Anthrodiva

The stomach still has open wounds until 8-9 weeks out. Personally I wouldn't pour alcohol into an open wound! Granted stomach acid is more caustic, but still... why take a chance?

I would suggest you consider seeking professional help for dealing with some of your emotions behind all of this. Also, clearly eating crap isn't advisable as you need nutrition to properly fuel and nourish your body and that is leading you down a destructive path again. I've sought therapy to help with my emotions and it's the best thing I've done for myself in a long time.


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Are you doing this to be healthy? To live longer? Then cut the crap.

If you're unwilling to do that, find professional help to figure out why you'd undergo surgery for no reason whatsoever.

Excellent post, Suzanne! I can add two reasons:
1. Some people don't want you to lose weight, because being around you makes them look good in comparison, and 2. Some people just aren't interested in anyone but themselves. I have known both kinds. I've actually used #1 as a comeback when someone mentions my weight--"Oh, you've gotten so big" and I would say "If it wasn't for people like me, people like you wouldn't look nearly as good." I could kick myself now. Then there are the #2 people. If a friend mentions that you've lost a lot of weight, #2 people will turn around and talk to someone else about their upcoming trip to China or something. They don't want to hear about you, only about what they are in to. I try to shed those people like Water on a duck.

Hi,

I had weight loss surgery when I was 63 and I am now 65 . I have been sleeved of 2 1/2 years. I lost 105 pounds on my journey. So I do know a little about what I am going to say. I have done what you want to do or have already done.

So I have been thinking about this. WHY do so many of our friends not say Yay! or I am happy for you?

1. They know NOTHING about weight loss surgery let alone when we say we are have the "sleeve" done?

2. They have not heard of any positive things about WLS.

3. They are scared for us because we are having some kind of surgery they no nothing about.

4. They think we are having gastric bypass (we know it isn't but they don't) and they have heard nothing but bad thing when it comes to this surgery. Dumping, malnutrition, people gaining weight back again, because they have stretched out their pouch.

5. The are sure we are going to die during the surgery.:thumbs_down:

6. They have never had a weight problem in their life.:censored:

7. They view this as the easy way out--it take more courage to have this surgery than to do nothing at all, but they beleive it is the easy way out.

8. How will you stop losing weight.

9. Is this healthy--they are sure it isn't.:hurt:

10. It cost too much money and you will never keep the weight off and WHY if you are over 60 would you want to do this to yourself?

So those are the top ten reason I can think of that the people are thinking all these things. I think if we are willing to talk more about it to them "AFTER" we have had the surgery and explain things to them--I say educate the uneducated friends that we have, they may be more willing to listen. There are so many people that just can't image that we would have surgery to lose weight, so they really have to see with their own eyes that you are OK and healthy and this is working for you. I know you want their support, but honestly sometimes it is just not going to happen.

This isn't something that we just woke up one morning and said hey I think I will have someone remove 80% of my stomach and then I will solve all my weight issues. We thought about this for a long time, we did some research, we checked with other people and joined web sites to educated ourselves.

So, don't let the uneducated people in your life stop you from doing what you know is right for you.

If you had a tooth ache you would go see a dentist to get it fixed--and they would think that is the right thing to do. We have an addiction to food and an emotional connection to food. What is wrong with going and getting the help we need to stop our addiction. This is our tool that we are going to use to accomplish the weight loss with.

It isn't a magical cure by any means. It takes time, work and effort on our part to become successful. A little support along the way also helps a heap!

Finding the right doctor to trust our life with and one who is highly skilled in the field of WLS is the next step. For me that was Dr. Aceves, and I can't say enough kind words about him and his skills and he GREAT staff and wonderful hospital.

I knew at 63 if I was going to take this giant step, it had to be with someone that I trusted and that had done a lot of these with no complications and was a skilled surgeon.

So when the next person you talk to rolls their eyes around because you are over 60 and going to have weight loss surgery, please just have some patients with them. The are very UNEDUCATED. We will work at educating them and letting them know that this really isn't about them at all. It is ALL about you and you have earned and deserved the right to have this surgery.

You will be making a lifestyle change and not be on a diet any more. You are going to put yourself first, for the first time in a long time. I want you to feel good about what you are doing because it is going to be a life changing event that is going to be so fabulous. Someone is going to call your "skinny" for the first time and you are going to smile and say "yes" I did it.

