☠carolinagirl☠

I think people ask for advice because there is so much information out there and sometimes you just need extra thoughts and different reasons maybe you havent thought of or considered... which is why we see so many questions like which is better the band, sleeve, or bypass? I also think every person is entitled to their own choice and they have to choose whats right for them I personally am getting the bypass for my situation but I don't look down on the banders or sleevers or think any less of them just as I hope they wouldnt look down on me we are only human and we make the best choices we can great post!!! Im happy for you

any WLS will work.....no one is better than the other. I feel if you do your best, do what your doctor advises you to do in order to have the best results, the sky is the limit.....the hard part is doing it.....
i have the lap band/plication and have lost 156 pounds...so any WLS can and does work.....i feel the person is responsible for whatever they choose to work.....
good luck

any WLS will work.....no one is better than the other. I feel if you do your best, do what your doctor advises you to do in order to have the best results, the sky is the limit.....the hard part is doing it.....
i have the lap band/plication and have lost 156 pounds...so any WLS can and does work.....i feel the person is responsible for whatever they choose to work.....
good luck

any WLS will work.....no one is better than the other. I feel if you do your best, do what your doctor advises you to do in order to have the best results, the sky is the limit.....the hard part is doing it.....
i have the lap band/plication and have lost 156 pounds...so any WLS can and does work.....i feel the person is responsible for whatever they choose to work.....
good luck

i also know that larger BMI people can lose more at the beginning also......why is vital to keep doing what one is suppose to do and realize that if you do, the scale will eventually show.....(i judge my loss by inches being lost)
great post and i do watch your video on you tube

sounded like a GREAT meeting to me.
wish i could have went with you. i would have enjoyed it.
thanks for sharing a great post.

I am always watching calorie intake and making sure anything I eat provides me with protein. Very important in healing process and losing wt.

My oldest brother once went to a meeting/talk about dealing with old age parents. The speaker said that to keep the mind going, math helps. My mother would take 3 packages of the same item and in her head would tell which size to buy. It was like it happened over night. She fell and then went back home and that was over 4 years ago. She took care of and spoiled my brother who is mentally challenged. He is now our problem. He is mentally around 12, which when you see others, that is great. When he was 8 months he got the measles and it destroyed 1/2 his brain.
I hope I am never like this when I get that age.

I wonder if this might change as the baby boomers who are experiencing these terrible end of life scenarios for their parents ultimately become like their parents. If at 50 or 60ish, you see what the folks are going thru, would you likely look to make sure this doesn't happen to you?
I don't know if this means making sure someone will follow your wishes, or if we start to legislate ways to end life before the quality is all gone. Interesting topic but so sorry it's happening to you personally Arlene.

I have had the same thought -- but then I think about the people who would have to risk their lives just to recover the vehicle from the bottom of the cliff
I don't want to be morbid, but you might find interesting the story of Martin Manley. I applaud his philosophy and what he did is certainly very...well, thought provoking. Here's an article about him: http://news.msn.com/us/martin-manley-details-suicide-sets-off-treasure-hunt
Even now after all these months, his website gets so many hits that you can't usually get to it. But there is a mirror site that was set up (the link is in the article but here it is too: http://www.zeroshare.info/ )
It's really fascinating...and like I said, thought -provoking. He's kind of a hero I think. Not sure if I agree 100% with every thing he said/ did....but what he did he thoroughly thought out and was extremely practical about and ... wow.
Please don't anyone jump on me if you disagree with the subject of the article/website. I am merely sharing access to information.
And much love.

My mother is the same way. It is sad. I ask my Dad how he keeps doing it day after day. He said because he remembers when...when she was beautiful, when she would smile etc., and this will be a short time until they will both be whole again.

my mother use to say when she was around 85 that she, my father and brother should go on a bus and let the bus go over the cliff. My SIL added her father (he is now 96)to the list and my husband added his mother (90) to the list. It is funny but not funny.

