Anti-Semitism In France!

Tired_Old_Man · March 3, 2007

There is an insidious undercurrent that many in the USA are not aware of. Many people of good will are being swept up into it unknowingly.

In this thread, it has been said and agreed with that anyone who disagrees with the President's policies should be tried as a traitor. Ann Coulter may have wrote the book, but there are many supporters, including some of the posters here.

It has also been said that people should vote for candidates that would put their religious values into law.

If enough candidates are elected by members of one religious group, then the laws can be and will be changed to reflect that group's religions values or what some of the extremists see as the religious values of that group. The USA is 80% Christian according to the latest figures I have read.

Ann Coulter and her followers are prominent in one of the largest pockets of Christian political thought and one of the most vocal and most politically active. They will work tirelessly to get their agenda put into law.

Though there are many different kinds of Christians, a president may someday be elected, who will take measures to promote his version of Christianity and when people disagree with him, they will be tried as traitors. Soon, who will have the nerve to speak out.

How many people were afraid to speak out in the days right after 911?

I wasn't and I was verbally assaulted for being unamerican and a traitor, and invited to go to a Muslim country to live.

How many people were afraid to speak out in the days right before and right after the invasion of Iraq?

I wasn't and I was verbally assaulted for being unamerican and a traitor, and invited to go to a Muslim country to live.

When Ann Coulter gets her way and the majority of elected officials know that the Bible would want them to promote Christianity, what else will people be afraid to speak out about?

Tired_Old_Man · March 3, 2007

Your beliefs are off limits to discuss, you can tear apart mine, is that what you're saying?

Your beliefs are fine with me. I only have a problem with you trying to convert everyone to them.

And if you would express them as "your beliefs" instead of "I didn't say that. Scriptures says that", I would be less inclined to complain. An "IMHO" here and there wouldn't hurt.

That's not a discussion, thats like Socialism, which is another name for liberalism isn't it? Now who's the reall bully here??

Why are you so afraid of the word Liberal? What is wrong with the word socialism?

Wasn't Jesus promoting socialism when he tried to save everyone's soul by dying on the cross?

Ron Cusano · March 3, 2007

That's one way to change the subject, avoid having to answer questions and get real! Go on yet another tirade against the government, Conservative Christians, social injustice and everything that's wrong with this country. :faint: :notagree :help: SOS = Same Old Story!!

There is an insidious undercurrent that many in the USA are not aware of. Many people of good will are being swept up into it unknowingly.
In this thread, it has been said and agreed with that anyone who disagrees with the President's policies should be tried as a traitor. Ann Coulter may have wrote the book, but there are many supporters, including some of the posters here.

It has also been said that people should vote for candidates that would put their religious values into law.

If enough candidates are elected by members of one religious group, then the laws can be and will be changed to reflect that group's religions values or what some of the extremists see as the religious values of that group. The USA is 80% Christian according to the latest figures I have read.

Ann Coulter and her followers are prominent in one of the largest pockets of Christian political thought and one of the most vocal and most politically active. They will work tirelessly to get their agenda put into law.

Though there are many different kinds of Christians, a president may someday be elected, who will take measures to promote his version of Christianity and when people disagree with him, they will be tried as traitors. Soon, who will have the nerve to speak out.

How many people were afraid to speak out in the days right after 911?

I wasn't and I was verbally assaulted for being unamerican and a traitor, and invited to go to a Muslim country to live.

How many people were afraid to speak out in the days right before and right after the invasion of Iraq?

I wasn't and I was verbally assaulted for being unamerican and a traitor, and invited to go to a Muslim country to live.

When Ann Coulter gets her way and the majority of elected officials know that the Bible would want them to promote Christianity, what else will people be afraid to speak out about?

Ron Cusano · March 3, 2007

Jesus tried to convert everyone, didn't He??

Your beliefs are fine with me. I only have a problem with you trying to convert everyone to them.
And if you would express them as "your beliefs" instead of "I didn't say that. Scriptures says that", I would be less inclined to complain. An "IMHO" here and there wouldn't hurt.

My beliefs and what the scriptures say are one and the same. I don't make up my own beliefs.

Why are you so afraid of the word Liberal? What is wrong with the word socialism? Socialism has never worked; ask a Russian!! At least now we knoe your ideal is 'Socialism" and not Democracy! That explains an awful lot about your views about our great country!

Wasn't Jesus promoting socialism when he tried to save everyone's soul by dying on the cross? Not even close! he gave us all a free choice; that more like capitalism!

Tired_Old_Man · March 3, 2007

If I am to believe in a God, and I believe that God is perfect...

How perfect is God?

Was God perfect enough to know everything that was going to happen in the future?

Did God know (on the first day of Genesis) that TOM would be asking Ron Cusano "How perfect is God?"?

