Jump to content
×
Are you looking for the BariatricPal Store? Go now!

Denied in Maryland/BCBS/depressed/what nxt?



Recommended Posts

I've been working on this since February, have had every test known to man (it feels like, anyway). I have a "low" bmi of 35, have sleep apnea, arthritis, gerd, insulin resistance, etc, but was denied because I'm not 100lbs overweight, even though my insurance reads that your bmi can be as low as 35 w/ co-morbities. Even my denial letter admits I meet the bmi w/ co-morbidities requirement. The insurance uses double-talk so they have a way out of paying. My Dr (Dr Moenolmolki) said, in so many words, don't bother to send an empathetic appeal letter to insurance---they could care less. He suggested hiring a lawyer to write a letter. I don't know if it's worth spending the $450. to do that. Anyone here know of anyone who's been approved on denial with a similar situation? Or should I look into Mexico self-pay? My only concern w/ that is, if I have complications down the road, will insurance cover it? I don't want to rack up $1,000s in medical bills after surgery. Help! :frown:Thanks for any encouragement/advise you can give.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't give up. Be persistent. Keep nagging them, and they will come around. I went through the same thing. Been trying since Feb. I have BCBS of Georgia. I just got my approval last week. They deny hoping you'll just give up. Do you have clinical info proving your sleep apnea, etc...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been working on this since February, have had every test known to man (it feels like, anyway). I have a "low" bmi of 35, have sleep apnea, arthritis, gerd, insulin resistance, etc, but was denied because I'm not 100lbs overweight, even though my insurance reads that your bmi can be as low as 35 w/ co-morbities. Even my denial letter admits I meet the bmi w/ co-morbidities requirement. The insurance uses double-talk so they have a way out of paying. My Dr (Dr Moenolmolki) said, in so many words, don't bother to send an empathetic appeal letter to insurance---they could care less. He suggested hiring a lawyer to write a letter. I don't know if it's worth spending the $450. to do that. Anyone here know of anyone who's been approved on denial with a similar situation? Or should I look into Mexico self-pay? My only concern w/ that is, if I have complications down the road, will insurance cover it? I don't want to rack up $1,000s in medical bills after surgery. Help! :frown:Thanks for any encouragement/advise you can give.

Insurance companies can be a pain in the butt sometimes. I wouldn't give up! I would be calling them once a day! But hiring an attorney may work but what is the $450? I mean really! compared to weight loss and happiness. I would definetly have the doc sign the document also before you send it to them. Self pay can get real expensive and you dont want to rack up bills and ruin your credit! Some hospitals have a huge discount program to help with self pay, or if you can't get any help from your insurance co I would also recommend getting help from the state. They should have some type of medical plan throught your dept of human services, I would sign up for that! Normally the state will pay for it as long as it is medically necessary all you need is documentation from your doc. :wink2: keep your head up! don't give up!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't listen to your doctor! Write a lengthy appeal letter yourself and send it in! there have been many people do that and then get approved. Don't even tell your doctor's office you're doing it.. DO NOT GIVE UP!! I have BCBS also.. it just takes a little nagging by the patient. Use your right to appeal. Then if they deny again, then hire a lawyer. You are allowed more than one appeal. usually you can appeal up to a 3rd level. APPEAL, APPEAL, APPEAL ...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i have bsbs michigan general motors im on wait im sure hoping they aprove me mine is 50 bmi plus i had double knee replacements last yr so im hoping they do me,gl

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

did they say why he denied you? l was also denied by B/C...but l called them daily for probably two weeks. l got to know them also personally...in y book it said l didn't even need approval, yet l did. whe l got denied l was hurt, angry and very pissed off...finally l found out that l was denied bec l was missing a paper in my file...given the paper and l was approved...CALL them....be a pain in their neck...call them again and again...eventually you will find someone who cares...l was lcky to find someone who has the surgery a few years ago....lol....be strong..lf all else fails l would spend them money on an attorney...l contacted obesity law .com...they accepted my case, bec l really had a case....BUT l got my approval the same day Obesity law took the case and l never needed them...Good luck..Be a cheerleader for yourself....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank-you all for your suggestions and encouragement, which are greatly appreciated!!!! I will follow up and keep trying....thanks again!:biggrin:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Working for BCBS myself, you have appeal rights. Follow thru with them first. Then check into your local Dept of Insurance if needed. They usually pay closer attention when they become invloved. Also, you have the right to ask for an external review outside of the BCBS dept. BCBS woon't give if it's an exclusion in your policy, but since you meet the 35 BMI with co-morbidities, they can't keep denying by law. Again, your state's dept of insurance maybe can help before you get a lawyer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Working for BCBS myself, you have appeal rights. Follow thru with them first. Then check into your local Dept of Insurance if needed. They usually pay closer attention when they become invloved. Also, you have the right to ask for an external review outside of the BCBS dept. BCBS woon't give if it's an exclusion in your policy, but since you meet the 35 BMI with co-morbidities, they can't keep denying by law. Again, your state's dept of insurance maybe can help before you get a lawyer.

