How many carbs can you safely eat without dumping?

[CyclicalLoser 155]

I'm curious here, even though I've had the RNY since July, I'm a bit of a slow-adopter. Meaning that I haven't "ventured" out much because when I have dumped, well let's be honest, it's no fun. We're all different I know, and there are dozens of ways to calculate carbs, but at the end of the day anything other than Fiber carbs is going to make some of us dump.

So, while I know that eating a majority of Protein and fibrous carbs are best, when one is at the supermarket thinking about a chicken noodle Soup, or brown rice, or any of the moderately high carb foods, how much is too much? This is not to try and see how much junk food one can eat, but on the same regard, can one eat a half can of chicken noodle soup, or have a waffle with sugar free Syrup, or even a whole wheat sandwich at Subway. Just throwing out some types of food which are admittedly higher on the carb percentages than normal, but sometimes (not always) it is nice to break up the monotony of (in my case) almost nothing but nuts and Protein Drinks. Feel free to qualify your answer - I'm still trying to figure out what works for me. I have eaten apples and I had half a banana the first time today and it did not make me dump, so I know I can incorporate foods quicker than I am.

And yes, I do know that "sugars added" (When listed) really help with assessing the "dumpability score " of a food. Because it's not listed, I'm trying to go off the total carbs minus fiber carbs.

Thank you for your feedback! I think this would be really helpful for people just starting out as well.

[FluffyChix 17,418]

The 64000$$ question!

The answer is I have no idea. I've had 2 episodes of late dumping (about 2hours after the previous meal). I didn't think either meal was particularly heavy in carbs. So it was hidden sugar that was the culprit perhaps?

In general I avoid any meal with more than 5g of sugar per serving. I try to keep below 20g of total carbs in a 4-6 hour window with the idea that at least 8g of those carbs would be taken up by Fiber. I don't have the nuts required to try anything more than one spoonful of rice or Pasta or potatoes. I have had a slice of bread/part of a roll, but I am so careful about portion and it is very infrequent. I also use meal combining with fat and Protein and fiber to try to slow how quickly it hits my blood stream.

In general I eat pretty clean: dense protein, low glycemic veg and a tiny bit of lg fruit, small amounts of healthy fats.

[CyclicalLoser 155]

Thank you I appreciate it and yeah, someone needs to make a $64000 "dump detector" that we can wave over the food

I really have a hard time with veggies - always have. I'm trying to incorporate them by "hiding" them in other foods. A lot of time I'm the guy in the grocery store spending an uncomfortably long time comparison shopping 4 cans of chili...Only to put all four back on the shelf and walk away. I've had a single slick of whole grain toast with smart balance light and sugar free grape jelly (Or sugar free strawberry jam) and it was quite good. I was able to tolerate a piece of french toast (Made it myself, no sugar) and some sugar free Syrup. I'd like to incorporate some flavored instant oatmeal, but I'm a bit apprehensive to try it because even the sugar free stuff has more carbs than I'm currently willing to try.