you to eat more 1200 calories less 300 calories totals 900 for the day - I didn't do that I ate 1200 and exercise was $$ in the bank for me and it worked for me as I never hit a plateu (sp) - I rather eat 4 oz of fish 4oz of rice and 4 oz of veggies (310 cal) instead of 17 tato chips l with 6 tablespoons of dip (approx 310 calories) - I am still a volume eater - I want the most amount of food for the least amount of calories...

Karla I don't order a drink when I am eating out. I might have an ice tea if it's to go so that I can drink it later. My instructions that I can't drink for 30 minutes. It takes pratice but I really don't think to much about it anymore and heck you save $1.99 + tax by not ordering a drink - I say just water and may have a sip or 2 before my meal How long ago did you eat - how long are you staying full. There is a big diff between being pouch full and still being hungry - I am that right now - my stomach is full - ate just a little chicken & veggie - my stomach is truly not hungry - but I am - I want to eat - I want to taste food .. That's why I got on the computer - to be distracted.. I have always eat at least 1 cup of food - if not 1 1/2 cups- for me I have to be able to satistfy my mental hunger as well as my stomach hunger - I don't want to live the rest of my life eating 1/2 cup of food - that's just not enough food imho but that's me - I personally think you are too tight and way to tight to be ordering a sandwich - I never order a sandwhich - you are not going to get enough protein before you are full or stuck on the bread.. Oh I take that back - On the cruise i had an egg salad sandwich but just ate the egg not the bread - they didn't have any food at this one snack place that would be considered band friendly.. ---------------------------------------------------- There are tons of post that werent' there when I posted this morning :0) Linda - my old neighbohood was sorta like that - well at least me and racheal my next door neighbor.. Sounds like you had fun and that's what counts Candice & Phyl - you both have great taste in clothes what can I say - Great pic's Candice - omg girl you change hair do's and color like I change shoes :0) Phyl - Have you tried the iced coffees - ff milk sf hazelnut and coffee $1.95 and it's good - I know that a light mocha frapachinnos small is like 90 calories... $7.50 omw that's hwy robbery.. Candice - We have Mermorial Day (those who have died) in May and Veterans Day (those that lived) in November - we love holidays - the more the merrier - New Yrs - President Day - Mermorial Day - 4th July - Labor Day - Vet day (well most of us don't get this day off) Thanksgiving Christmas but we do get off for Good Friday..

It's not good to puke with your band - that means you are not chewing - eating too fast - bping can cause your band to slip - so Don't say it's not a big deal cuz it is - it's not good.

love it - too funny and sadly too true !!!

Good Morning Gang !!! Happy Mermorial Day... Thanks to all the Men & Women who have fought for our WONDERFUL USA !!! Well, I've been up since 6:30 (no rest for the wicked :tongue:) been to the gym 4 miles - burned approx 500 if you beleive the machines... I am bbqing chicken - eggplant - corn on the cob - pinto beans - that's the menu for today - with cherries & watermelon for dessert... and just for me - Andrew will eat a piece of chicken - but none of the veggies.. Think I am staying home today.. I need a little r&r - well need to wash and iron but that's about it.. Phyl - Love your pictures on FB... They are really nice - looked at some this morning.. If anyone needs a farm hand let me know - I need the $$$ I'm broke :wink:

Well that makes me feel better !!! I'm not the only one :0)

I quit for 10 days prior to surgery - the day before surgery I smoked - I told them (the anathieoligist) when I got to the hospital - I still smoke about a pack a day - I got to my sweet spot in 2 fills - never had a problem related to my band nor healing after surgery I went to a PS and she told me it's not the smoke but the nicotine affects on your veins (healing after surgery) so you have to be total nicotine free for 30 days prior to surgery no patch no gum nothing - Well I haven't had PS yet.. You smoke 3 cigs a day - I don't think you will have a problem- but it;s up to your doc.. Ya I know I need to quit - and in time I will - I can only treat one addiction at a time As to the cocktails - High calories no nutrional vaule and your band isn't going to stop those at all - so becareful