If so, then we are only playing his game, and therefor we are doing his will, whether we are murdering 6,000,000 Jews or living a life of a pious Christian monk.

If not, then God is not perfect, but very powerful and IMHO still Almighty.

To be able to control life or death.

To be able to listen in on the thoughts of 6,500,000,000 people at once and to judge them.

WOW. That is Almighty (but not perfect).

Tired_Old_Man · March 3, 2007

Jesus tried to convert everyone, didn't He??

And that is more akin to socialism than capitalism. IMHO, Jesus was anti-capitalism. Look at his contact with the money lenders just before his execution. How about the Biblical statement about the difficulty of a rich man entering the "Kingdom of Heaven"?

Carlene · March 3, 2007

In the example you sited here, the Pastor was 100% correct. Within the church, a women is not to exert authority over the man. Just as Christ is the head of the Church, a man is the head of the household and is responsible for teaching, among other things.

So....you're saying that for the more than 50 years this woman taught, her church elders, various pastors, etc were ALL in error? And for all that time, they were misinterpreting the scriptures, yes? How is that possible, since the dogma of the church did NOT change during that time. And still remains unchanged in most Baptist churches across America.

How do you KNOW this one scripture should be taken "literally", but many others (like the one that says women must cover their heads to pray) need NOT be? How, exactly, is that distinction "clear" to you?

green · March 3, 2007

That is your opinion!
No one told you to leave the country. As usual, you are twisting my words and making things up. I listed three choices that we all have. I didn't tell you to do anything.

And, no, you don't have to explain your lifestyle to me. I just thought since you are always yelling about social injustice and the down trodden, that you would be going to great lengths to change the world unless it's all just talk.

Regarding you religious conviction, let me see if I understand you correctly. Your beliefs are off limits to discuss, you can tear apart mine, is that what you're saying? That's not a discussion, thats like Socialism, which is another name for liberalism isn't it? Now who's the reall bully here??

Cusano, you have chosen to display your beliefs on this thread and thus they are open for discussion. It does not follow that TOM must display his beliefs and he has chosen to keep these to himself. What is wrong with that?

Ron Cusano · March 3, 2007

Yes, my God is perfect. I can't say much for the God you worship. If he's in imperfect, I want no part of him!

How perfect is God?
Was God perfect enough to know everything that was going to happen in the future?

Did God know (on the first day of Genesis) that TOM would be asking Ron Cusano "How perfect is God?"?

If so, then we are only playing his game, and therefor we are doing his will, whether we are murdering 6,000,000 Jews or living a life of a pious Christian monk.

If not, then God is not perfect, but very powerful and IMHO still Almighty.

To be able to control life or death.

To be able to listen in on the thoughts of 6,500,000,000 people at once and to judge them.

WOW. That is Almighty (but not perfect).

green · March 3, 2007

And what is wrong with socialism? (Perhaps you are confusing socialism with totalitarianism, eh.)

Tired_Old_Man · March 3, 2007

Why are you so afraid of the word Liberal? What is wrong with the word socialism?

Socialism has never worked; ask a Russian!! At least now we knoe your ideal is 'Socialism" and not Democracy! That explains an awful lot about your views about our great country!

There you go again, equating a question with a point of my belief. I never said I believed in socialism, though I support Social Security and Medicare. I will not ask if you do. It is none of my business.

And if I did favor in Socialism, which I don't, why would that make me a bad American? There is an American socialist party registered with the US Board of elections who have the same rights as the other registered parties such as the Republican, Democratic, Conservative, Liberal and American Communist parties.

green · March 3, 2007

Yes, my God is perfect. I can't say much for the God you worship. If he's in imperfect, I want no part of him!

Oh, the my God is better than your God statement! How refreshingly juvenile. This reminds me of my schoolyard era and that was a long, long time ago. :rolleyes

lisah25 · March 3, 2007

What bit about Jesus' Body?

You've said that Jesus didn't really mean us to eat his body and drink his blood. But those are the words the Bible uses.

Tired_Old_Man · March 3, 2007

Yes, my God is perfect. I can't say much for the God you worship. If he's in imperfect, I want no part of him!

So God knew 6,000 years ago that on March 2, 2007 that Ron Cusano was going to type, "Yes, my God is perfect. I can't say much for the God you worship. If he's in imperfect, I want no part of him!"?

I asked only in jest. You need not answer that.

And my God is the same as your God is the same God that the Muslims worship is the same God as the Catholics worship is the same God as Jews worship and the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons worship.

We just go about it differently.

lisah25 · March 3, 2007

All we're asking is "How do you know about Jesus and whatever it is you believe" if it didn't come from the Bible??? What are you basing it on?? It's a simple question!

Not believing the Bible is word-for-word literel doesn't mean some don't read it, and that their faith doesn't come from it. You don't seem to get that, even though it's what you yourself do.