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Sashimi is raw but its just fish or fish on pieces of rice - rather than rolls. I tend to buy sashimi packs if I'm out and about and need to buy lunch and I just pull the fish off the rice and leave probably 2/3 of the rice behind becuase its just too filling. Otherwise, because of the rice, I think sushi's like anything - fine in moderation but dont have it on a day you also have bread AND Pasta kinda thing. I'm not a low carber but its pretty stodgy and gets stuck for me anyway.

Well..,. I'm 5ft 10, started at 245 and got down to 130 very easily (took almost three years). I dont low carb, dont count calories, eat bread, Pasta and rice, I do NOTHING eating wise apart from portion control. My "secret" is running daily - I swear running is magic in some way that other exercise isnt. I find it absolutely no trouble to keep that weight off and stay thin even without fill in my band. I dont get these high goals - at 175 as a teen I was beefy and got heaps of teasing for being fat - and I was desperate about my weight when I hit the 200 mark - its still obese for pete's sake, you're selling yourself way way short if you think its the best you can achieve with a band. You're having surgery, why not have faith in yourself that you can take it ALL the way? However, that's just MY personal opinion. Like someone's mentioned above, so many of us cant believe that a healthy weight will be right for us but it will. Its only averages and statistics of course but keep it in perspective - a normal BMI of 24.9 is not exactly skin and bones, its a pretty healthy, well covered curvy weight for most and for some - like me who has a fairly fine boned, and lightly muscled tall built - its still actually too fat! For someone else who has bigger muscles it might be just right but you can bet your bottom dollar, there's no real reason to have a BMI of 30 apart from either being Mr Universe with mega muscle or simply still being overweight! But take it as mini goals becuase you CAN stop where you like how you look and feel the best and BMI really is a load of hooey compared to factors like how you want to look, how easy it is to maintain a give weight etc.

Mine usually sits at around the 95 to 100 over about 50 or 60 without medication. Its not a problem if you dont feel faint or unwell from it. I'd say your meds need adjusting but I'd wait till you see your doctor, its not anything to panic about.

Yes, you may not feel any bad effects from eating but causing your stomach to churn and digest and break up food will mean that it doesnt get the chance for form scar tissue around the band and the stitches, which is ultimately what holds your band in place. If you're eating solid food, the churning will break up that scar tissue as it forms. You may feel fine, but suffer a slipped band further on down the track. The more thoroughy its healed into place, the more likely you wont have any complications.

I've done my first few classes just recently and really liked it, although I could stand to improve my flexibility a tad! Having just been through cancer treatment, and being exercise wise, a real "no pain no gain" kinda person, I like to literally kill myself exercising - the harder the better and I love stuff like sandbag training and bootcamp. But recently, I've sort of felt that I need to nurture my body not run it into the ground and to be honest, although I've lost a ton of fat, I've never had the results from that sort of training that I would like to see in terms of strenght. Until I'm ready to teach full time again I've had a job teaching gymnastics to young kids abnd I've really noticed how much my core strength and flexibility is lacking. So I decided to try yoga. To be honest, its a bit slow and not strenuous enough for mebut I've continued with two classes of week for pure flexibility and relaxation and through that I've also moved into more gymanstics and ballet style training and I'm getting absolutely phenomenal results from it! Its unbelievable - i think I've found what suits my body type, I've shrunk inches without losing weight!

Its just so true that the control comes in spurts - I've just come off the tail end of months of admirable self control, it was easy, I was in the zone like you say. I had to be completely unfilled for a surgery, I lost weight with the surgery and I've managed to hold my BMI at 19 for seven months, purely with diet and exercise and that all elusive willpower. I just looked at it sanely, logically and sensibly and had myself convinced that if I behaved a certain way, a certain result would follow - which is the truth. I thought I had this licked and I would never need to fill my band again. But yeah, like you say, gradually over time, being able to eat wonderful things like toast with jam (mmmmmm), being able to enjoy that restaurante meal in its entirety - it creeps back in on you, doesnt it? The one thing that saves me is I worked to get really fit so that to go out and run 10kms and burn 800 calories in an hour is not hard for me and I do that nearly every day. So I havent regained weight - yet. But my eating is definitely on the slide now. I just have to hold out about six weeks for a second minor surgery and then I can refill and I've changed from thinking I wont need to refill to being very impatient to get back to my doc! I would so love to have this monkey off my back for the rest of my life - to be a naturally thin person without these issues, but such is life. To anyone else, I look like I"m one of the lucky ones - thin, fit, I dont overeat. Nobody could guess how hard I work for that and i guess I dont really say it that often on here because people seem to have thisw impression of me as one of the effortlessly successful bandsters. Yet it is true that I lost all my weight without dieting - simple portion control was all I needed - I ate about 1500 calories a day from ALL food groups and still do - no logging, no low carbing for me. It was easy as anything in that sense - but that's because of the exercise I do. I swear running is magic and everyone oughta try it!