OMG You all have been busy since I posted on Friday:eek: Prince concert good but they didn't do my Fav Song "When Doves Cry" Saturday dogs groomer - Yea groomer from their old beauty shop now works at my Petco - they look wonderful - I got my hair cut - bought wedding gift card - then home shower and went to Nephews wedding it was very was nice - reception good - was home by 8 (Debbie was tired - 2 nite out was too much for her but not me I could have gone for another couple hours the music was just getting good - lot of old school Food this weekend so far hasn't been bad - few drinks on Friday then out to BF afterward 2 eggs a couple bite of hash browns and too much biscut & gravey well about 3/4 of one biscut.. Then yesterday 2 beers - 3 oz of meat, mex rice & beans - a few chips and salsa - we left before the cake - which really was white frosted brownies - I would have been in hog heaven - came home and had some popcorn Andrew offered to go to the store with me today - I wanted to say are you sick you never want to go to the store with me - so we went to Target then Winco (food) I had steak & pasta for dinner - am full - haven't eaten my veggies yet.. Got a watermelon but haven't cut it yet - it's USA and not mexico - lets hope its good and Cherries - I love cherries.. Ya right darling - you kick my A$$ in the exercise department.. I have never had a smores !!! Yea !!!! Yep when we book those tickets theres no backing out !! Kari - Hugs GF - I am sure glad you are feeling better these days - how sad.... I guess cuz I have to go to work I haven't ever gotten that blue - maybe once or twice I called in for a couple of days - but there was usually a cause to my depression - breakups etc.. OMG - Kids are so immature these days !!!! I know we weren't like that - serioulsy !!! Karla - I have realized that I have totally forgotten how to flirt or even talk to a guy!!! This would surpirse some of my friends to hear me say this today - I use to think I was all that and a bag of chips at 180-190 and didn't think twice about picking up a guy.. Linda- You still have to live life and enjoy yourself - so don't sweat it - tomorrow is another day (well this is a holiday weekend - so drinks are allowed ;0) Ya Candice we are all going to do our share at Hotel McIntyer !!! OK - That's being said right now... You are putting us up so - you have to allow us to do stuff to repay you for opening your house to us !!! Candice - 1/2 is better than nothing !!! Karla - Ya I love it !!! You have all the right in the world to brag !!!! Great idea on the funs - tell everyone that - donate to your cruise fund Darling - I still take one bite to many - did it friday nite with my biscut & gravy - Those are the times that I have a love/hate relationship with my band for doing it's job :thumbup: and stopping me from eating... I WANT A PIC OF THE TATTOO !!! Welcome home - I've seen the pic's while I was Andrew Farming this morning - they are great - some great ones of you and Earl... - Ha ha Earl 9 lbs !!!! You only 2 WTG !!! I wonder why you are tight since you got home - the stress of getting home - hating to get of the ship and going back to our normal life :0) Denise - OMG Girl - you gotta get out of that school - can't you transfer somewhere else - Hugs Hugs Hugs... I LOVE THE IDEA OF GOING OUT OF NEW ORLEANS !!!!! YES LETS DO THAT !!!!! KARI - HAVE YOUR DAUGHTER CHECK THOSE CRUISE PLEASE!!!! 4 DAY CRUISE AND 2 DAY IN NEW ORLEANS Steph - I remember you telling us about your room last summer while we where at MofA :lol:- when you talk about cleaning it - I just smile -:w00t::glare: Tomorrow - having bbq chicken corn on the cob and I made a pot of pinto beans.. Yea no work tomorrow - get to sleep in - going to the gym in the a.m. - it's closing at 5 so not trainer tomorrow - I guess we will be making up the lost day during the week... I have been drinking ice tea - so maybe I'll be up past 9:30 tonite :0) I don't have to get up at 5 yea!!!

