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Girlfriend, you ain't neva lied! I am so jealous that I could NEVER bring anyone else to the party. Definately not another woman, and certainly not another man, because I don't want HIM to be upset either. We just keep finding new ways to please, tease and tickle each other!:thumbup: :crying:

Respectfully, PattyGreen, Her actions speak so loudly I can't hear a word she says...

Maybe we could use software to have a 'virtual' toy party online...a webcam to show off the toys, special teleconference logins (with passwords) sent to invited guests, and invoices sent via Paypal for secure payment... Just my techie brain working...

I seriously doubt that the benevolent and loving God that I know would be happy about her trying to make money off of her innocent children. They did not ASK to be brought into this world - she, of her own FREE WILL (a wonderful gift from God) chose to circumvent HIS set-up of this situation. She was unable to have children naturally (without help from IVF) - who's to say that was NOT God's will because he, in his infinite wisdom KNEW what kind of irresponsible, selfish, overwhelmed, unintelligent mother she would be? **EDIT** The above statement was in no way intended as a dig against those who undergo IVF or other treatments because they truly want children. Infertility is a horrible situation when you want and would love to have children, however I believe Nadya was NOT prepared for her first group of children, and is NOT prepared to take care of her second group of children. **END EDIT** I have VERY LITTLE sympathy for her and her predicament, because she chose, of her OWN FREE WILL to bring about this situation. She should have seen her first precious children as the Gift that they are and endeavored to take the best possible care of those children. They are HER responsibility, and since it is patently obvious she was NOT taking sufficient care of her current children (home in foreclosure, etc) it was no less than criminal for her to continue to pursue more children. I chose NOT to have more children when it was obvious to me that I was struggling with the one child that I had. I was unable to provide a home for him without help; I also had to accept assistance at first to help feed and clothe him. I accepted that assistance, but then put myself through school and a rigorous training program in order to find a job that would allow me to take care of myself and my son. I had help - and she will NEED help. Her plan to continue her education is a good one - she will need to generate a really good income in order to take care of her large family and NOT continue to be a burden on the taxpayers. If she truly wants to make a good life for her children, she needs to stop seeking celebrity (the love of the "world") and focus on HER CHILDREN. I personally would be doing everything humanly possible to make a home for my children (all of them) and lining up support to help with their care - NOT seeking celebrity, publicity, or how to sell my story to the highest bidder!

Congrats on the shopping trip, Tap! That must have felt awesome... I'm disciplining myself not to shop any more until I drop at least another size...I'm down two sizes so far, but I had so many multiple sizes in my closet I still have clothes to wear! :ohmy: Once they are falling off of me (or maybe before that) I'll buy a few things for Spring - knowing that by Fall I will be too small for them and have to do it all over again! Yay! Can you tell I LOVE to shop? :crying::w00t::thumbup:

ROFLMBO....thanks, Beth - I just spewed Coke Zero all over my computer screen...

Yeah - what others said...we missed you Tap! Luluc - your hubby sounds like a definate keeper! Made me remember when my DH and I got married...money was tight, so I had a band but no diamond ring. It was okay - I got the man...well, he re-enlisted and got a sizable bonus. He bought me a beautiful diamond engagement ring with part of the bonus...even though I thought at the time that there were other things we needed more. He said I was the most important thing in his life...I've never been loved so well. Through all our ups and downs, he is a wonderful constant iin my life.

Hi Plain! :crying: No problem with you asking...right now, he is not into "penetration". Probably part of his very conventional male upbringing...he will allow me to touch him there, but penetration is right now out of the question. I say right now because who knows what the future brings? I have heard that some men find extreme pleasure in penetration with a finger or other slender object, because it can provide additional stimulation. Haven't yet tried it...if he was willing, I'd give it a shot...I'd do that for my lover!

This is such a sad story...if she's having trouble keeping track of her children when there are only 6 of them, how is she going to handle it when there are 14 of them? The fact that she stated over and over again in front of her children that she was going to kill herself is reprehensible. I can understand being overwhelmed - I've been there - but I have NEVER threatened to kill myself - and would NEVER say such a thing within earshot of any of my children. Why, oh why did they allow this woman to undergo IVF in the first place? It does not seem to me, with everything we've heard about her, that she is fit to parent so many children. Her reasons for having children were ill-advised at best, and now that there are 14 children to have to deal with, she is clearly not going to be able to handle it. Yeah, I know - some might say that no one is ever truly prepared for a child, but my goodness! I was a single parent - not by choice - and if I hadn't had my family to help me out, I would NOT have made it. My mother was there to help me, my niece-in-law babysat while I worked, and my grandmother was a fount of wisdom and experience that I tapped on a regular basis. This is what I needed, and with just one child who was perfectly healthy and had no learning or behavioral issues. I do not see anything that Nadya has shown the world that makes her capable of even minimally parenting 14 children. She is not parenting the 6 that she has! I sincerely hope that CPS does not send the preemies home with her - they will not be safe there.

Kat - I *heart* you...you make such good sense, and temper your tough love with compassion. I agree that she needs parenting classes - perhaps a mentor relationship with another parent with multiple kids would help her. She needs to stop seeking the limelight and put her children first. I don't know how she expects to handle 8 additional children when she's having trouble with her autistic child (if indeed that is the child that was on her lap) and with caring sufficiently for her other children. It's been reported that the other children are already showing signs of being jealous of the new babies, and she can't watch all of them 24 / 7. All it would take was a moment or two of inattentiveness, and the next news story would be about one of her older children smothering one or more of the babies. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, and I pray it does not happen, but without her taking on some help, I just don't see how she'll care for all of them. They deserve better - the babies and her existing children. Perhaps when they are all older and more independent, they would be able to better accept each other and be more help to her, but right now, they need the freedom to be children. The paparazzi stalk stars like crazy - can you imagine how difficult life will be for these children? It makes me shudder to think of it...

