MrsFlipFlops

I get 'em too... About 7 of them... I just pluck them when I see them. I don't want to go through the trouble of waxing for just a few hairs.

I think it's more because the reasoning used is not something you understand. Take the Big Bang theory for instance, no one knows for sure what really happened, but science says some stuff toppled together and then earth began. Somehow, that's enough reasoning for most people. I wonder, where did all that crap come from? Who made it? My logic is that nothing comes from nothing. If it exists, it had to be formed somehow, bugs, dirt, water don't just get formed on their own. Oxygen, hydrogen, and all our natural elements came from somewhere... before the world was. My explanation is that something bigger than you and I put a motion into action. If your explanation is more "logical" by all means, discuss. But it's not... because discussion on this thread leads to there not being an answer. Now, the difference between you and me is that you're willing to accept that "magically" they appeared, whereas I'm not. I guess I'm not naive and dependent enough on the science community to just say "Because we said so." I want more answers than that. Besides, how do you know my feelings aren't valid? There's no way for you to determine if the way a person feels is based on their own "intuition" or an actual prompting from a higher source. You can't just throw that out the window because you don't feel it too.

Forggi- in my experience, it's the fat. Because you can't get too close to your man. My extra fat/skin down there is taking up too much space. The more I lose, the better sex gets. For the first time in a long time I'M initiating it! :thumbup:

Frustrated- that sounds HILARIOUS! Hey, if it wasn't drinking it would be something else. I don't drink, but believe me, my mom finds something to complain about every once in awhile. Let's see, before I was married, she would....yes.... pray that would find someone and pray that he would accept me. I'm not talking in her private prayers, no no no... we're talking in front of the family or extended family. Then I GOT married and now she makes comments about my weight, me having kids... whatever. So, maybe it's good she's hung up on one issue... she doesn't have time to think of other ones! :thumbup: Good luck.

Take a Dreft bath! I got sunburned real bad with blisters and all before. Dreft is detergerent that's used for babies. Then when you get out, air dry and constantly apply aloe. I bought the spray aloe so no one would have to touch me. I applied every 15-30 minutes. Dreft is used in burn units in various hospitals. You need to soak in it for about 20-30 minutes to get good use out of it. It draws the heat out and stops the burning. (Your skin keeps burning long after you get out of the sun, which is why it's still warm). I went to the doctor when I got burned real bad once, they gave me some cortizone stuff, but it didn't work as well for me as Dreft and Aloe. Also, take tylenol.

froggi- I totally know how you feel. It's getting better now a days... but I count it as a workout too. I'm 330, 5'7" and I can straddle my hubby. He's pretty skinny around the waist though. Actually, had a NSV the other day... hope this isn't tmi- but there's not as much fat in the nether-regions now- actually "scored" without my hubby having to work his fingers! That's NEVER happened for me.

Hey, welcome guys! We don't get too much action on this thread all the time, but every once in a while it gets hoppin!

Yes, but clearly the atheist doesn't know enough about what they believe to distinguish the difference. And people blast Christians for not thinking on their own...

So BJean, if a president prays for help is knowing the right decision to make in a situation, is that mixing church and state in your mind? Realistically, putting the burdens of society onto the shoulders of churches and communities is not only logical, but financially responsible! The federal government is overburdened with welfare, disability, medicare and what not that I HOPE that churches take some responsibility for it. I'm GLAD for faith based programs because it eases our federal gov't financial burdens. Faith based programs simply allow churches and governments to take part and have some financial relief. Yet that's mixing church and state... I think we should talk to the mothers who have trouble feeding their kids at night where they care where their money comes from or if they care about the programs that brought it to them.

Yes... surgery was the first time I worried about the size of my organs. :biggrin: I even asked my husband before surgery "Do these pants make my liver look fat?" :wink_smile: Good luck and don't worry!

Sure, Brandy, that's of course something that can and does happen. I'm talking about my experience. People who once were believers, but a bad situation changed their minds.

No, what I mean is the majority of atheists I know had some life altering event which caused them to be angry at God, the higher being, or whatever and that defining moment has caused them to not believe. I'm sure there are people who never believed, I'm just sharing in my experience. I haven't done a formal study, so I guess we don't have actual statistics.

I agree, slam away.

So the fact that he's a Christian means he's shoving it down your throat? I don't understand your logic here. Obama is a Christian too, if he advocates something you don't like, is that shoving it down your throat by nature of him being a Christian? There are plenty of Christians who don't agree with the war as well, and there are plenty of democrats who are Christian. Perhaps we should get our a venn diagram. I'm not even going to respond to the Obama intelligent, good man line except to say I literally laughed and spit water onto the monitor when I read it. It takes more than ambition and ideals to run a country. He may have passion, but he lacks experience and pertinent knowledge. However, this isn't a political debate. I don't understand why people think Christians can't think for themselves. All I'm asking is instead of having this be a Christian bashing thread, let it be a discussion. I'm not bashing atheists, it's not fair for anyone to turn around and bash Christianity.