Oh ya I forgot I have a partner in crime in the bad department (smoking :party:) - I had a love boat romance on my very 1st cruise back in 93 !!! We will have to figure out the do not distrub thingis - I gotta say on this last cruise didn't meet any of the cabana boys that rocked my world or that were freindly but again - it was cold on deck and I never made the disco - It will be great if we can put this together - cuz my 18's were boring on this last crusie.. Karri - This is when I eat what others are eating for the most part - as you state even the "normal" pple go hog wild in their eating during these kind of trips.. That is normal -planed treats - what isn't normal and what we can do is continue to eat that way once we get home - which you really know that you won't do cuz you don't have that kind of junk in the house - So Mommy advice is go with the flow and take some healthy snacks that everyone will enjoy - those toastedos (sp) bite size chips - you get like 24 for 140 calories - that and some salsa is great.. Jerkey is another packable good food choice What are pple taking that you are worried about?? Plus since I'm a closet eater I can pretty much control my eating around others - it's when I have the sweets and I am alone that's the problem... But around others I am really good about showing control - and it all goes to the fake it till you make it - not that I don't want that second helping of mac salad or another piece of cake - but pple are so impressed by my weight loss that - that in itself is enough for me to stay in control on the portion size. And if I over do it on a weekend away - I know that come Monday I will be back in control.. I guess I allow myself weekend party eating and don't fret too much - but you all know that I did fret prior to my cruise but I think that pre-fretting helps you stay in control once you are doing your activity - On my cruise I had dessert - I had cookies - but I took the stairs - I exercised and I didn't over do it at at meal time. Portion on cruise menus are great. Linda - Thanks - I don't know what I say that was so right - I talk plan old talk that I think we all relate to... :thumbup: I am glad to hear that you are feeling better - I know how much you miss your kids. I love that mine are growing up (heck for Joseph who will be 38 in July it's taken awhile and Andrew - My baby ready to spread his wings) ----------------------------------------- Ok Phyl should be back tomorrow or sunday - gotta ck to see how many pages we have done while she was away....

Kari - I;m with you on the fickleness of my band right now - I will get full fast sometime - but it's not lasting more than 1/2 hr.. And ya the head hunger too.... Mexico sounds good - Spring Break next year for our teachers or after schoold gets out in June.... Say 6/15 - I think everyone will be done by them I'll vote for phyl - I know her and earl would go - Linda LOVES mexico... Candice too - You Me Karla Denise & Karri - don't know who would be taking their dh's - I would like a baloncy room since as I right now I'm still smoking -

Karri - Yep you do get mad at us :smile2: cuz we are alway harping on you and what you are eating :thumbup: calorie wise - but its was cuz you said you didn't have the energy you needed to do your training and girl you exercise ten time harder than the rest of us... That's all - 1100 well you know what you can get alot of food in for the but heck running for 4 miles burns how many calories (what did your body bug say) but anyway - and I don't think that we got that your 1100 calories was your verision of the 5 day pouch test and then you reviewed what you are doing and decided ya I may need to up my calories to 1500. I really thought you had more restriction than you do - cuz you know how you are with fills. So I apolizied for getting your dander up :w00t: but I just want to make sure that you eat enought to be able to train like you want to.. You k now what this is no diff than Candice's Dh telling her not to eat ice cream - we know that you know what's best for you - I promise no more advice till you tell me you are eating candy ok :0)..Hugs Baby Girl.... :mad2: And it's ok to tell us to step off - back off and to get mad - we all do it at times :laugh: Hope you got to run - that would help with all the crap that's going on at school... Those endorphine to help with our moods... and getting rid of all that pent up frustrations that we have with our jobs.. And us bossy Mom's on LBT:wink: Steph Ok pick on you time - bread & soda :0) My food today Bf Pear 100 cal & WW string cheese 50 cal Lunch: 1.5 cup Chicken Soup made with 1/2 red potato carrots zuchinne cabbage - 250 Cal Snack: WW string cheese 50 cal & 14 tostido chips 130 cal with El Pato Dinner - Fish 150 cal - asparuguss 40 cal - Rice 120 cal Liquids - 2 16 oz coffee - 1 16 oz Ice tea and 1 16 oz watet Snack tonite - Popcorn 100 - Watermelon 100 - SF pudding w/walnuts 160 - 16 oz cran/grap juice 80 3 miles - burned 386 calories did 15 incline at 2.5 speed for 3 songs and the rest of the walk was 6 incline at 3.5 speed.. and jogged for 1 short song... Candice - I Dianna talking to you again... Karla - How's your day going... Linda - did you get to take Cora for a walk... Kari - How are you doing with your soda issues... Denise - You !! how are you while I was on the treadmil tonite - I was thinking have you been doing yours :0)... Did you go get that permanet marker and write your Mom's name on her clothes... Well, gotta ck andrew's dinner - burritos - well all I had to do is cook the meat...

