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bahahhaha feel your pain! i had to wait 4 hours for mine - longest 4 hours of my life! Grab a magazine and get comfy! Good luck!

If they see you everyday its very hard to tell! Hopefully you will see some people soon you haven't seen in a while and they should notice, but the daily even weekly people won't see the difference sadly

Hi Surgery in Canberra, Australia on Wednesday of last week all went fine, no dramas at all. Starting weight 106kg / 233lbs (after preop) Current weight 102kg/ 224lbs (5 days) Day 1 - walking around the ward, zero pain with the exception of getting out of bed 1st time and closing one super heavy slide door Day 2 - 3 ice cubes, still zero pain Day 3 - More ice cubes, about 500ml of apple juice, still zero pain (except the cannula in an annoying spot) Day 4 - A litre of apple juice, Some orange juice, released from hospital, still nada on the pain scale Day 5 - 3 full Optifast shakes, 1.5L of water/iced tea - feeling awesome Day 6 - 3 full optifast shakes, some banana custard, 1.5L of Water - Feeling awesome even did some baking (for others) and cleaned the house Is this right? No pain, No problems drinking water, juice, cordial, no problems drinking my optifast or eating custard - nada! Im not full, I don't want food but I drink my opti because I don't want my hair to fall out... I sleep on my stomach Not even any gas pain, anywhere... Went to maccas today to get a friend her morning coffee - nada - didn't want anything, didn't feel like I was missing out... Im happy about the no pain thing, but also really concerned about how easy the drinking of the shakes is (the full shakes) Not really even trying too hard to sip or anything. hmmmmmm surgeon said he took out 75% of my stomach, and its now the size of...well if u put your two thumbs on top of each other in the straight line, sorta so the nails/tips of the thumbs are the connection...(perhaps pretend your singing 'tragedy') so shouldn't I feel full, even though its just liquid, its thick liquid? Thanks

If you go to the doc, please please don't take her with you. I know it sounds strange, but i remember going to the doc as a kid and my mum telling him I was overweight and him saying well not really... but maybe a little puppy fat! Straight after we got home I snuck out and bought some lollies cos i felt rubbish (cue emotional eating) Depends on her I guess, but she may already be copping flack about it at school etc

There is a fine line though - if you push her she will just go and buy her own junk My parents pushed me cos i was overweight as a child and it just made it SO MUCH WORSE, i know they think they were helping and they meant well, but honestly it was the worst thing they could have done - it made me resent healthy eating. I was always incredibly active so that was no issue. The swimming thing is wonderful, but it may be that her body is so used to it it doesn't have much impact anymore so she may need to change it up - but only of course if she wants to its a really hard thing to deal with for you and her... Honestly, coming from the side of the parents pushing for healthy eating I would just leave it alone and support her in everything she wants to do, maybe start making more fresh salads for dinner but keep them exciting and filling (none of this garden salad no dressing rubbish, add lots of protein) and maybe get her to help with making them so she learns? I don't think it would be a good idea to mention anything to her, it will only bring her down and make matters worse and its only a matter of time before she realises herself, and at this time she really needs love and support more then anything 800 calories for lunch is so gross! Wheres Jamie Oliver's school dinners thing when you need him! Maybe, introduce her into counting calories - but you do it too? Make it a family thing? Myfitnesspal is great (and free) then on the days where she has a rubbish lunch (we all do it) she can educate herself to have a light dinner, or know to have a light brekkie because she's saving her calories for lunch? Then if you see she had say a mars bar, say ohh lucky you! Im saving my calories to have one on friday (or whatever, you know what I mean) so she realises its a treat! Please please try not to push her or let her know your worried, honestly it could just bite you and end up so much worse! Feel free to PM me if you like, i'd be more then happy to help where I can Good luck!

Oh I was wrong then! Hahaha sorry! The m&m rule is a handy one!

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No need to be nasty. Have some calm down juice & re read what I said and stop seeing it in a negative light. What I'm saying is no matter what u choose it depends on u and how u use it, the excercise thing was not a personal attack (why would I bother, I don't know u). Whatever u choose it's a tool and not a solution. If your happy to take supplements for the rest of your life then go the rny. If your not, which is very clear considering uve come here and basically picked fights with anyone who tried to give u advice, advice that u asked for, then possibly consider the band or the sleeve. Don't come on here and then get the shits with anyone who doesn't agree with u straight up. Each person will have different - if any - results Depending on how they treat and use the tool (and of course medical issues along the way)

I could be very wrong, but I don't think for a few months if at all (if they are massive). Supposed to have gummy/chewy vitimins...