Like anything, you get out of it what you put into it. If you're fit, then you're going to struggle to get a really good workout, but if you're in more average shape and you push yourself, you will find it "exercise" even if not very strenuous. I have a gym membership and sometimes I used to l do it ;particularly when pregnant, just for the heck of it, and follow it up with half hour of lap swimming afterwards - since the hardest part of swimming is actually the hassle of getting to the pool and then wrecking your hair and fake tan and nailpolish in the chlorine (lol) and you're already there so you may as well make the most of it. I swim intervals and really push hard. The main thing that annoys me about Water aerobics is the poor quality music - lol - usually from a portable CD player and usually hits the 80's - and not the good ones! I personally think there's an opening for a really revved up style of water aerobics for the under 50's - like Spinning or Body Pump - we need to get Les Mills onto this! My gym does ahve one deep water aerobics per week and THAT really is a pretty good workout. The "little old ladies" can be surprisingly fit and they're generally great fun and just as normal as you or I - intent on getting a workout. Like any class everyone can work at their own pace. Actually, I'm about to have another surgery to finish off my cancer treatment and you've put the idea in my mind that this might be a good way to ease back into it for a couple of weeks since I did really tire myself out running ten days after a massive bowel resection, lol.

Yes, but I dont think its to do with the band, I think its the fact that I've gotten older, moved into my 40's, had cancer and gone through radiation and chemotherapy and as a result gone through menopause, it was bowel cancer I had and I've also had to deal with an ileostomy and having a bag (which is temporary) and just the general feeling that my body has somehow let me down and I'm now measurably older and no longer a young woman sort of feelings. On top of that, pelvic radiation does actually do damage to your bits. So there's really no mystery there and plenty of practice does keep those feelings alive somewhwat..

You've got to get smart with it. When I got banded, I decided to start running because you can burn massive amounts of calories in a short time, at the speed I run, I can burn about 500 in half an hour and I knew that hard as it would sometimes be, I really COULD find half an hour most days. I certainly dont have time for the gym with a half hour of cardio and an hour of weights kind of routine and I dont even really have time to drive the 10 minutes there and 10 minutes back for a class. So..... I dont. I was also doing bootcamp but at the moment, having had a large surgery, and six months of chemo, I'm feeling like being more gentle on my body and apart from my runninng and doing ballet/yoga/pilates style routine for toning (and its working WAY better than weights ever did for me). I started this after I began teaching gymnastics to young kids as a casual job and realised that despite my 'brute strength", I really have no true functional core strength, nor any grace or flexibility. It kinda made me think that maybe making your muscles all short and bulky aint all its cracked up to be, well, not for my body anyway. Anyhow, I digress, the point is I've taken a forty minute long Callanetics routine and fit it in in brief five minute spurts through the day (i'm also doing relief teaching and I've fit in these exercises at the start of recess and lunchtime before I go for my coffee, lol) - and am getting truly great results without even feeling like I spend any time doing it. That and a run every day and I've gotten back into great shape after my big surgeries.

Lol, maybe he's lying half dead on the living room floor, too weak to phone for help?

Water, but not so much that you dilute your body's salt and electrolyte levels. I had a few months of wicked night cramps recently, just after I had my ileostomy surgery. Because with an ileostomy you lose a lot of water and salt from your body anyway, and because I also had chronic diarrhoea so I lost even more I was having leg cramps every night - water and a lot of added salt to my diet did the trick, and lots of foods with potassium, like bananas.

Oh, yeah, that was a rude, sarcastic comment for sure. I would have probably hit her, lol. I dont give a rats behind what someone else thinks of my decision, to me it was worth it, and they can think what they like. But I might have said something very rude back to her, like F*ck off! But that's just me, I'm not shy.

Lol, this reminds me of a thread on here a year or two back where people were talking about running with a gun. My jaw literally hit the floor when I read that, I was completely gobsmacked. I havent ever even SEEN a real gun, people just down own them here - yeah, air rifles and other such things maybe, but a personal gun, that you actually carry? It just doesnt happen. Yet these ladies were talking about it like a completely normal thing. But in principal I agree, it is dangerous - my DH wont let me run after dark even when its only 5.30 pm and I'm running round white bread middle class suburbia.

ooooh, I'd try it but it would take me a few weeks to get a copy shipped here. It looks completely mad - right up my alley!

hehehe, its ticker, not tickler!

iron will - for me there's no compromise. I cannot have a small amount of something or a chocolate substitute or just one cookie when i feel like a pig out. If I start, that's the end of it, so I just dont start.