Dr Bobby is really located in Palms Springs, CA You want a Doctor who will actual sit down and talks to you. You want a Doctor who has a whole team ready to help you (scheduling - insurance approval - nutrition) Then go see Dr. Bobby !!! He's the greatest !!!!

Kari - Yes Girl you are doing your part :0) for Phyl Yep have your DD look into it - it would be so much fun... Your walk - 2.5 miles in say 50 minutes is a 20 minute mile which is very good as you haven't done alot of walking but mostly peddleing in the last 2 yrs.. How was your knees ?? Just get out and do more walking now that the weather is getting nicer... Karla - you are a teacher and still have to pay that much for your girls - and if they stay in school he doesn't have to continue to pay support., Candice - that was a whole control issue "you can't tell me what to eat or not eat - I'll show you - I'm going to spite you and eat the GD stuff" Well ya you ate it - but does he know - did it hurt him - what did you show him - what did you prove... Please don't anyone tell me what I can or can't do - cuz I will do the exact oppisite.. So I totally get it - we rebel but the only person we are hurting is us. So next time he says "don't go eating this or that" say "Oh go jump in a lake Peter - I'm grown and I can make my own choices - If I choose not to eat Ice Cream - it's going to because I don't want to and you telling me not to isn't necessary" Linda have fun with DD - We are glad you are back!!! I am getting jazzed about our upcomming trip !!! -------------------------------------------- Good Morning !!! It's Thrusday only 1 more day and then a 3 day weekend - I made my ck soup last nite - will have that for lunch - got chick marinating for bbq chick this weekend.. Happy that Kris won last night !!! Am tired this morning - stayed up too late - and am going to gym tonite (it's my normal night off) but I may not make it Saturday morning - depending on Friday Nite :mad2:

Karla are you serious that pple don't get pain meds for their animals - that's down right STUPID.. I have my little Angel, Bear & Sheba - they are my babies.. I remember after us kids left my Dad & Mom got 2 dogs - and I thought it was so funny how they were their babies - Well we do become our parents - I think it's an age thing... I had animals before and I loved them - but it's diff now.. Steph you made me tear up on this post - We are such a family here - Can you all beleive how much of a family we have become in the last 2 yrs.... 5/14/07 is when I first posted on LBT - and you guys are all the reason I still post - I couldn't live without you all. It's like we have known each other all our lives.. We tell each other things that we don't tell our other friends (well at least I do ;0).. #1 We can't let others make us feel guilty for their problems and we have to accept that we don't own their problems - the only pple we can fix is us. We are all co-dependant to a certian degree - we all are enablers - we all want to fix others problems - but we have to accept that we can't.. That is one of the greatest things I learn "who owns the problem" you or the other person.. That's not to say that even though I know this - do I alway pratice it :smile: But I do my best.. What happend Girl !!!! I guess Dirty Dianna won today - you gotta kick that girl to the curb... Karri Mommy is talking here ok - You need fuel to have the energy to exercise - that fuel has to be good clean food - and you know this cuz you are the scienist - so don't let the calories get in the way - that's not to say you need to eat 3000 in one day thinking that's fuel - but you do need the clean foods to provide the fuel to work your muscles.. You may need to add a couple hundred on your run days - you will burn them.. ===================================== Ok back from the gym - legs tonite - but my trainer just broke up with his GF and he was doing more talking about that and justifing it than making us work... I did work but felt the distraction - but that's ok - I still worked up a sweat... I'm going out Friday nite - Rock Yard (open air free concerts - remember I went last yr quite a bit) they are door bands - no it's another name - copy cat kind of bands - this week - Prince - Debbie and I are going - and maybe another gf - and I invited Idrise (my trainer) and Vicky my workout partner... Saturday - Babies go to the beauty shop 9 - I get my hair cut @ 9:30 and Wedding at 2 - reception at 5 - (my nephew (step) is getting married) So 2 party nites and 2 days to recover since I don't work on Monday :0) Well better go ck my soup... Love to my girls - I really really do love you all - Janet:wub: P.S. - I may be posting at midnite !!! Had a cup of coffee when I got home from gym - want to stay awake for Idol.... Yes I am a TV Addict too :mad2::tt2:

