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Most likely what will happen if you're really stuck is that you take a swallow of something, throw up whatever you swallowed and what is sticking remains there. so you'll probably throw up vinegar which wouldnt be very pleasant. Worth a try though. I've only drunk once to try to bring on a pb and I'll never do it again. I thought I was going to choke, I literally couldnt breath.

I'm vomit phobic too, I'm such a baby about it and the couple of times the kids have had tummy bugs since I've been banded, i've been panicking. I'm so bad I convince myself I'm sick. I'm not like that with anything else, I'm not squeamish, nothing, so I dont know why I'm so childish about vomiting. I hate it hate it hate it. But pbing when you've banded is NOTHING like vomiting. I cope with it matter of factly although its hardly ever happened to me, maybe 10 times in 4 years. I get the stuck feeling, which often as not passes on its own, but I get some little warning feelings in my stomach, them it will cramp tightly and I know I'm goign to pb, so I go and do it, its a cough and a bit of strong wretching and up ti comes, a small amount, instant relief. Its NOTHIGN like that awful nausea, pain, panic and them copius hot acidic vomit coming out your mouth and nose. But of course, you're not going to really know that till after you've been banded. But I promise, its nothing like real vomiting.

I think you make a good point Judy, that when you're *lighter* (only relatively speaking) than other WLS patients, people seem to think they have a right to tell you you dont need surgery. I had a BMI of 36 when I was banded and I dont care what anyone thinks, I was not losing that weight on my own. I would have a BMI of over 40 now if I'd continued on as I was going. I needed that surgery as much as someone who weights 400 lb needs help. I was just lucky enough to get that help at an earlier stage. I also bristle when people insinuate that you shouldnt have WLS for cosmetic reasons. Well, I wasnt sick, in fact I was still pretty fit, which is why I've been able to build to such levels of athleticism post band. But I looked terrible - fat, sloppy, out of control, I was behaving that way, I was getting lazy and my fitness was beginning to decline. I wanted to look a certain way, dress a certain way, start my new career looking great, have the energy to stay young and not become another fat frumpy 40 something. What on earth is wrong with that and why shouldnt I have surgery to achieve it, particularly when said surgery will protect my health and quality of life for decades to come? Why is it OK to fill your face with toxins, stuff silicone in your chest, go through major surgery and pain to slice off bits of your body but I'm unforgiveably vain for having WLS (and no other cosmetic procedures I might add)? Give me a break, that's a ridiculous argument! Keeping it to yourself avoids all those judgements. Unfortunately, i dint come across them in real life, I came across those opinions on lapbandtalk! Astounding.

Conceivably weight gain could make your band tighter as weight loss certainly loosens it. But it wouldnt be an overnight thing like you mentioned. Somethiing has more likely irritated your stomach and caused swelling.

I dont have that much control over my body, lol. Either I'm going to slime painfully and it goes away or I'm going to pb and I cant stop that happening either. I dont have the choice to "let it come up". It either will or wont. But I have gotten better at it, I think I instinctively fought it early on and i have never in my life made myself vomit to "feel better" and probably couldnt do it even if I tried. But I can relax and let a pb happen and it happens more quickly with less resistance these days. Oh golly, that sounds suspiciously disordered doesnt it? Only another bandster would understand.

I eat about the same things as I did before, just way less of them. However, I do choose healthier more often. But if I want something not so healthy, I have it. I have tried very hard to rid myself the good food/bad food diet mentality forever. I dont want to count calories and/or Protein for the rest of my life. I agree, that's not what normal weight people do. I also exercise like a fiend with running, bootcamp and circuit training. You dont really need to count calories so carefully when you burn so many.

I know people cant help being anxious over this issue, but there's really no point. If you're losing more than 1-2lb a week, then you probably dont NEED a fill. So why worry about not having one? You dont get a band to never feel hungry again, you get one to feel normal levels of appetite and hunger. I didnt have my first fill until 12 weeks out becuase I just didnt need it. Yes, I started to get hungry and my weight loss slowed from a pound a day to 1 to 2 per week over that time, and yes, I did start to eat more but I was still losing, so why worry? If your doc doesnt give you a fill this time and you are beginning to get hungrier, then you will probably eat a bit more and then your weight loss will slow and you'll get one next time, but hopefully, he'll be reasonable. I simply said to my doc, yep, weight loss is good but I am beginning to feel hungry, so perhaps just a tiny fill? And that's what we did, I had lots of teeny fills, not three huge ones. But its much easier the way it works in Australia becuase my doc is a few suburbs away and fills cost me nothing. I think setting weight loss goals is absolutely pointless. You have no control over what your body will do and you have no real way to truly control your rate of loss. You WILL plateau out at times too. People hardly ever lose regularly every week -my pattern was more like 2lb a week for a few weeks after a fill, then nothing for three or four weeks, the suddenly four lbs would be gone overnight, then nothing in a month, then six pounds etc. In other words, totally random. It AVERAGED 1-2lb per week in that I lost about 75lb the first year, but it was i no way steady or predictable. And there was nothing I could do about that so i didnt worry about it. I also appreciated that my doc was realistic too - I dont think I ever went in with no loss at all, but sometimes it was only 2 or 3 lb and we woudl discuss fill levels and such - but no accusations, or directions to do better.