I lost about 120 which was much more than I technically had to lose, its taken me to a bmi of 19. The first 80 was quick and easy and saw me to the 'normal' range, the rest took about 3 years. I now maintain with no fill - because you have to work the band you learn new habits.

Well, I prefer running, but it fits in with walking for the purposes of this discussion. You can do it anywhere, anytime, take your shoes on holidays and run every day so you see a new area and dont come home fat! Like you, I'm not comfortable riding on roads! I also hate cyclists on the road with a passion as a driver, I know they have a right to be there, and I know we have to share the roads, but they're still darn dangerous, they hold up traffic, they're apt to pop out at you when you least expect it, they're difficult to see etc. I dont want to annoy people by being an inexperienced cyclist on the road. Cycling and spinning also really bothers one of my hips for some reason. It requires expensive apparatus too and if you're really seriously into it, it gives you huge legs and a sore butt. I'm not a big fan.

I think the thing is, you still need to eat relatively the same amount of calories over the week - ie. you must balance out a high calorie day with a low calorie one! It cant hurt to try it, some people swear by it. Myself, I know I have the odd high calorie day quite without plan, simply because some days I eat badly. I have to eat badly for four or five days to really notice my weight go up though. And it doesnt happen overnight, but a week later or so. i always think I've gotten away with it, but damn, there it is a week later! It sure doesnt speed up my metabolism and make me lose.

Thanks Brenda, that's really encouraging to hear. I'm finding this the scariest part of the whole process, I was much less worried about the bowel resection and ileostomy creation than I am about trying to find normal again - I have no rectum anymore so who knows what its going to be like!.

Exactly, your perspective is different and you'd not make a comment like that with a nasty motive, simply with a view to "boy, I wish I had your problem". People forget that they've been there and got fatter and that it does actually pose quite a health risk.

Oh goodness, opening a can of worms, lol. There have been all in brawls on here about this topic, with heavier people getting into those of us that had lower BMI's, suggesting that with a bit of willpower, we could have "done it ourselves". Well, my response to that is that if it were so frickin easy to lose weight when your BMI is 35, as mine was, then why the heck have these heavier people gotten even fatter than that. There are definitely people that feel they are more deserving, that they suffer more because they are heavier etc. In those cases, the question can be spiteful but its more about them than you. Other times, people genunienly dont think a BMI under 40 is that heavy. It is actually obese but people are so used to seeing such huge people these days and hardly anyone of a truly normal weight that it seems 'normal'. Their question really does reflect that they dont understand that you are feeling he effects of obesity at that stage. By the same token, we've had huge arguments because some of us, me for one, cannot understand how anyone could be happy with losing down to a BMI of 28 or 30 and stopping there. To me, that's still rather fat, pretty fat actually. But that's because I havent been morbidly obese, its because I somehow was lucky and did lose right down to a BMI of 20, and I just have a different perspective on it. I'd be desperate if I put on weight back to a BMI of 25 again. You do this to please YOU and that's all that matters. By and large I dont think people mean o be rude or nasty, they hjust see things from another perspective.

Ugh, I'm about to have an ileostomy reversal and i've been told by my surgeon : Never. Trust. A. fart. Sounds great, not. I think I'd rather have a bag. Yours should clear up when you're eating more normally but some metamucil will also add more bulk if you can tolerate that yet. I'd ask my surgeon before taking it though, although you drink it, it might not be considered "liquids", not sure. Mine, well, I gather I'm going to be stuck with sharting for six months to two years, eeek.

Very similar routine and intake to Cocobean - 3 meals, maybe a small snack, and I eat bread, rice and Pasta. yesterday for example: breakfast - 1/2 cup muesli, with skim milk and a few slices of banana lunch: 2 sushi tuna hand rolls and after that rice had gone down, an apple afternoon: a handflul of barbecue shapes (a wicked little savoury cracker that entices you to eat the entire box) dinner: lasagna (teeny tiny piece, lasagne is pretty darn fattening) and garden salad That would add up to under 1500 I'd be guessing and is pretty similar to how I ate whilst losing. I run for about 40 minutes to an hour most days of the week. I maintain 135 lb pretty reliably.

Hope you feel much better. I dread the day. Its been five and a half years and I'm a teacher and have 3 kids and I havent caught it yet, how lucky is that! Touch wood! I do seem to have a natural resistance to tummy bugs but then again, I do get any horrid snotty cold that's going and get really sick with them. I have pb'd that's been more like vomiting before - acidy and yuck, simply due to having to heave repeatedly to get something up. I think its wise just to keep anti nausea medication to hand. I've just finished 20 weeks of chemo with no vomiting, but i've got scripts with about six repeats of Zofran which is super duper effective so i just keep some of that to hand.