Spinoza

Thanks to the link for the BMR and calorie calculator - it was really interesting!
I am at the tail end of my journey - still losing after 22 months but at a super slow rate - like half a pound a month now.
I am still like 500 calories a day below my predicted maintenance intake. I can only presume that I will need to stay well below that in order not to regain. Amazing how different it can be for people who look the same on paper. I wish you the best of luck OP xx

I have never gone the fruity route in my life and I'm not starting now 😂

*TRIGGER ALERT*
Vomited milk! 🤢

Oh I love your approach to this. I hope you're now out the other end of your surgery.
I really look forward to getting to know you. 😍

*TRIGGER ALERT*
Vomited milk! 🤢

I have never gone the fruity route in my life and I'm not starting now 😂

I have never gone the fruity route in my life and I'm not starting now 😂

Oh I love your approach to this. I hope you're now out the other end of your surgery.
I really look forward to getting to know you. 😍

*TRIGGER ALERT*
Vomited milk! 🤢

I picked a goal weight right in the middle of my healthy (hahahaha what even IS that?) BMI range. I had many many times lost weight and got there by various means previously. My surgeon and dietician thought it might be too ambitious given the average loss with a sleeve, so I was prepared to lose MUCH less.
You can do it any way you like OP! Perhaps pick a weight that you have been comfortable at before. OR a weight/BMI that you really want to reach, for whatever reason. Or lick a finger and hold it up into the wind.
Turns out my team's advice meant virtually nothing. I got to my goal weight and then lost some more. I didn't need to try or do anything specific - just stuck to my plan.
I wish you the best of luck.

Had a presentation lunch today at the family business. Wore navy extra wide leg trousers (bought early this year 70% off - bargain) & surprise … a patterned blouse. I like the style of the top & worn it before but I never feel totally comfortable in it. Just a little pattern averse!
Check out my fluffy Pom Pom slippers on the background - super stylish 😁😁

PS - I just did a quick google search on this. This is NOT a scholarly article, so there's that - but it does mention that bile reflux (as opposed to acid reflux) can occur in about 5% of mini-bypass patients. It goes on to say they see it more in sleeve to mini-bypass revision patients than they do with non-revisions. Again, I don't know what kind of research is behind this because this isn't a scholarly article - they may just be basing this on their specific patients. But again, let your clinic know what's going on. Hopefully it's just some kind of flare-up.

https://mexicobariatriccenter.com/bile-reflux-after-mini-gastric-bypass-surgery/

I know regular gastric bypass usually cures GERD, but I don't know about mini-bypass. It might (usually, anyway), I just don't know enough about that surgery to know one way or the other. I'd let your clinic know what's going on. Hopefully it's just a flare-up and bumping up for PPI for a while might help - but ask them before doing anything (I'm not a medical person...)

What stage are you at OP and what surgery did you have?
I had a sleeve 22 months ago and from a few months post up I have got my Protein mainly from meat/dairy (CHEESE but also yoghurt)/pulses/nuts. Deli meat is my go to snack even now.
I often cook a little more meat than I need for family dinners and keep the leftovers in the fridge for easy grabbing.
I make a point of eating nuts and seeds absolutely every day, even if small quantities, because I think they have loads of micronutrients that it's hard to get from elsewhere.
I haven't done Protein Shakes or bars or added powders in forever but I'm sure they're a godsend if you're having difficulty in the longer term with getting your protein in - I just don't need them because of my sliced turkey addiction, LOL.

What stage are you at OP and what surgery did you have?
I had a sleeve 22 months ago and from a few months post up I have got my Protein mainly from meat/dairy (CHEESE but also yoghurt)/pulses/nuts. Deli meat is my go to snack even now.
I often cook a little more meat than I need for family dinners and keep the leftovers in the fridge for easy grabbing.
I make a point of eating nuts and seeds absolutely every day, even if small quantities, because I think they have loads of micronutrients that it's hard to get from elsewhere.
I haven't done Protein Shakes or bars or added powders in forever but I'm sure they're a godsend if you're having difficulty in the longer term with getting your protein in - I just don't need them because of my sliced turkey addiction, LOL.

I have two Sith Lords telling me to turn to the dark side.

Cottage cheese also a big no from me. Have tried it so many times. Won't say what the taste and texture remind me of, but suffice to say I had really nasty hyperemesis in my pregnancies and drank a lot of milk in an unsuccessful attempt to cure it. 🤣

Cottage cheese also a big no from me. Have tried it so many times. Won't say what the taste and texture remind me of, but suffice to say I had really nasty hyperemesis in my pregnancies and drank a lot of milk in an unsuccessful attempt to cure it. 🤣

