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How would that work? Can you build muscle after the sleeve? I mean, isnt it impossible to gain muscle at a caloric deficit?

I'd rather not be "skinny" (though would MUCH prefer skinny over fat), but I truely like lifting, and would like to gain some muscle after I get sleeved. I'm not looking to look like the guys on the cover of bodybuilder mags, but I would like to have some mass and be somewhat cut.

Is this possible? Or is being fat, then sleeved, then muscular not in the cards?

TIA

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I can't see why it'd be a problem - I guess it depends how much you're able to eat. I'd check with the doc when you can start doing weights, but I wouldn't have wanted to do anything too strenuous for the first 6 weeks after my surgery. People report being able to eat a fair bit more after 6 months, so worst case I'm sure you'd be able to by then.

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Wow talk about perfect timing. I met with my excercise physiologist today and we discussed this very topic. The conclusion: no reason it can't be done. It will involve an extra effort to pay attention to calories burned versus those taken in and an increase in Protein, but should be very managable. Let's hit the weights!

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Wow talk about perfect timing. I met with my excercise physiologist today and we discussed this very topic. The conclusion: no reason it can't be done. It will involve an extra effort to pay attention to calories burned versus those taken in and an increase in Protein, but should be very managable. Let's hit the weights!

Great news, Paul!

I guess ones main colaroic intake would have to revolve around protien, but fortunately, I love protien shakes and bars (not sure why so many dont like them here, but I really like them). Also, if one could maintain most of what is under the flab, I am sure it wouuld provide a great base to work off of. Surely it takes more muscle to tote this body around than is required to tote a smaller one. There should be some decent sized muscles under there already, once the fat around them is chipped away.

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Great news, Paul!

I guess ones main colaroic intake would have to revolve around protien, but fortunately, I love protien shakes and bars (not sure why so many dont like them here, but I really like them). Also, if one could maintain most of what is under the flab, I am sure it wouuld provide a great base to work off of. Surely it takes more muscle to tote this body around than is required to tote a smaller one. There should be some decent sized muscles under there already, once the fat around them is chipped away.

LOL...yep, you just summarized another part of my conversation with him. A good by product of being overweight (like that is posssible) is that it does build muscle and bone density.

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Hey all, just an FYI here regarding this bodybuilding thing. . I have lost 150 lbs . . I used to bodybuild years ago and with the weight loss now I still have definition and tone under that loose skin, (still can puff out the lats pretty good and move the pec's :lol: ) actually was approached by a bodybuilding trainer at Golds to work with him to represent Gold's gym. . . wow that was a shocker. . never thought I still had it in me. . . HOWEVER, 5-6 hours a day workout sessions, plus working full time and being a wife (hubbie thinks it would be cool! of course he would :P ) . . . don't know about that one though. . . was nice to be approached, Good ego booster! but if you have the time, go for it, every bit counts!!! Good luck

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I don't see why not. serious Body builders regularly undergo crash diets to reduce their total body fat % for competitions without managing to lose muscle mass.

Not that I"d recommend that, it's not healthy. Still, I'm sure it's possible.

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I was a former college football player, and I got sleeved after a player I know had bypass two years ago. He's in the best physical shape of his life, and hits the gym all the time. We were the same weight at surgery time so I'm hoping for the same results. I'm still two weeks out from being able to hit a weight room again.

We could both dunk at 300 lbs (at 18 and 20 years old), and now he's 30 and 195 and not only can he dunk again, he can show up 18-19 year olds with his ability to jump.

In short..., you can have the muscle mass you want to have, and be as athletic as you want to be.

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I was a former college football player, and I got sleeved after a player I know had bypass two years ago. He's in the best physical shape of his life, and hits the gym all the time. We were the same weight at surgery time so I'm hoping for the same results. I'm still two weeks out from being able to hit a weight room again.

We could both dunk at 300 lbs (at 18 and 20 years old), and now he's 30 and 195 and not only can he dunk again, he can show up 18-19 year olds with his ability to jump.

In short..., you can have the muscle mass you want to have, and be as athletic as you want to be.

Thanks for sharing that. I've been back on the weights for about 3 weeks now and am seeing improvements. I was initially discouraged because my weights were down so far from where I used to be lifting. I then realized it had been a good 4 years since I did any serious lifting and I'm no spring chicken any more, gonna be 40 in October. I look forward to seeing how you progress as you get back to the weights. Good luck!

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This is a big concern of mine. I am 4 days out from surgery and my biggest concern is losing too much weight. I work out regulalry and have good muscle mass but do not want to lose it all with the unwanted fat. My goal is to begin lifting as within the first 45 days so I can use the fat burining power to build the muscle. Anyone seen any good results lifting after to avoid the super skinny look?

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I was sleeved Aug. 27th of this year. I started walking and using the elliptical the first week after surgery and started to lift a few days a week . Sometime in the middle of Oct. I did the bod pod at my gym towards the end of Sept. because I wanted to keep track body fat percentage and muscle mass. I was really worried about losing muscle. Last week I did the bod pod again and lost a total of 43 pounds in 9 weeks(total of 95 pounds down since surgery). The cool thing was that I gained 13 pounds of lean body mass! According to the bod pod results I lost over 50 pound of fat. Although I have no plans to body build I still want to keep lean muscle.

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This is a big concern of mine. I am 4 days out from surgery and my biggest concern is losing too much weight. I work out regulalry and have good muscle mass but do not want to lose it all with the unwanted fat. My goal is to begin lifting as within the first 45 days so I can use the fat burining power to build the muscle. Anyone seen any good results lifting after to avoid the super skinny look?

We got a member here, Aroundhky, he's done great with lifting and putting on the muscle. Search him out. You're going to lose some muscle initially. It's inevitable with the restricted calories and lack of lifting during recovery. But it will be easier to get it back since you already had it. My upper body strength is not what it used to be, and when I tried to workout heavy I ended up with a damaged rotator cuff which I am in PT for now. But my core and leg strength is there, and my quads look ridiculous. Like a couple of oak trees, and all the while my focus has been more on cardio and fitness than strength training.

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I was always able to gain muscle when my caloric diet was 1200 I was losing weight and getting bigger and stronger so there should be no problem keeping or gaining muscle now

Plus when your body gets smaller your muscles will look huge.

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It's possible to build muscle with limited calories, but I've found it to be quite tricky, but do-able. For me, it's all about timing and type of nutrition on days that I lift (more Protein, more complex carbs and less fat). Days I don't lift, very little carbs, but I up my fat intake slightly and keep Protein about the same. The first few months after surgery is really hard to build muscle, if not impossible, at least for me anyway. I was able to maintain the muscle some after the first month and a half after surgery. Then around the 3+ month mark I can tell I started gaining strength/muscle again while slowly shedding fat.

Thanks for the props "Butter". I don't have it all figured out yet, but I'm making some progress and figuring a few things out about muscle/strength while on limited calories. Hope your lifting is going well!

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I was always able to gain muscle when my caloric diet was 1200 I was losing weight and getting bigger and stronger so there should be no problem keeping or gaining muscle now

Plus when your body gets smaller your muscles will look huge.

Tattoo, do you play slow pitch? I used to live at the ball park 7 days a week. And lived on ball park food too. Not good. League ball every night and tourneys every weekend for about 20 years till I tore my ACL. It took about a year before I could play again and by then I didn't want to. But I'm thinking I'm gonna start back up again as soon as I'm old enough for the 50-over league.

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