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Many natives turned Christianity out of fear or because they didn't understand...Many of them did not do so because they truely believed! You can't say the "God" that was in everyone was "Jesus" because you do not speak for everyone. Oh and back then when people were put to death for being witches or because they didn't want to believe in that nonsense...that is the faith that this Nation was built on? Hmmm...sounds to me like faith has led to some pretty aweful things in this Nation...

The word/name God is used in other religions besides Christianity...Our Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Christian...of course people who believe in God are going to include him into their speeches and songs...Just like people who don't believe will not include "God"...

What about the Natives that lived here before it was "discovered"? They definately were not Christian! Also, did you notice that Spanish is spoken every where and a lot of places will only hire if you are bilingual. We have adapted our ways of life and our beliefs for the beliefs of others living here! Things change...back in those days it was also okay to take a 13 year old as a wife, but we don't follow that anymore...our laws and the way things are done have to change as time goes by. It has to adapt, we have to adapt!

All emergency departments have to do is make sure you are stable and then they can release you...

Well said...I agree...Seperate State and Church right?

I am lucky that my parents were very open about sex and everything that goes with it! :scared2: Not all kids are so lucky!

Has she tried using some sensitivity cream or gel on her clit? That may help her be more sensitive and reach a climax sooner...maybe it will also help her regain that sensitivity! :thumbup:

THank you so much! We have been trying to raise him like a "normal" child and to us he is a "normal" child....

I didn't take it wrong :w00t:. Everyone is different. I know that it would be a hard choice to make for some. Sometimes I forget I have a handicapped child :thumbup: lol. I just think you should have the right to abort for reasons like that if you think it would be hard on the child and hard on you to raise a child with problems...it is not an easy task, but it can be so rewarding. Some of the doctors even told me that if while I was pregnant they would have seen that the fetus was missing muscles and had all the problems that they would have probably recommended abortion...I'm glad I have my son. You would never really know just by looking at him that he was handicapped...he is an amazing little guy...who by the way turns 2 tomorrow...lol. They gave him an hour to live and look how far he has come :thumbup: I'm so excited!!! lol.

As I have said before, my son is disabled/special needs. I wouldn't change him for anything in the world! I love my son and I don't think it would have been selfish if I would have know about his problems. I would not have aborted him...I love him very much. :w00t: Everyone is different though and those who do not share my choice should have the right to go in the direction that is right for them. :thumbup:

I just read yesturday that 90% of women who find out their baby will have Downs, abort the fetus. Just thought I would throw that out there.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the counseling is for what led to the pregnancy in the first place? Not everyone terminates a pregnancy because they think the embyo is a blob...come one. I did not feel guilty for what I did, but I needed counseling because I was guilty about what "I let" happen to me...

Yeah I know. I am very lucky to have the family that I do have. I was just saying that for people who has someone in their family that has an abortion, so that they know that sometimes your support is what they need the most. :laugh:. All of my counselors in life have SUCKed so bad...lol. I was watching a Wife Swap today and the lady said that she always has the amnio done when she's pregnant and that if it ever showed her baby had Downs that she would abort it immediately...that made me sad...and a little angry. I hate people like that, but it would be her right to do it...

I just wanted to say that after my aboriton I went to some counseling, but the counseling that helped me the most, that I got the most out of was from my family. The love and support of my family made all the difference in how I moved on from what had happened to me. So while it is great to help someone find the right person to talk to, remember that sometimes family that is open and supportive is the best support group there is. I felt like the counselor didn't care/didn't listen to me...that they didn't understand me and I've felt that way with counselors my whole life...I have always been able to turn to my family and I always knew that they wouldn't be judging me...just loving me and listening

Not true...though most of them yes, but sometimes they abort a fetus that is already dead...it does happen, but I know what you are saying.

I agree! Well said!!!! Awesome!

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This is what I was responding to. When you said well if you would have read the whole artidle.... then I was saying I agree to when Mindy said well them put the entire article not just portions of it. I did not mean I agree that it was a spin...I was just agreeing that you should have posted the whole article if there was more to it.

Do not talk to me like I am your child. I am an adult. I am not a moron. I wasn't even the person that said anything about your post in the first place. I just happen to agree with a part of something they said. I did not question your credibility. I don't even know why you are coming at me like this when I have done nothing wrong. I have not intentionally tried to make you angry or frustrated! I am all for having an adult conversation and calmly discussing things, but I am not here to have someone talk down to me like I am a F$%&ing idiot. Please don't do it again. I have never talked to you like that I would like it very much if you would be respectful please.

I have not ONCE refered to anyone on here as anti choice. I have said pro choice and pro life. Look I am really tired of this battle of words with you. I have my choice...I am entitled to my choice and my choice is that I am pro choice. I have been pro-choice since I was younger and no one is going to change my mind...if someday I decide to change my mind then it will be my choice. I am not saying that what you are saying is wrong or right or that I'm right and you wrong...there is no right or wrong when it is an opinion. Please, I am tired of feeling like I am in a fight. I am not angry, I am not saying anything out of anger. I am not upset at all. Please can we just calm down and talk, not yell at each other or attack individuals, when the things you said above about anti choice and what not had nothing at all to do with me.

I never said that you didn't post all of the things saying this isnot all of it. I just said I agree when she said that don't expect us to know the whole story if you don't post all of it.

I mean that the an abortion is done, most of the time, without evil intent. Evil intent would make it murder...If you don't agree with it then that is okay because it makes sense to ME...and that's all that matters right

That wasn't even a long story...it made no sense to shorten it...The act was done with Evil intent which is murder...an abortion is not murder...that is why he should be charged...

I agree!!!

Yeah she was on the news because she had 8, but SHE set up the website begging for money. SHE went on Dr. Phil asking for help from him and people watching. SHE did interviews asking for people to donate and to help...oh and here is what we need....blah blah blah. SHE is the one that hasn't even bought beds or car seats for babies SHE KNEW she was having!!!! SHE is the one that is saying that she knows that churches in the area and schools are willing to help her with her kids and their needs...She didn't need just one more kid! She didn't even have the means to care for 1 kid let alone 14! She treats these kids like dolls or kittens not like kids! Oh look at the babies. She even said that she was having kids to fill a void that her childhood left in her, that her mother didn't fill when she was younger. When she had her first pregnancy she told her mom that it was a tumor when her mom noticed she was getting bigger. One of the men she got sperm from she told him that she had cancer and couldn't conceive normally. She is a liar. She is $50,000 in debt! She used her student loans to buy things for herself and her kids, she leeches off of everyone that she can scam into her little sob story! She is not innocent in this! Even her dad said that she is mentally not right...her own dad! Come on this lady is not in her right mind. You would take children away from any other mother that was suicidal and talking about harming herself or others? Why is this different? Because you feel bad for her? Come on! These kids don't even have thier own beds! They live in a dump!!! That is not fair for those kids!