Thank-you for the info! Do you know anything about 3rd party administrators? My policy has NCAS as the 3rd party administrator. My understanding is that they interpret and administer my employer's policy, they don't write it. Do you think that will make a difference one way or another? Should I speak to someone in my HR/benefit department? (although it's the most disorganized HR dept I've ever seen--you can never get a person when you call, and rarely get a call-back...but that's another story!) I am an RN with a large healthcare organization/hospital. Thanks again!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Great news today!!! I sent out an appeal letter today (which a LBT member graciously helped me compose), but then received a call from my doctor's office that I was just approved! I think it's because I called the ins company a couple of days ago and challenged them regarding the wording in my denial letter which contradicted itself. I insisted that they send me a copy of the policy, which before they have always refused to do. The lady I spoke with consulted with her supervisor and when she came back to the phone, she said they would mail it to me. Instead, I think they realized the contradiction, and approved me!! YAY!!! Thank-you all for your encouragement and support!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Trending Products

  • Trending Topics

  • Recent Status Updates

    • LeighaTR

      Four days post surgery. I am sipping as fast as I can and getting NO WHERE near the goal of 60 - 80 grams of protein or the 64 oz of liquids. I just feel FULL. I don't know if it can still be the gas build up (I would think by now that would be gone) but it is a struggle to drink. And so far I have not had the nausea or spasms and don't want to wander into that territory by pushing too hard with liquids. I about passed out today as it was my most "strenuous" day. Went from second story to basement for shower and I was sure I was going to pass out. Looking back on my last few days I have had a total of less than 1000 calories. Am I just not getting enough nourishment in me? Once again a friday where I can't get ahold of the doc until Monday rolls back around so I am hoping maybe someone here has some experience on how to keep energy going. I do have fibromyalgia too and that may be where some added fatigue comes into play. How did you all fair with the goals the week after surgery?
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • Doughgurl

      2 days until I fly out to San Diego to have my Bypass Surg. in Tiajuana Mexico. Not gonna lie, the nerves are starting to surface. I don't fear the surgery itself, or the fact that I'm traveling alone, but its the aftermath that I'm stressing about the most, after this 8 week wait. I'm excited to finally be here, but I am really dreading the post surgical chapter. I know its going to be tough, real tough and I think I'm just in my head to much now that the day i here. Wish me luck, Hopefully I'm one of the lucky ones, and everything goes smoothly. Cant wait to give an exciting update,. If there is anyone else have a June bypass or even a recent one, Id love to have someone to compare war stories with. Also, anyone near San Antonio Tx? See ya soon with the future me. 💜
      · 1 reply
      1. Phil Penn

        Good Luck this procedure is well worth it I am down to 249.6 lb please continue with the process..

    • LeighaTR

      I am new here today... and only two weeks out from my sleeve surgery on the 23rd. I am amazed I have kept my calories down to 467 today so far... that leaves me almost 750 left for dinner and maybe a snack. This is going to be tough for two weeks... but I have to believe I can do it!
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • Doughgurl

      Hey everyone. I'm new here so I thought I should introduce myself. I am 53y/o and am scheduled for Gastric Bypass on June 25th, 2025. I'm located in San Antonio, Texas. I will be having my surgery in Tiajuana Mexico. I've wanted this for years, but I always had insurance where bariatric procedures were excluded. Finally I am able to afford to pay out of pocket.  I can't wait to get started, and I hope I'm prepared for the initial period of "hell". I know what I have signed up for, but I'm sure the good to come will out way the temporary period of discomfort and feelings of regret. I'd love to find people to talk to who have been through the same procedure or experience before. So I look forward to meeting you all. Hope you have a great week!
      · 2 replies
      1. Selina333

        I'm so happy for you! You are about to change your life. I was so glad to get the sleeve done in Dec. I didn't have feelings of regret overall. And I'm down almost 60 lbs. I do feel a little sad at restaurants. I can barely eat half a kid's meal. I get adults meals often because kid ones don't have the same offerings at times. Then I feel obligated to eat on that until it's gone and that can be days. So the restaurant thing isn't great for me. All the rest is fine by me! I love feeling full with very little. I do wish I could drink when eating. And will sip at the end. Just a strong habit to stop. But I'm working on it! You will do fine! Just keep focused on your desire to be different. Not better or worse. But different. I am happy both ways but my low back doesn't like me that heavy. So I listened (also my feet!). LOL! Update us on your journey! I'm not far from you. I'm in Houston. Good luck and I hope it all goes smoothly! Would love to see pics of the town you go to for this. I've never been there. Neat you will be traveling for this! Enjoy the journey. Take it one day at a time. Sometimes a few hours at a time. Follow all recommendations as best you can. 💗

      2. Doughgurl

        Thank you so much for your well wishes. I am hoping that everything goes easy for me as well. We don't eat out much as it is, so it wont be too bad in that department. Thankfully. Also, I hear you regarding your back and feet!! I'd like to add knees to the list. Killing me as we speak! I'm only 5' so the weight has to go. Too short to carry all this weight. Menopause really did a doosey on me. (😶lol) My daughter also lives in Houston. with her Husband and my 5 grand-littles. I grew up in Beaumont, so I know Houston well, I will be sure to keep in touch and update you on my journey. I may need some advice in the future, or just motivation. Thank You so much for reaching out, I was hoping to connect with someone in the community. I really appreciate it. 💜

    • Alisa_S

      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
      · 1 reply
      1. LeighaTR

        I hope your surgery on Wednesday goes well. You will be able to do all sorts of new things as you find your new normal after surgery. I don't know this from experience yet, but I am seeing a lot of positive things from people who have had it done. Best of luck!

  • Recent Topics

  • Hot Products

  • Sign Up For
    Our Newsletter

    Follow us for the latest news
    and special product offers!
  • Together, we have lost...
      lbs

    PatchAid Vitamin Patches

    ×