heniser2 The decision is yours to make - you don't need approval from anyone else. #1 What is her reason for her not wanting you to be banded. #2 10 pple she works with had it done and they haven't had much luck - it the hospitals fault??? Darling there is no luck involved in any weight lost surgery or diet period. No WLS is the magic cure all answer to our issues with food. It's all about the work of changing your eating habits and exercising - the Band or any WLS for that fact is just a tool - a little helper - to make you feel full on a smaller portion of food. It doesn't make your food choices for you - it doesn't exercise for you and it doesn't do a darn thing about our head hunger which manifest itself into what we think is true hunger - the majority of our eating issues are mental not physical - and too - Food is our drug of choice - we are food addicts. Losing weight is simple math - calories in vs calories burn - Eating healthy for the rest of your life - this is where the lifestyle change comes in - Our eating normal is what got us fat in the first place - we eat high fat - tons of sugar and starches... Eating healthy is low fat - low sugar - and limited carbs/starches It all depends on how you use your tool - it depends on how bad you want it and for some no matter how bad they want it - they can not overcome their addiction to food - so they blame the band for not working (goes to haven't had much luck with it) I was 52 when banded - I lost 105 lbs in 1 yr 1 week and now my body is at it's happy weight (total lost 112lbs) I will tell you this - luck wasn't involved - it was me losing that weight - I did 75% of the work by changing my eating habits and adding exercise into my life - the band did the other 25% by providing restriction. I was lucky to be at my sweet spot by my 2nd fill - For others it takes longer. But regardless, it just a tool - a little helper. I could eat around my band if I choose to - candy Cookies ice cream - the band doesn't do a darn thing about stopping you from eating those foods. But try to eat 8 oz of steak - a big mac and fires - Heck no - it will stop you.. Keep on researching - keep reading pples post - talk to your surgeon and other bander's and you will come to you own decision if this is the right surgery for you.. Good luck on your journey.... I wish you the best...

My fish isn't dry - it's good - I have been eating it for 22 months :cursing::cursing::cursing: - so you will get that one night :cursing: I am starving right now myself... I am getting to the point that I think I may need a tweek - not cuz I'm hungry - just cuz - I am not getting the restriction - I am usually pretty full after my fish - then wait a bit to eat my veggies & rice but last night ate it all right a way - I was physically full but as usual not mentally - then woke up with feet/ankle crams - I got all my water yesterday - so it wasn't that - I had a 8 oz of OJ then took a potasium (sp) pill - but I eat spinach and I thought that had potasium in it.. Yep strenght training is a must - the stronger your core and leg muscles the better you can run... Heck my balance sucked prior to my weight training - it has improve 100%.. My trainer says to eat complex carbs about 45 minutes prior to working out... so when I get home - I will have 1/2 of a pt bar or fiber bar.. I have legs tonite - and I am still a little sore from Saturdays workout - Lungs - omw - the butt - if you guys want to work your butt - do lunges... Food today - Pure Protein Bar for BF - One pot wonder for lunch - dinner - I think I'm making ck soup - a lady here at work has been sick (she single like me and doesn't really have anyone to take care of her - well she does have 2 daughters and they are great -but you know what I mean) and she's a really good friend - truthfull and honest - I just love her.. she said she was coming in tomorrow - so I thought I might make her some ck soup for lunch - heck it's quick and easy... - so I will either have that or my left over fish for dinner... Well we have Idol tonite - I poor Phyl - she's missing it !!!! I may ck in quickly - but between gym - going to the store and making my soup and tv --- I might not make it back.. So if I don't have a good evening... Ruby - where are you girl !!!! Come on you can't quit on us...