Tough topic to address, but my brother has voiced something similar. My dad passed away at 87 this past May from colon cancer that spread to his lungs. He was quite the tough cookie & pretty much "healthy" up until the very end.
Dad used to take care of mom (take her to Dr appointments all the time (even if she didn't need to go), made her take her meds, etc..). Mom is 85 & has dementia. She recognizes everyone but is just very forgetful & is constantly losing stuff. She doesn't cook, feels she can live on coffee & cookies, or Ensure. She's quite frail but can still get around the house (albeit very slowly). She lives alone now but has a home health care aide that stays with her 5 days a week, 4 hours a day. Her helper is amazing & we adore her. I also help take care of mom. Stop by almost daily, do her shopping & sometimes even cook. I think I'm the only way that can "make" her eat, though very minimally.
After almost 60 years of marriage, mom misses dad terribly (as do we) & doesn't feel like going on some times. She barely eats, only if "I" make something & make her eat. She doesn't want to move into a home either. She barely wants to go outside of the house, so she just exists in the home, waling around day in / day out moving things around over & over again to the point that we are constantly looking for things for her.
My brother & I promised her (and dad) that we would keep her in her home as long as possible because she felt strongly, and quite frankly, they (government) just take all her money & all proceeds from the sale of her home to take care of her. We find that very frustrating because she loses everything.
I digress. My brother feels she is miserable & doesn't want to go on so why should she? It's a very personal, very difficult topic. Why can't we all pass peacefully at, let's say, 90? A good age, hopefully well-lived, and well-loved.

thank you. My mother is going to the hospital tonight because she did break something and they want to check her out better.

I am so sorry you are having to go through this, and I completely agree with you on your rant.
God bless. I'm sending you much love.

The saying if you build it they will come , well we are building our selves as bandsters to a better us health wise , also we have to remember we are not all the same , but some of us have or had many issues, weather it be health, mental or addictions , I know personally I went through a lot when I was younger , but now I look at the positive instead of the negative , when I watched the show my 600 lb, life the one wear the Husband was being t wanted to take the woman aside and ask are you wanting to do this for you or for some one else as if we are not right with us , then we can not help our selves , as we bandsters are doing and I got to a point I was fed up and wanted to not to have to go to the Doctors almost every week for this or that because I was not healthy and it was affecting me , and Really where are the Physcs, to evaluate these people, to ask them all kinds of questions so they can understand why they are this or that way , if they Really think they can put in the work it takes to have wls, you are doing you as I am doing me and I think we are doing good , you just keep on your journey.

Old saying goes you can lead a Horse to water but you can't make them drink it. It has to be on the individuals terms. For me personally I was so lucky because yes I was very very large and I had no health issues aside from Sleep Apnea which I had a machine for and a touch of arthritis in my knee. For me it was enough knowing the the path I was going down it was enough to scare me and make me act.

Jim you are so right.. I was so aggravated with Penny on the 600 lb life show.. I wanted so much to see her succeed. I know about being obese (not morbidly) and I know she has a very difficult and long road ahead. I sometimes forget that I was also in denial and did not want to follow the rules . Being humble is a good thing and thank you for reminding me. I think I want everyone to have the best outcome with their WLS. I am praying that they have a follow up segment where Penny gets it and is on a path to success...

Thank you

such a smart man and inspiration to us all banders and other WLS people alike.well said Jim.

such a smart man and inspiration to us all banders and other WLS people alike.well said Jim.

good to see you AJ
and understand the struggles you are having...maybe not the extent you are experiencing but i can def (feel) your mental anguish, your being down on your self...you ARE most def loved by this forum and by your family and your friends and even Sammy Hagar......YOU are amazing.......
you are and continue to be a success
a great inspiration and one helluva woman.
much love to you
your friend forever
VA

good to see you AJ
and understand the struggles you are having...maybe not the extent you are experiencing but i can def (feel) your mental anguish, your being down on your self...you ARE most def loved by this forum and by your family and your friends and even Sammy Hagar......YOU are amazing.......
you are and continue to be a success
a great inspiration and one helluva woman.
much love to you
your friend forever
VA

good to see you AJ
and understand the struggles you are having...maybe not the extent you are experiencing but i can def (feel) your mental anguish, your being down on your self...you ARE most def loved by this forum and by your family and your friends and even Sammy Hagar......YOU are amazing.......
you are and continue to be a success
a great inspiration and one helluva woman.
much love to you
your friend forever
VA