I am here every step of the way to assist, you and help you. I will answer your million questions you may have and help you deal with the emotions that you are feeling. I want you to know that you are doing the right thing by wanting to become healthy and add years to your life.

Hugs to you and you go for what you want in life. If not now then WHEN????

Suzanne

I gained eight lbs of fluids in the hospital despite being on nil by mouth some of those days!

I wish I had more than sympathy to offer. All I can think of when you mention pizza is how much pain it would cause me! That seems to do the trick -- someone on the boards mentioned popcorn and I winced. Once you get into puréed stage, try this to satisfy your craving.

Casserole dish
I can Tomato sauce
I can mushrooms
Mozzarella cheese

Microwave for about three minutes. I could eat about a ramekin full and it tasted a lot like pizza topping.

Also, refried Beans with cheese tasted extra good to me for some reason. There are lots of good recipes online, and I have a board on my Pinterest page Anthrodiva.

Good luck!

I wish I had more than sympathy to offer. All I can think of when you mention pizza is how much pain it would cause me! That seems to do the trick -- someone on the boards mentioned popcorn and I winced. Once you get into puréed stage, try this to satisfy your craving.

Casserole dish
I can Tomato sauce
I can mushrooms
Mozzarella cheese

Microwave for about three minutes. I could eat about a ramekin full and it tasted a lot like pizza topping.

Also, refried Beans with cheese tasted extra good to me for some reason. There are lots of good recipes online, and I have a board on my Pinterest page Anthrodiva.

Good luck!

Spinich and watercress is better than lettuce. Nutrition should come before fancing a salad in my humble opinion.
At 18 months I am having salads, however after getting my Protein in, I can only manage a few mouthfulls. Maybe the day will come when I can have just a mini salad as a snack, with some nuts.

I agree with @BigViffer, you have your whole life to introduce biscuits, dumplings and gravy back into your life. Use this "honeymoon" phase to eat clean, healthy, whole foods that are on your plan. No judgement here either, just a humble opinion by someone(me) who is a year out this month. You can do this, use this time to make positive life changing habits now.

I wish I had more than sympathy to offer. All I can think of when you mention pizza is how much pain it would cause me! That seems to do the trick -- someone on the boards mentioned popcorn and I winced. Once you get into puréed stage, try this to satisfy your craving.

Casserole dish
I can Tomato sauce
I can mushrooms
Mozzarella cheese

Microwave for about three minutes. I could eat about a ramekin full and it tasted a lot like pizza topping.

Also, refried Beans with cheese tasted extra good to me for some reason. There are lots of good recipes online, and I have a board on my Pinterest page Anthrodiva.

Good luck!

Yes I hit my goal daily plus I workout 5 days a week. So I felt that a couple bites of my husbands plate along with my order of eggs wouldn't kill me. I had a taste for them and do not wish to deprive myself as if I'm not human. I did not indulge and balanced it with my protein requirements the remainder of the day. Plus I'm trying to gauge what I can eat and can't.

I hit mine almost every day and generally keep my carbs below 40 a day. I got caught in a situation where I dropped my Protein Shake and had to eat.

You guys sound like fairly recent patients. Are you hitting your Protein goals every day? I don't know if you should even be eating the dumplings or biscuits so soon. They are for the most part nutritionally devoid of anything you need. I understand the desire to eat somewhat normally, but you have the rest of your life (i.e. maintence stage) to treat yourselves to those foods. Why do you want to introduce them into your diet so soon?
I'm not preaching nor judging, just bringing it up for discussion.

I bought a sampler a month ago ... 2 1/2 months out. Had a couple bites of chic/dumplings, a bite of meatloaf and green Beans. Took the rest home and divided into not 3, not 4, but 5 additional meals and that was after giving the meatloaf to my kid.

I'm almost 11 weeks out and had CB for the first time last week. Though I didn't have chicken and dumplings I had the hash brown casserole and a couple bites of a biscuit with grape jelly and eggs. I listened to my stomach and stopped when I began to feel that full feeling and was just fine. I think once you get the clearance from your doctor for solids you are good to go just eat one thing at a time to gauge your tolerance.

When you can eat everything like at two months out. Yes. You. An eat anything as long as it doesn't make you sick. Just tiny portions.

