DeLarla

Geeze, Megan, you might want to come to Vegas a whole week early. We've got some talking to do! Whoosh, that's intense. This thread is so interesting because so far, we are all overweight for different reasons, although Megan seems to be the only one so far with my problem. This is too much for me to digest now since I'm at work, but I'll be studying this thread a lot.

Uht oh, I'm Lilac Brodderick. That's pretty scary since Betty Brodderick remind me of my insane mother.

Oops, when I said, "Donali's post" I meant the article you shared, not your post. Sorry 'bout that. And I don't necessarily disagree with it, I just think it needs a lot more work. Yes, I have a disease, I'm just not sure that the disease is Morbid Obesity. I think the obesity part is a symptom of the disease. I call mine OCOD (Obsessive Compulsive Overeating Disorder.) So I am in agreement to a certain degree, I just think the subject needs a lot more research into categories. "The fact that the band turned off a lot of that "eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat..." chatter seemed evidence to me that at least part of my problem is physical." I am completely different, because the Band did not turn off the chatter. The chatter won't shut up, it never does. It starts after work and gets louder and louder till I finally fall asleep, which is why the problem isn't physical for me. For me it's 100% mental. One thing we can agree on is that we are sick, that's not debatable.

So what your saying is that I don't have to start counting calories till after you leave? Woo hoo!

Nancy, thanks for the comment from your dietician that said it takes a "good year" to get healthy eating habits under control. I hurt my band this week (ate the most since banding.) I hope I didn't do any damage, but I don't have my eating under control yet. While I don't completely agree with Donali's post about "MO being a disease" I can agree that whatever is wrong with us controls me (just me, I'm not talking for anyone else.) I have zero control over my thoughts at night. Sometimes I have moments when I fight the thoughts, but most of the time the thoughts are stronger than I'll ever be. I personally think there are several categories of morbidly obese people. Many people here were thin growing up, so their mind has been programed as a thin person in the past. I don't think it's fair to lump them in with someone like me who weighed 175 as a child. I've been fat my entire life. I can't agree with Donali about the Band helping me overcome my condition, either, since my hunger is hardly ever in my belly - it comes from the voices in my head that tell me to eat regardless of PBs, golfballs in my throat or fear of stretching my pouch. Donali never got full without the Band, but I would be stuffed to the gills, barely breathing. So I think there's lots of different categories, and until each category is broken down, there's really no way to determine the cause or diagnosis. I do agree with a lot of that very big and colorful post about our disease, but I can't grasp it entirely because MY personal eating disorder is not physical whatsoever, it's all in my head. When I eat decent meals and feel satisfied, I lose weight, and I'm never physically hungry. I could eat pizza for Breakfast, tacos for dinner and loaded nachos for dinner and a cup of Ben & Jerry's for a snack at night and wear size 12, but I can't control my portions cuz my head tells me to eat 4 times the amount.

As of today I am counting calories. If Babs can lose over 100 pounds, then so can I, rigth? She counts calories so I want to follow her lead. Babs, you are my guiding light. I don't want to go over 1000 calories a day. However, I don't count vegetables, which will add several hundred calories.

Donali, you reminded me of something awful! I was at the grocery store a couple years back looking for milk and yogurt, and I kept hearing moo and oink noises. At first I thought I was imagining it, but then I realizes someone on the other side of the freezer was watching me (you know how the freezers are two sided so they can load it from the warehouse?) First I almost cried, but then I stormed up to the manager in front of the whole store and let loose. I demanded the person be fired, and the people in the store all backed me up. Wow, what an awful memory. I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I think this is good therapy. You have to remember it, accept it, say it, then let it go for good. Bye bye bad memories.

Megan, I know you are on line so why are you ignoring my PMs? Sorry for the hijack folks, just doing a lil on-the-side detective work. Penni, this one's FUNNY!

Okay, it's not Friday but I'm feelin' spunky so I can't wait. If we can't laugh at our problems, we'll just cry, so what were some of the names you were called and/or things kids did to tease you growing up? Me: PahPahPahPiglett Fatty Fatty Two By Four Can't Fit Through The Kitchen Door You:

Leatha, I swear, I'm not kidding.

For as long as you have your port. Sorry, bad joke. Ignore me.

Hey, I'm the one that got yelled at by Donali! But I don't let it get to me. Some days it's fun to come here, other days there's lots of disagreements. I'm pretty miffed myself about certain LBT issues, but we always come back and laugh in the end, right? Hubby mentioned a full moon, could it be?

I wish my name was Ana. Then I could be Bandana.

I was wrong. I stand corrected. Donali's post is correct, and I am sorry. I allowed a doctor to make me feel like I was making excuses, and I even argued with him till I allowed him to win. He won and now I'm preaching his word, so instead of editing my comment, let me apologize and correct myself here: We are all morbidly obese, year round. Our disease does not ebb and flow with the tides, and it doesn't go away when the sun shines. And Donali yelled at me. Ouch!

Knee highs, ankle socks, scrunchy socks, booties, slipper socks, toe socks. Gee, this was an easy thread.

Barbara, I'm drinking another bucket of water in your honor. Anyone care to join me? Cheers!

Okay ladies, how much did you weigh last summer, and why are there obese people in Florida? Tons of them.

Betty, if that were the case, we'd all be skinny all summer long and only fat in the winter. I'm fat year round, every year. I weighed over 300 pounds last summer, and last winter, and the summer before that.

I second Betty. Try some cream soup. It saved me during those days.

Penni, that's too deep for me.

Actually, Betty, I was using the excuse of rain to eat also. I was also using the excuse of boredom, lonelines, happiness, stress. But a very wise doctor pointed out that skinny people stay skinny year long, regardless of rain, snow and boredom, while Morbidly Obese people stay fat all year long by using excuses. Trust me, I hated that he told me that, but he's dead on correct. Rain doesn't have anything to do with the fact that I'm overweight.

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If anyone pokes you in the port, poke them back! Mike, men are really lucky cause they tend to drop weight so much faster than women. You should do really well since you're so active with all that wrestling. And I've never heard one negative comment about Dr. Rumbaugh. I've had two ports (because of complications) and recently had the second one removed. Even without a port, I think I'll always be a little over-protective of that area. I doubt you'll want to take chances in the first year, but maybe some old timers that have had ports for years will pop in and tell you how they feel. Till then, don't get all macho and let people see how hard they can punch you in the belly, okay?

I don't know if I should cheer for you or UG for me! GOOD GOING GIRL. You must be on a total rush! Meanwhile, I can't get myself in gear. What do you eat at night or for dinner? Give us a sample menu of your day, would ya?

I'm sucking at keeping up with my own journal. Notice how breakfast and lunch are always perfect, but then I peter out at dinner? DOH! Breakfast - packet oatmeal & small fruit cup, coffee w/ cream