Nope Linda never heard of it - but will go ck it out now - the one self help book i read a long long time ago was "women who love too much" OMG that book was such an eye opener.. Linda - how precious she is - Your Cora is beatiful !!! Love those eyes... And no you aren't an obnoxous Grandma, just like when our children were born they were the smartest - cutest etc - it's the same way with grandbabies - I remember when Andrew was 5 months old bringing him tot he office and showing everyone his little frog leap - he leaped just like a frog and you have to understand this was a kid who had a cast on his foot since birth due to his club foot.. Karla - NEVER apoligize for non-band stuff cuz there is no such thing on this thread - all these things that happend to us in our lives is what makes us who we are and why we it - it's all related - cuz imho our eating problems are really mental and not physical... Candice - CAFFINEE~~~ Steph - Hugs GF - Glad she's coming - and as far as your mom going off and drinking that's her problem not yours - you don't own that one she does - if you went and ate cuz she made you made is that her fault - Nope you own that one - Kick Jeff in the butt and tell him he need to be there for his stepson... Becareful - cuz I think for all of us being tired is a big food trigger for us. For the last couple of days - I have been thinking I needed a tweek - well lunch (could have been that I ate a little fast) I find out that I still have restriction - but then the 2nd half went down with no problem (pork zuchinee rice in tomato sauce. Oh ya - I remembered somthing from my post that went to the twilight zone Do you like fish???? Linda - We missed you too... Love your new picture remember gang increase your fonts so Phyl will have tons of pages to catch up on - :cursing:

:cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing:WTF :cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing: I posted last night !!!! I am pissed this morning - I stayed on the computer just so that I could post - while Idol was on - I got off at 8:30... Oh I am mad this morning !!! Well, let it go Janet - what did I say ??? Well, I'm brave right now about Andrew moving - a little releived of not having the responsiblity of worrying 24/7 about him - not that I won't while he's gone - but now his Dad will have that pleasure - and you know what just as I get use to him being gone - he could come back... I had a hard time with my workout yesterday too - after 2 miles I wanted to say enough - I was sweating like a pig and I only walk - but had it on incline of 6 the whole time going up to 10 a couple of time. Karla - did you ask me if my trainer was cute - ya he is - x-body builder - but a really nice guy - I had a crush on him in the beginning - but now I know him and consider him a good friend.. Candice - good on the exercise and great that you couldn't eat the whole burritto - what were you thinking - France in 1 month.. I wonder what Phyl is doing - how much shopping has she gotten done with Earl around.. Ok - that's about it - oh ya what I ate yesterday watermelon cheese cracker (3) ck & broc and tablespoon of rice fish rice spinach popcorn sherbet cone. All my water - but woke up last night with ankle/feet crams - took some potassuium since I got my water in it wasn't that.. was up from like midnite to 2 :cursing: Oh ya Mom issues - well my mom favored the boys more that us girls - but gotta say my dad was pretty even handed with all of us - he allowed me a little more leway (sp) but I was more responsible than my bros But why did/do I over eat - Comfort/soothing my Mom was a bit mean at times - she had some mental issues - had me on diet at the age of 8 - I think that's what made me a closet eater... Ok thats it in a nutshell - oh ya Karla - ground turkey cooked real fine spah sauce a little riccotta cheese - good protein... Ok it's almost 8 my boss is back from vacation so I better get my butt in gear cbl and hope this friggin post - post !!!

I HAVE MADE MY RESERVATIONS FOR CANADA!!! Arrive @ 5:36 P.M ON 7/23 (Thrus) and Leave Monday 7/27 @ 8:45 A.M. Linda - I am both happy and sad with Andrew moving - It's a very good thing - there is nothing here in the Valley and I think it's great that he is going to his Dad's - Plus Joseph has been missing him terribly and keeps talking about moving back and they can't do that (I feel he would go back to his old ways and Melissa wouldn't feel safe) And now I know that Andrew really loves me - cuz he cried and said I was home to him... You know teenagers they don't show the affection that they did when they were 3 and idolized us :purplebananna: I have lived alone before for about 1 yr - but did have the kids (andrew & kaitlin) during that time cuz Melissa went to school and I watched them after work twice a week - but now it will be just me Angel & Sheba - he says he's taking Bear.. He even asked if I would be ok - I told him don't worry about me - I will be ok - it's time for you to live your life ... But I will be crying my eye out on 7/28 !!!! But like I have told him - the room is always there for him - so it will be a learning experience for both of us... Karri - Yep - not much longer !!!! I have looking so forward to our time together !!! Ok it took an hour to make reservations - I gotta get to work. xoxox Janet