Exactly. Some weeks ago, I was with my nieces at Disney. It was afternoon, and they wanted icecream. After a while they would offer me but I would say no. Then they started making a fuss, so I accepted it from them. Combined, it was like 1/2 a cup. Funny enough, it was my first ice cream in 18 months.
I never cared much for icecream before surgery, neither do I now after surgery.. but i almost wanted to ask if it was okay to have icecream (as a sleever) because I didn't want a running stomach at Disney. I decided not to ask, lest i recieve a lecture about 'how my icecream eating ways got me to where I was'.
Anyway. My advice is two-way.
Many of us are 'sensitive' people, and I hope people keep that in mind. The goal is to advise in such a way that it won't be rebuffed. Some people are just curious. They ask for 'safety', not because they need 'enablers' or because they are looking for justification to begin bad habits.
On the other hand, we should accept that many people give 'straight to the point' answers/lectures, either based on past experience, or on (a) negative outcome(s) they have seen happen. The answer you may interpret as being harsh or judgemental, may simply be concern.

Calm down, no one is judging and no one is insinuating your are wreaking havoc on the honeymoon. @Montana Gal only mentioned the often used phrase honeymoon phase in reference to the first year post op. She even gave encouragement by saying "you could do this". No one is questioning your humanity nor are they saying they are perfect.
Me in particular, I am not judging any one because it makes no difference to me. Whether anyone succeeds or fails post op affects me not at all. I brought up the point in case the OP did not realize that dumplings are not really the best choice for any bariatric patient. You amy read my past posts and see that I generally only try to be helpful and not start tiffs on the forum. If she or you choose to have dumplings or biscuits knowing full well they are poor nutritional choices merely because you are wanting to test the waters, I'll just store that away and remember it for the inevitable questions that come next and then ignore them.

Just because you say no judgement doesn't mean it's not implied. The above comments feel rather condemning. If I was the sensitive type of person it would deter me from posting and even leaving this otherwise great community. Lucky for me I've found value here. I'm going to continue being honest in my posts here because that's who I am. Do you know how many times since my surgery (12/1) and honestly 2 weeks before while during the liver reduction diet I desired all types of foods I couldn't have? However, not once have I cheated in following my guidelines. So again considering every day I take my Vitamins and 98% (room for error as we are human and not perfect) of the time I get in my Protein and liquids along with working out 5 days a week doesn't constitute me wrecking havoc on the "honeymoon"

Something I always try to remember and remind other wls patients of: this process is about health, not weight loss. Weight loss is the result of the changes you are making to get healthy. If you do the things that lead to health (eating enough Protein, drinking enough Water, sleeping enough, keeping your body active, etc) the weight loss naturally follows, no matter what, and it will happen exactly the way and exactly as fast/slow as your body needs it to. Just keep making healthy choices and your weight loss will happen. You've got this.

I'm 8 months out and some months I only lose about 5 pounds and then 2 weeks later be down about 15. your body is going through a major change.

Hi meme21, Please don't despair it happens to all of us. Your body has to adjust to it's new way of life. I have gone a couple of months dropping only a pound or two. Just keep doing what you are doing and it will even itself out. I'm almost 2 years out. Best of luck to you!!

totally normal. I felt obsessed with daily numbers on the scale. It will come off! I am now 2 mos out and down 43lbs from my preop weight. I stalled on day 10 for about a week. It also seems like you are not losing, but if you track your weight daily you start to see pattern. Mine went like this:
12/12 231
12/16 225
12/18 221
12/21 220
12/24 217
12/26 215
1/2 214
1/4 212
1/11 211
1/14 209
1/15 208
1/18 206
1/19 205
1/24 204
1/26 200
2/1 198
2/4 196
2/11 194
2/12 193
2/16 192!

The days I didn't list there was no weight loss, so you can see, it starts and stops. Some days I swear I am going to get on the scale and see a 1 or 2 pound loss and it stays the same. Other days, not expecting it, I will lose 2! It averages out to 2-3 lbs per week which is healthy rate of loss.
Good luck!

I am over 3 1/2 years post-op RNY gastric bypass surgery. Most people after the operation do not vomit routinely. That would normally be due to an abnormality such as a stricture or ulcer. And those adverse conditions can be treated. I do sometimes vomit because of dumping syndrome, but that is my fault.

I had diabetes, high blood pressure, sleep apnea, and severe acid reflux (Gerd) prior to surgery. All those conditions went into remission within a few weeks after surgery and have remained there ever since.