That's awesome Mss! Congrats! That always feels good, to FINALLY do something more and better! :tongue2: I know how that feels. Although I gotta say, your math is much too complicated for me! ;0

And realtor's comment about atheists being angry at God? Maybe it doesn't apply to you, but it applies to the majority of atheists I've met. It's understandable, someone who doesn't understand God's love and our purpose here on earth, I would be angry too.

Yet stating people choose their candidates based on their religion or their veteran status, somehow that's completely acceptable and not insulting? This is my problem with this entire discussion... somehow attacking christianity or religion in general is acceptable because clearly those who choose to believe in something are not logical or "weak" needing a "crutch" (thanks for editing, but you didn't fix the concept). When an argument is sent the direction of an atheist, we're "denigrating their intelligence" or sounding angry. Clearly this isn't an equal debate, you can't discuss or debate with a group of people who want to keep screaming "I'm a victim" without getting down to any issues. Everyone in this country has a choice to believe or not believe. No one is shoving anything down anyone's throats... do I share my beliefs, YES. Why? Because knowing what I know about God, Christ, the here after has brought me happiness. Being a kind person, I want others to share this happiness. They can choose to accept it or reject it. I don't believe in God... I KNOW God lives. We want to talk about freedom of speech... apparentely that portion of our country's beliefs only apply to those who are minorities in their thoughts.

We should vote for an inexperienced politician based on the color of his skin or perhaps because of their gender. That's much more logical and intelligent.

I remember this case, NAMBLA shouldn't have been on trial here in the murder case... NAMBLA is vile. There are other organizations that are similar to NAMBLA. I've attended several FBI trainings on them and other organizations. It's disgusting that these people, who advocate sexual crimes against our precious children, get to hide behind the constitution. Wait until your child is abducted by a NAMBLA member... I bet you'd have different views about their "rights" then.

Do you still count calories? I didn't at first, but just started to about 3 days ago- just to get an idea of how many I'm eating. I'm not limiting myself, just tracking for now. Do you follow all the rules like no sugar just sugar free? I have sugar sometimes, but I drink sugar free drinks. If I have a bite of cake or something, it's not sugar free. No caffeine? I never drank caffeine beforehand. Eat your Protein first getting 60 grams a day? Again, I didn't before, but I'm tracking it now about three days ago. I don't count it, but I eat my protein first. I tend to get anywhere from 50-80, I'm okay with that. Eat three meals a day? eh, mostly. I have shake for Breakfast, if you want to call that eating a meal. I have a snack. lunch and dinner.

Don't beat yourself up! Everyone has a candy bar now and then... I don't think one candy bar every once in awhile is bad. The reason I got the band is because I didn't want to "diet". I didn't want to beat myself up over everything I ate. The band prevents, as someone already said, the bingeing and eating too much. It's a tool to help us. But getting mad over one candy bar and a shake- don't do that to yourself! You're better than that! I've learned I can have some shake- I don't order one for myself, I'll just take a sip or two from my husband's. It fulfills the craving and desire.

That kind of stops you in your tracks, doesn't it?

leelee- my mom is in a wheelchair most of the time. She is lucky because she can swim and move a little bit, but she does do a lot of different activities with her arms and legs. Anything that keeps you moving, even when you're sitting. There is a tv station on her satellite that shows chair exercises. Maybe google it and see if you can buy a DVD the demonstrates some. My mom does leg lifts, stretches, lifts arm weights, even stomach crunches in her chair. Good luck!

Well wicked... if you're a slow healer (I don't know if your slow heal time was due to the surgeries themselves, or some people just don't bounce back as quickly as others), I can't speak for that directly. I took a week of work and felt pretty good. I was back to normal in 3, maybe 4 weeks with no soreness at all. The transition to a more active and healthier me has definately been a process. My family likes to eat... so it's been hard to get them to understand I have the stomach the size of a thumb. They do tend to get offended when I don't eat as much as I used to. But on the other side of that, I'm happier, feel better, more active... all things they notice on a daily basis. I don't have any kids, but I'm a primary caretaker for my disabled mother. We did definately have low key days when I first got surgery because I couldn't lift her wheelchair and when I had pain meds I couldn't drive. But I quickly recovered. Lifting things wasn't too big a deal... I had to go to Sam's for litter and just asked a worker there to assist me. I don't know what your weight is, but if you're sitting on prediabetes- I promise you'd rather have a little pain now than a lifetime of diabetic worries, pokes, prods, fears of losing feet and glaucoma... I'm more fearful of NOT getting the surgery. Good luck in your decision. I know it's hard to make...

I'm pretty sure my sunburn was caused by the band.... :thumbup: lol