OMW you all have been busy today... Linda welcome back !!!! Ruby - Congrats on your 2lbs :purplebananna: Candice - I have a little problem you must have missed that post yesterday around 8 - Andrew is moving out that weekend - he's moving to his Dad's I am going to have to talk him in to waiting until Tuesday to move - he's taking Bear - but I have Sheba & Angel and so I have to talk him in to holding off on leaving the 25th.. Karla - I think you are too tight - you need to make an appointment with the new guy and til you go actually see him you aren't his patient... I don't get the fact that you can drink water like you do - Eat some soup - refried beans - add some water to make them creamer and a little cheese - Hugs about the job issues - Karri - I remember making those pizza's in 8th grade - they were good - infact we had them at someone slumber party.. Kari - No Soda !!! Ok gang - I'm hungry - it's 7:30 and need to go cook - CBL

OMW - I posted yesterday morning - But I don't see it... Went to the outlets didn't get home till 8 - then today was out of the house by 9 didn't get on the computer cuz when I do I don't get anything done - and OMW - Stuff is hitting the fan !!! Karla - Below you posted about the business - well you might not be able to buy this one but doens't mean that there won't be another opporturnity - put $25 a week in a savings account for your start up $$$ ... Kari - I have been using AOL Desktop and I can't find my smiles - If I go to the aol mail one - I can - but I like the desktop better - but I will insert some for Phyl - but since I quoted these big post I won't on this one.. Limited down loads WFT = what's that about - what are you down loading I would call and get that straighted out.. Ya out trip doesnt have to be july - we will figure something out... Karri - I saw on FB where you had the nets and not tent... Yep no longer a pansy !!! Did you know it was going to be that cold - how cold was it = Ya I forget that other places aren't 78 at night in May... Steph - Glad your speech went well.. See what did I tell you - Things have a way of working themselves out for the best - I am happy that they did so fast - and yes - I will come and beat them all up for you :0) Steph - I can't beat what Karri has said - it's so true and it's the I'm still at a better place than I was 2 yrs ago mentallity - the combination of the 2 - You aren't the lone ranger here - Karri - Ruby - Kari - Karla -Denise- Candice You and yes me - I think we are totally out of the honeymoon stage - and feel good about where we are at - and are allowing more treat - and then once that happens it a down wards sprial.. Then you pull yourself up but then you fall right back down.. There is no recovery without a relapse - so I love your renewed committment with starting the 5 day pouch test as you are back on the road to recovery.. 1 day at at time - but I still want you to get the junk out of the house - No one needs it and you don't need the temptations - Food is ours drug of choice remember we are food addicts - Would your family leave a bottle of booze on the table if you were an alchie - nope - so get your triggers out of the house.... Karri - you are so elequonte (sp) I know those words are from your heart - I am going to go look for that song.. As to the punishment thing - I know that's why I stayed in abustive relationships with my Son's dad - Meaness = love - That's what I got from my mom - that's all I deserved - that was my life - I totally get it.. Kari - I thought it was diet soda - but you are drinking regular soda :w00t: 200 empty calories per soda.. Read Karri's post again - throw the crap away - and quit punishing yourself.. [/url] Karla it's cuz chicken doesn't have any sugar or carbs that's why that's why we don't crave celery - we crave starches - sugar 99% of the time - Ok gang - it's 8:36 and I need to eat - I have jury duty tomorrow - so I may not be on til evening... Oh ya at the outlet yesterday I got a Coach purse for $119 - originally priced $328... Also, I have a little blip - that I gotta figure out how to handle - Andrew is moving - found out that he really loves me cuz he was crying about it - he knows he should leave so that he can get his crap together without distractions - but I'm home for him- (steph our kid's really do love us even though they don't show it) well he's moving 7/25 - I'm suppose to be in Canada then - and was leaving him to babysit the dogs (he's taking bear leaving angel & sheba (kaitlin is allergic) But it will all work out - his Dad is very happy - Me - mixed - I think it's the best thing for him as there isn't much here and I wish I had left yrs ago.. but omw - my baby is going... Ok I gotta get off the computer Also gang we need a big group hug - we aren't alone in this battle - I was lurking on the April 07 thread the other day and there are tons of pple there struggling too... But with the love and support of each of us - we will win this battle... Group hug :cool::grouphug::mad2::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::eek::grouphug::mad::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