Is having your intestines re arranged really worth loosing that tiny extra bit of weight a little bit earlier? Not being able to take a bite of food u like, having to take heaps of Vitamin supplements, throwing up every time u have a meal? Each surgerys results depends on the person. The band has just put a friend of mine down to 60kg from 120kg in a year, she does not exercise. But also throws up & people think she's bulimic. Sleeve (yes I'm pro sleeve) is showing results probably slower then the re route, but end of the day u can eat out, u can eat what u like (in small amounts) & u don't have the massive life style change u would with band (visits for fills every few weeks) or the re route your gut (just gross & scary). Each one depends on how u use it. Bigger people may not need to excercise, but why would u spend all this money, undergo surgery & not want to assist by taking a stroll around the block once a day. End of the day, no matter what u choose u can still cheat & stuff it up. Or u can embrace it & work with it for the best results (better non saggy skin etc) Good luck with your decision, but I do think ud be nuts getting your gut re arranged just to loose it faster. Possibly consider the sleeve & go hard at the gym & ull loose it just as fast & also be toned.

I was sleeved on the 13th too I found Water was gross if it didn't have ice, but now I'm drinking the fake hospital fruit juice and it's fine. Maybe just add ice or some sugar free cordial? I also LOVED water b4 surgery

That's great news! Go u!!! I think we had surgery same day (13th?) great to hear others are doing so well I'm still in hospital, go home today or tomoz am drinking juice & walking around etc. just bored! Haha

I'm 2 days out of surgery, have just been given a glass of apple juice. Omg. It's amazing. I tried water but as soon as it went warm it tasted a bit yuk, so now I have apple juice in a glass filled with ice! Yummo! Maybe just try other things like juice or some cordial with your water to ease it down? My surgeon said its common for people to struggle getting water down, but given something else & it's easy good luck!

Yeh - its the best! Maybe stop and calm down a week before but otherwise go nuts! Keep in mind though the more u gain the more u have to loose AND you could stuff yourself up and not be able to resist the slider foods once u've have the surgery now that your in that frame of mind....

u guys are lucky, I get three Protein shakes - thats it! For a week! Day 3 just started and I'm having my brekkie shake mmmmm same shake for the 7th time in a row....

ok will do! I just called my surgeon to let him know, I was pretty happy that he said I could still take medication up until 3 days before! Yay! Maybe I'll get over it in time! Will remind them for sure when I check in Thanks

Hey everyone! Was anyone sick in the lead up to surgery? I've got a chest infection and I'm supposed to be having the surgery in 9 days! I'm really worried they are going to cancel it on me once they find out! Have waited a very long time for this so of course I'm now super nervous its not going to work out! eeeeek! xx

I find I'm telling most people that I want to know, close friends, good colleagues etc etc. So far everyone has been awesome about it. I didn't tell the horrible lady who said 'so, i guess your not on your diet anymore' when I had an egg sandwich for lunch *gasp* how dare I (I'm pre surgery) but everyone else, yep- why not! I don't feel that its worth keeping it as a secret and i'd feel terrible when word does get out (as if its not going to) if they think I did it thru diet and exercise only. If I was me asking someone how they did it, and they said 'oh diet and exercise' and then I found out later they had the surgery, i'd be super cranky. Also, If someone like me sees I'm getting results, I don't want them to compare themselves to me thinking diet and exercise alone - then not getting the results - cue downward spiral Its not something to be ashamed of I'm not doing a Facebook shout out or anything, but if people ask, I'm happy to tell them!

Im June 13! YAY!! We don't have the variety of stuff you guys do here sadly! (Australia) I think I'm going to live off cup a soups! haha

Awesome thanks! Ahhh hills! Lucky for me my 20km both ways is very flat I'll try and ease into it! Sadly I'm a gen y so just want it all now! Hahaha

Just wondering if anyone chooses bike riding over walking? Very keen on riding, but also don't want the gas pains that walking is supposed to help with - am supposed to be getting surgery in a little over a month, would love to get back on my bike and do my 20km to work in the morning & 20km back in the evening! Currently (pre weight loss) I drive 1/2 way and ride the other half everynow and then - seems like a waste though, I want to do it all dammit! So does riding help with the gas pains? Or do I really have to walk to get rid of them? Ideally, i'd like to start this 2-3 weeks after surgery - too soon? Thanks team!

awwww mann! After reading this, not yet sleeved - im a bit shattered that I may not be able to drink Champayne or Cider! Couldnt care less about coke, pepsi etc cos I cant stand them anyway - but not the champayne!! *tear*

hmmmm - question about this one - is the gas issue from just after surgery, or forever! Really not keen on the idea of sitting at work/out at dinner etc etc and blelching - or WORSE!! Ahhhh!

Love it!!!

That really sucks! My surgeon initally said no to me cos my BMI was under 35, but I said so you want me to go home and eat rubbish until I get to 40 - leading to SO many complications and health issues. After that he laughed and agreed to go ahead (yay!) So maybe use that argument - you want to improve your quality of life etc, so being told your not big enough for a potentially life saving operation is rubbish etc etc