Transitioning to maintenance was both easy & challenging for me. Easy was that I had already made my choices about how/what I was going to eat & had been eating that way for most of my weight loss. What I found difficult was being able to eat portions large enough to stop the weight loss & work out how much I needed to consume to maintain. It’s why I kept losing for another 11 months. Though I also believe this was where my body wanted to be.
Yes, I weigh myself regularly & yes I worry about what I weigh right down to the grams. While I don’t consistently weigh & track what I eat every meal I am conscious about portion sizes & the calorie content of foods even when I’m dining out or socialising at a friend’s. I do random checks & introduce new foods/recipes slowly & carefully. And yes, I still do Protein first, then vegetables too & aim to stick to nutrient dense foods.
This is the longest I’ve been able to maintain my weight ever in my 58 years. But I’m not on a diet to lose or maintain my weight. This is just how & what I eat. (The power of words.) I enjoy eating & food but it’s a different focus in my life - it’s more about what I need & less about what I want.
Hell yeah, the old mindless eating habits are still just there sitting on my shoulder. (Can’t eradicate them though would be amazing if we could.) A bit like that angel on one shoulder & devil on the other. I try to keep the Angel of new habits I’ve established as the dominant thinking & actions. On the days the devil is stronger, I usually catch myself but … there are times. Though I try not to beat myself up if the devil wins.

This is what really scares me. People who have clearly done really well then slipping back into old habits. Thank you so much for sharing.
I am one of the people who is afraid to relax. Still clenched 100% of the time. I an eat a lot more now I'm almost 2 years post surgery. I do stick to the Protein first veg second carbs third ALL THE TIME though, maybe that's what's saving me. Do you think that might help you @SleeverSk ?
I've had a few planned strays from the path and one or two unplanned ones but I've been able to get back on the path immediately after (so far).
The tip I would share would be to track everything but I know that doesn't suit everyone. I would love to think that in another couple of years I wouldn't need to but I suspect I always will.
Really interested in others' experiences. Thanks for starting the thread OP!

This is what really scares me. People who have clearly done really well then slipping back into old habits. Thank you so much for sharing.
I am one of the people who is afraid to relax. Still clenched 100% of the time. I an eat a lot more now I'm almost 2 years post surgery. I do stick to the Protein first veg second carbs third ALL THE TIME though, maybe that's what's saving me. Do you think that might help you @SleeverSk ?
I've had a few planned strays from the path and one or two unplanned ones but I've been able to get back on the path immediately after (so far).
The tip I would share would be to track everything but I know that doesn't suit everyone. I would love to think that in another couple of years I wouldn't need to but I suspect I always will.
Really interested in others' experiences. Thanks for starting the thread OP!

This is what really scares me. People who have clearly done really well then slipping back into old habits. Thank you so much for sharing.
I am one of the people who is afraid to relax. Still clenched 100% of the time. I an eat a lot more now I'm almost 2 years post surgery. I do stick to the Protein first veg second carbs third ALL THE TIME though, maybe that's what's saving me. Do you think that might help you @SleeverSk ?
I've had a few planned strays from the path and one or two unplanned ones but I've been able to get back on the path immediately after (so far).
The tip I would share would be to track everything but I know that doesn't suit everyone. I would love to think that in another couple of years I wouldn't need to but I suspect I always will.
Really interested in others' experiences. Thanks for starting the thread OP!

This is what really scares me. People who have clearly done really well then slipping back into old habits. Thank you so much for sharing.
I am one of the people who is afraid to relax. Still clenched 100% of the time. I an eat a lot more now I'm almost 2 years post surgery. I do stick to the Protein first veg second carbs third ALL THE TIME though, maybe that's what's saving me. Do you think that might help you @SleeverSk ?
I've had a few planned strays from the path and one or two unplanned ones but I've been able to get back on the path immediately after (so far).
The tip I would share would be to track everything but I know that doesn't suit everyone. I would love to think that in another couple of years I wouldn't need to but I suspect I always will.
Really interested in others' experiences. Thanks for starting the thread OP!

This is what really scares me. People who have clearly done really well then slipping back into old habits. Thank you so much for sharing.
I am one of the people who is afraid to relax. Still clenched 100% of the time. I an eat a lot more now I'm almost 2 years post surgery. I do stick to the Protein first veg second carbs third ALL THE TIME though, maybe that's what's saving me. Do you think that might help you @SleeverSk ?
I've had a few planned strays from the path and one or two unplanned ones but I've been able to get back on the path immediately after (so far).
The tip I would share would be to track everything but I know that doesn't suit everyone. I would love to think that in another couple of years I wouldn't need to but I suspect I always will.
Really interested in others' experiences. Thanks for starting the thread OP!

Oooh I hope this is going to be a fascinating thread - what is 'it's gone too far' - is it in the eye of the beholder?? We might all have our own idea of that. Thanks for the chance to discuss this OP!!
I get asked pretty regularly now whether or not I am well (I SO AM) and whether or not I planned to lose this much weight (I SOOOOO DID). The inference being - you at best look thin of face and body, or at worst look really unwell (in that person's eye). I filter/ignore those comments depending on how much I trust/want to hear about that person's eye!
I think allowing people to do what they want to and need to with their bodies for their own reasons without judgement is probably a good thing on a general and totally generic level. I know it can be difficult when people go beyond what we ourselves are comfortable with, and then that it goes up another level if they do things well outside our norms AND societal norms.
If they are not hurting anybody then fantastic. Honestly you do you - if you want to have a skeletal face (and get paparazzi to follow you and your daughter for a day of "shopping") and it feels good to you then dooooooo it! And make your money out of it if you need that too.
Absolutely ready for a big old discussion on this one. 😍