PHYL BON VOGAGE !!!! HAVE FUN !! and remember after our MofA trip Steph had to buy another suitcase to get home and I came with an empty one for just that reason - room to bring home all the stuff I bought - I was lucky my suit case weighed 48 lbs - and 50 is the limit for the airplane without being charged more - cruise ships as far as I know don't have that limitation (weight) yet :0) Candice - glad no dessert - you know what I did once when I had gf over for dinner - I bought 1 piece of lemon cake (the sell individual pieces at my Fresh & Easy and it had the least amount of calories) and I halfed it - so we each had a little dessert without being bad.. And yes those fiber one bars and protein bars can be very dangerous - I have them for bf at work most day - they aren't sitting around my house - infact the other day in the afternoon I was hungry - ate 1/2 of one then threw the rest away before I ate it all so 75 cal instead of 150 !!! Kari - I don't know how you lived w/o high speed before :0) - I guess we all have to take laptop to Candice's so that we can do our farming while we are gone that week :0) Karla We have talked about a lucky 7 cruise - but the problem is July is hurricane season - plus it's HOT AND HUMID in Mexico that time of year and you pple from the colder climates would absolutly die - I went to Mex 3 yrs ago in June - it was so humid - which wasn't that bad if the ocean hadn't been so hot - it's doable for me - but I am use to heat - we can plan it for next year or do it maybe ealier - and really I think most hurricanes hit mexico more in Sept... I have a gf on my mentor thread who can't eat in the morning at all and by night can eat 10 oz steak. This is one of the problems with the band - The reason we chew so well is so that we can eat more than 1/4 of a cup and so that we don't get the iron fist in the chest feeling or bp period. IMHO we have to eat more that just 1 or 2 oz of protein - I like being able to eat 1 to 1.5 cups of food and feeling full - I could not survive mentally eating only 1/2 cup per meal - That iron fist is not being full but being stuck for me - I don't think the iron fist feeling is good for the band.. I gotta say that my diet consist of softer foods - but again I can eat bread which is hard for most banders - my dil left bagels here - i pulled of a quater of one (they were the small ones 120 cal for the whole thing) put a little cream cheese on it - it went down no problem - guess where the bagels are now - in the trash !!! Restriction is hard to get use to - eating a small amount of food is hard to get use to mentally... but again that's the reason for the band is to eat a smaller amount of food - but you have to be able to eat enough hard protein for your head and to lose the weight - or you will eat around your band (slider foods). I really think you may be too tight since you couldn't eat a hard protein dinner - what did you try to eat ?? Yep our brains want wafles more than they want fruit - that's always been our problem... That's what we have to retrain... Steph - Yep we all could go ziplinig !!! I would do it again !!! Good luck w/your speech today - you will do fine once you get up there... Ok gang - I came home last night ate popcorn watched my soap (All My Children) a major person is getting killed off and it's who done it cuz everyone wants him dead. Well then fell asleep after it - I haven't been sleeping well lately waking up 3 - 4 times a night - yesterday my siatic (sp) was hurting and lately in the morning when I wake up my lower back is killing me - but once i'm up and moving it's fine. I last night I wanted to main line some sugar so I could sleep - but had some tyenol & liquid gold instead - only woke up 2 times and I went to bed at 9 - but was up at 5 - it's 6 24 right now started this post before 6 :scared2: I have gym this morning but with trainer for legs - then when I go to gf house to pick her up to go shopping she has one of those hang upside down machines - I think I am going to try it for my back... Ok everyone increase their fonts and get chatting so PHYL will have ton's of pages to catch up on :tt2: Will cbl :wub:

Mjacot That's head hunger talking to you and no matter how much fill you have it's not going away. I am physically full after I eat my dinner every nite - but mentally I am still hungry - cuz as I just said I am physically full I can't eat anymore as my pouch is full - so if you are physically full how can you be hungry - it's our heads talking to us. !! Growling stomach doesn't mean you are hungry - it means you are digesting your food. " I am hungry and hear my stomach growling but to restricted to eat more -" This is the purpose of the band it's suppose to stop you from eating more - You new full ( pouch full - can't eat any more) is totally diff than our old full - and it takes awhile to figure it out..