Honestly, I'd wait. You've still got a lot of weight to lose and the next 90 will make much more difference than the first 57 did. I found that I was in despair over my saggy boobs, and that awful bra cup lip for most of my weight loss, I was a 40DD before and am a 32C now. But the last 30 lb REALLY shrank my boobs and at a C they sag less and are much more manageable and although they are just skin (I've also breastfed for six years) I can wear push up bras and such again without spilling over. But the difference in my breasts with the last 30lb was major and would most definitely have affected any plastic surgery I'd had quite markedly. Just 40 lb ago I was thinking about a breast REDUCTION as I was still a DD and hated it. I'm not a fan of big boobs, lol. And suddenly, they shrank to a nice C. Also, go and get fitted. If your bra is riding up your back, you are wearing too big a back size. I always assumed it was my large breasts that caused this to happen, the back would ride up to my shoulder blades, straps would fall off my shoulders and I'd look as dumpy as if I were braless. In one fitting I went from the 40DD to a 36E. It made SUCH a difference. The support them came from the back strap, not the shoulder straps and I looked much better, and was more comfortable, and my bra strap stayed mid back, it didnt ride up.

portion control only. For me, part of recovering from being overweight was giving up dieting and the dieting mentality forever. I'd had success with this in the past (but its very hard to ditch a lifetime of dieting habits) but I still ate too much to lose significant weight. To me, no food is good or bad. I dont believe in beating yourself up because you ate white bread and i dont believe in fooling yourself that becuase you get 100 grams of Protein in your day you can forget about the other crap that comes in packaged food like protein shakes and lean cuisines. I believe you should eat white bread if you want to and you should drink protein shakes if you want to, or you can do BOTH but neither makes for a good or bad diet overall. Moderation, common sense and proper portion control are what's important. Worked for me anyway, along with lots of tough exercise.

I didnt think they could becuase that will paralyse your lumgs. I thought they could only do a surgery that required a spinal below the waist. So to have lapband surgery it wouldnt be a spinal where you feel absolutely nothing? Its more sedation. Eeeeek. I'd far rather be out cold. But then again, lapband surgery is not particularly complicated, it doesnt involve cutting up your organs, only entering your abdomen, so it probably wouldnt be as freaky as the though of having a caesar and being awake was to me.

I struggle with fruit and nothing I do - cook it, mash it, puree it, makes it easier. An orange or a crisp apple (peeled and cut) works and banana would be OK only its like oysters to me, if I really chew it and taste it, I'll gag and vomit. Its a 2 chew max food. But stone fruit, grapes, melons like rockmelon and canteloupe, or worse, fruit salad, ugh.

Oh yeah, the smaller my boobs got, the happier I was. I woudlnt want to be flat chested, but a C is great and I cant figure for the life of me why women actually want D+ sized breasts. When I had them, I hated them, they made me look and feel matronly and heavy.

It is scary isnt it? I think that realisation was my defining moment in losing weight, I always read the stories and wished I could have a light bulb moment, but it never happened. Then one day, I was feeling really scared about the surgery, trying to decide whether I wanted to do it or not. In a moment of complete self honestly, I realised that what I was scared of was not being able to stuff a packet of chocolate biscuits down my cake hole. Did I really want to give up that guilty pleasure? I suddenly realised that I *did* use food to cope with stress. I realised that I did get something out of eating like that, it was enjoyable and comforting and I chose to do it for that reason. It became clear to me that the reason why i was having trouble deciding to have the surgery was becuase i wanted to leave myself an out, I wanted to choose not to eat that way but still be able to! And of course, following on from that was the knowledge that if I ever wanted to lose weight and keep it off, that behaviour had to disappear forever, lapband or not. After that, it was easy to make the decision and not feel scared.

I think the recommended 2 year waiting time after surgery for PS is a good idea too. I found I was obsessed with this stuff right when I hit goal, which was 2 years ago now. But since then, my body has settled, I've gotten used to the new me, and I just dont really care about having perfect boobs, or whatever, anymore. I think you need to let your head catch up a little or before you know it, you've nipped and tucked every part of your body. In the last 2 days I've put down $8,000 on a holiday to Thailand and $5,000 to the tiler who's redoing both of our bathrooms. We're going couch shopping for a gorgeous cream leather wraparound on Saturday. So we've probablys pent $16,000 in a week. Not something we do often, lol. But obviously, if I really CARED about the PS I could have priorised that. But truth is I dont. PS is great, of course, if you want it. But you might find over time, all these little niggles and worries cease to bother you.

Great feeling isnt it? I bought some pants the other day, I tried on the (Australian sizes) 12 and they were just a little firm around the waist, so I bought the 14. Well, of course, an hour of wear and they'd relaxed a little and now I have these enormous size 14 cargo pants! Cant take them back as I wore them, but I dont even care.

