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Booze

I think we have had this discussion recently but I can't find it.

Anyway....I'm curious how long all of your doctors said you have to wait to drink, and then what should you have? I know not beer because of the carbination. What about vodka and cranberry. I'm not a wine drinker.

Do we get drunk real fast???? :ack2:

Just wondering about everyones experience.

Thanks

Stacey

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Great information!!! You just answered some of the questions I've been wanting to ask the dietician but my next appointment isn't for another 4 weeks.

I have been totally shocked to find that I just can't tolerate coffee. I really enjoy a nice cup of coffee so I've tried 3 or 4 times since my surgery - but I have to throw it out after a couple of sips. Now I know why and I will stop trying. Thank you so much for shedding light on this for me.

I also usually have a couple of glasses of red wine once a week on Bridge night. I haven't even tried that yet but knowing that it wreaks havoc on Iron absorption will keep me from wondering any further. What about white wine or chanpagne? Bad for other reasons I suspect?

I've also tried to drink tea but haven't been able to do that either. If I get desperatge for a warm cup of joe I will try tea with lemon instead and see if that is tolerable.

If you were right here I'd try to give you a big hug. This has been so helpful! It's amazing what we don't know and how much easier things are when we have the information we need to do this thing right!

Thanks!!!

Even though I introduced myself quite some time ago I haven't posted because I just haven't had anything to add.....LOL....however, I work in a winery so I'll try and shed light on the red wine issue:

Red wines contain higher amounts of a natural preservative called tannis

If ingested in excessive quantities, tannins inhibits the absorption of minerals such as Iron which may, if prolonged, lead to anemia. Tannic acid does not affect absorption of other trace minerals such as zinc, copper, and manganese.

Also coffee and tea have high amounts of tannic acid. Foods rich in Vitamin C help neutralize tannin's effects on iron absorption. Adding lemon juice to tea will reduce the negative effect of tannins in iron absorption as well. Adding milk to coffee and tea has very little to no influence on the inhibitory effect of tannins. In sensitive individuals, a large intake of tannins may cause bowel irritation, kidney irritation, liver damage, irritation of the stomach and gastrointestinal pain.

My surgeon pointed out that some individuals develope a sensitivity to tannic acid after VSG and Bypass - hence the advice to stay away from red wine.

Have no idea if you wanted to know all that but there you go!:thumbup:

Really good info!!!

Thanks so much for sharing!!

Even though I introduced myself quite some time ago I haven't posted because I just haven't had anything to add.....LOL....however, I work in a winery so I'll try and shed light on the red wine issue:

Red wines contain higher amounts of a natural preservative called tannis

If ingested in excessive quantities, tannins inhibits the absorption of minerals such as Iron which may, if prolonged, lead to anemia. Tannic acid does not affect absorption of other trace minerals such as zinc, copper, and manganese.

Also coffee and tea have high amounts of tannic acid. Foods rich in Vitamin C help neutralize tannin's effects on iron absorption. Adding lemon juice to tea will reduce the negative effect of tannins in iron absorption as well. Adding milk to coffee and tea has very little to no influence on the inhibitory effect of tannins. In sensitive individuals, a large intake of tannins may cause bowel irritation, kidney irritation, liver damage, irritation of the stomach and gastrointestinal pain.

My surgeon pointed out that some individuals develope a sensitivity to tannic acid after VSG and Bypass - hence the advice to stay away from red wine.

Have no idea if you wanted to know all that but there you go!:confused1:

That is awesome information. I never thought about the tannic acid factor. But, it makes perfect sense.

Thanks for sharing.

I'm so glad you asked this!

We are huge college football fans and we have season tickets and tailgate at all home games. I was hoping to still be able to partake a bit during that time! I dont drink other wise but I do enjoy my morning bloody mary in the a.m. on game days! :confused1:

Ohhh, I wonder if a Bloody Mary would be a good choice. It has lemon or lime usually, celery and V-8 or tomato juice.

Anybody have an answer to that??

I don't drink at all now. I did drink quite a lot of red wine and was using that and occasionally vodka to help me cope with stress. It affected me really quickly and I didn't need much to feel seriously lightheaded, so lightheaded that just over 5 weeks ago I slipped on the stairs, fell backwards and fractured the base of my skull causing a major csf leak with lasted until last week. I was ashamed. I didn't tell the doctor I had been drinking and made my family promise not to tell anyone. I think I must have blacked out on the way down as I only remember slipping and then finding myself at the bottom of the stairs. From that night I promised myself and my husband that I wouldn't drink again as I just cannot handle it anymore with my new stomach. I gulp. I don't do sipping delicately at anything. I have joined the gym now and intend to use that to help me cope with the stress I feel 24/7.

Helen, that's terrible. Hope you are feeling better.

I find that I get absolutely slaughtered very fast but it doesn't last long. I have 'persevered' with alcohol and now can do what I want, but I restrict it to weekends and holidays. And I didn't touch it much at all when I was in the main losing phase. Now I am heading to maintenance I am being much laxer.

For some reason, my surgeon told me to avoid red wines to begin with. I didn't question his reasoning. I stick with Riesling or this funky German white wine that I love a lot. I have lost my taste for most red wines, and that makes me a sad panda.

Interesting. I wonder why with the red wines. I was sort of planning to become a "glass of red wine in the evening" guy, once I'm cleared for it (since my beloved beer is a thing of the past).

Ouroborous, I happily drink red wine, I find white more acidic to be honest. Also I happily drink beer, lager, English bitter which is flatter, Magners lighter cyder, champagne, Sauvignon blanc and various cocktails, but obviously not all at once!! I'm not that bad! I don't find my sleeve does anything except restrict food volume now, and I am still on PPIs which bugs me a bit.

Good to know. I'm (obviously) going to avoid beer for a long, long time, and probably all alcohol for a good six months or so, but it's nice to know that there will be SOME "adult recreational activities" available to me!

Yes, I am a major party animal now. I have so many parties to catch up on.

Interesting. I wonder why with the red wines. I was sort of planning to become a "glass of red wine in the evening" guy, once I'm cleared for it (since my beloved beer is a thing of the past).

There's an explanation from someone else on here about red wines. I quoted them above. I still haven't tried many reds. I'm not sure why, but I can drink red plum Japanese wine on occasion with zero issue. Maybe my surgeon just gave me that little tidbit because he's more conservative about alcohol. I honestly don't know because I just trusted him as much as anyone else trusts their surgeons when they are told something. My surgeon also requires that his bariatric patients wait a minimum of 3 months before trying alcohol. Other surgeons let their patients try it around 6 weeks out.

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