Sizes seem so small when you wear a large one. But your size 14 is our 16 to 18 and even though I'm 5ft 10, for me, that's still rather LARGE. I'm straining the high end of my healthy weight range to wear a 16 and 18 is overweight, I was last an 18 at about 185lb. Way too heavy for my 5ft 10. At a healthy 150lb for my 5ft 10, I'm wearing an 8 in US sizes. So like Vegas says, its PROBABLE, not just possible that you'll be even smaller than a size 14 at a healthy weight. Most women are smaller than me and have healthy weights under 150lb and that would place a good percentage of them at less than a 14.

If you try to explain it, it sounds really depressing, lol. Like, eating is always slightly uncomfortable. There's always the risk of something getting stuck, every meal involves multiple sensations of not pain, but warning or discomfort. Some end badly, lol. You never know what's going to go down well and what wont. For me, Breakfast every day involves forcing something down I really dont want and tricking my body by eating it in small amounts whilst walking around doing my morning stuff. lunch means having an appetite and being hungry, but not wanting anything, standing around trying to decide what to eat. The real pleasure has gone out of eating, but i still enjoy it if that makes sense. No, you cant explain it, can you? Because its not as bad as it sounds and every little inconvenience is worth it 1000 times over.

I have restriction and I cant drink when I eat as it causes great discomfort. But I can eat ANYTHING. Some things are harder than others - apples and other fresh fruit are hard for me, but I still eat them, just carefully. I had a very strong craving for a Bic Mac a while ago - not a food I have a problem with overeating and not somethign I'd crave often, in fact its the only time in 4 years, so what the heck, I'm a healthy weight, I had one. I ate 3/4 of it, I took it slow but I had no particular trouble. that's from someone who's 4 years out, well and truly at goal (and past it) and maintaining with no trouble. I do a lot of exercise, so I dont need to have my band very tight and this way, I find there's absolutely no restriction on normal eating. I've had to learn of course to handle the "sometimes" foods, but that's a GOOD thing. I dont really desire to have those things off my menu simply because they're impossible to eat because then I dont think you're really learning to manage your own eating.

My doc does recommend keeping a can of coke around for this purpose. A big gulp will probably make you vomit - be warned though, i've drunk on top of major stuck and I thought I was going to suffocate, its an awful feeling but the vomiting does bring relief.

Well, no guys appear to be answering so i'll pipe up, lol. As a man, you have more muscle than a woman and are probably generally bigger, so you need to eat more. You really probably dont need to go below 1500 but exactly like a woman, its trial and error. There's a million sources on the internet that will give you a ball park figure, but you need to go by your weight loss and how you feel an adjust accordingly. Even as a female, but a very active one, I lost all my weight easily on 1500 a day or so, and I maintain on 1800 to 2000, so you probably would be able to do at least the same, if not eating more.

I've never had this happen, so I dont know what to suggest. if you're getting liquids down, you can afford to wait a bit, but you'd want it cleared relatively soon - you might be in for an unfill to let it pass. I'd ring your doc.

Oooh good luck Fanny. Surgeon's are so silly about this weight thing, as if 72kg exactly is the ONLY weight at which you will be healthy. Do they not realise that those are STATISTICS - which means you absolutely cannot apply an absolute to any one person. You could be a 72kg smoker and drinker or a 64 kg runner who lives on freaking mung Beans - who is going to live longer? Or you could be a 60kg pot head or a 72kg yoga and lentil enthusiast. the best weight for you is one you like, one that looks good on you, one that you can maintain with healthy measures. Dont let someone else, even a doctor, tell you what that is. Perhaps you could ask him if he's heard the latest research saying men with small appendages live on averate 6.72310 years longer than the ones hung like donkeys? It's about as sensible.

Truly, you can do yourself real damage by doing what your'e doing. You wont even know it until sometime down the track, your band slips. There are good reasons for the liquid to mushie to solid diet and you really really need to stick with it now, even if you're hungry. Its not fair, some people like me find this stage really easy and some dont, but we all need to do it. Your stomach needs to heal, and making it work to churn up solid food will prevent the scar tissue building up and adhering the band solidly to the stomach wall.

For the post op diet - I'd definitely rely on the surgeon's advice. for all else, the nutritionist. But even then, I'd make my own decisions based on my own beliefs becuase being a nutritionist is a lot like being a personal trainer - you work according to your own beliefs and those are based only really on current trends, not absolute medical proof that what they advise is best. Ten years from now, their advice will probaby be outdated. Anything works if you do it consistently - low carb, low fat, low calorie, etc.

That's a good way of putting it. Yesterday I put down $8,000 on a family holiday to Thailand and today I'm paying the tiler $5,000 to retile both of our bathrooms. So could I afford plastic surgery? Yes. Could I look better with a bit of plastic surgery? Yes. Do I value it above and beyond other things? No. Because I look fine, much like most other people. Good place to be. Maybe one day I might get a nice pair of bouncy boobs, but then again, I might get a really expensive leather couch!