Checking in... Still have good restriction from my second fill...that part is going pretty good. I still need to make better choices! I am a confirmed carb addict - if it's crunchy (crackers, chips, etc) then I'm there... I have been doing a bit better, because while my numbers on the scale haven't made a dramatic drop, all my clothes are getting looser and I feel lighter. The rowing machine and the work out I found are awesome - I started just doing the 20 minutes and now I'm adding music before and after to get the workout up to 30 minutes. I am up to 4000 m on the rowing machine, when I started I was barely getting 1000m. I feel like a breakthrough is coming - I've just got to stay consistent and keep moving, and I know that weight is going to fall off eventually. Aloudwhisper - something that I've found has helped me lately is to eat "bulky" veggies and nothing but fresh fruit. I was eating canned fruit cause it's mushy, but that's the very reason it didn't fill me up! I bring in bags of baby carrots, cucumbers and tomatoes with me to work, and munch on those. I also bring in one or two pieces of fruit to help with the sugar cravings. The fresh produce makes me chew more (jaws get tired, I stop eating!) and they also fill me up more quickly. I'm working with my head hunger too - it's my constant companion and I have succeeded somewhat in dampening the voice, but not eliminating it entirely yet. sxevan - check your workout shoes - as bountiful beauties, we put more stress on our feet and joints than less-well-endowed individuals, so you may have to splurge and get fitted / analyzed - go to foot locker and have them work with you to find a shoe that gives you maximum support and comfort without a lot of weight in the shoe. Once you find the right ones, then go on Ebay and buy future pairs there. It will save you some money - it's where I get my shoes now that I know which ones to buy. You may also have to replace your shoes more often while you are training and losing - your feet take a real pounding when you are heavy... I can't tell you how much better my knees feel just since I lost the little that I have - I can only imagine the 'spring' in my step when I reach goal! :confused:

Cosigning on what Ceradad and Luluc said...this is one of the hardest things I've EVER done...and I really resented the statements! Shar-pei Dad had that fat deposit pattern WAY before his WLS...you can see it in every picture of him from "before"... Not giving the uninformed in the audience valid information is just wrong...they may inadvertently stop someone from investigating WLS who COULD be helped by the surgery! That's just irresponsible...is there a way we could protest? And...do you think they'd even listen?

:confused::confused::lol::lol: EbonyRose eagerly awaits response from Plain...:eek:

Amen, and I say again, Amen...it's just too bad when government has to legislate common sense. Both for the prospective "mother" (in quotes because I don't consider Octodummy a real mother) and for any other "doctor" that would consider using the shotgun approach for implanting embryos. I pray it passes and then spreads to other states. Who's to say there isn't another idiot practitioner out there doing the same thing but that hasn't had the light of reason aimed at them yet? Maybe the spectre of national legislation will encourage some of the clinics to change their policies pro-actively...

PJTP... WAY TO GO CERADAD!!!! That is truly awesome - now you, your story and your gorgeous family will be inspiring others for a longer period of time...how awesome! Some of us will be blessed to touch even one life in a significant way - you have the potential to help hundreds or thousands of people because of your willingness to share your good results. You Go my Banded Brother!

Amen, and I say again, Amen!

PJTP...Thanks for the belly laugh!

Hey folks! Loved the challenge on this one...packing food for those less fortunate puts a real "usable" goal at the end of the challenge and puts the focus on someone other than the contestants. Good idea, in my opinion... Why am I not surprised that Laura (miss whiny wop) would sit out the challenge when Sione had an injured ankle and would have been better placed at the belt packing stuff? She is such a WIMP...all that crying and snot flowing and crap...I'm with Jillian on this one - I hope this shook her out of her sense of complacency. My DD and I were just yelling at the TV for her to grow a set and get over herself already! DD says she is Joelle, just a different skin color... *snort* I do like that they were making the entire group responsible for each other, but putting all that pressure on Mike wasn't exactly fair. I don't think he made the goal, though I'd be happy if he did. If he didn't make it, then send Shar-pei Dad and Whiny Weak Laura home... ITA with those who feel Tara might be hard to take on a daily basis, but gotta admire her gumption and refusal to quit. The gal is a serious competitor...DD also feels that Laura compares herself to Tara too much and that might be part of the reason for her spinelessness...she thinks she can't compete with Tara, so she quits trying. I think someone in her childhood made her feel bad for being competitive and trying to come in "first" or "best" and it had such an impression on her that she now refuses to compete and doesn't really know why...sad, just too sad...

Mornin' all! Loved seeing the guys' perspective...and good for him for being brave enough to post here! Plain - that goes for you too... I have had my "salad tossed" - my hubby enjoys it and so do I. He isn't yet 'comfortable' enough to let me reciprocate, but does very much enjoy fellatio and manual stimulation of his testicles (gently, now!). Again, as others have said, cleanliness is critical - you can't expect someone to enjoy tossing a salad with grit in the leaves, now can you? :scared2: Re: the guy who likes "being bent over and taken"...if that's what makes him happy, at least he's open enough to admit it! Perhaps the idea of being submissive to a strong woman who will enjoy him that way is what he wants - not necessarily being submissive to another man. *TMI Alert* My DH and I have an alternating dominant-submissive relationship - we take turns being dominant, but I am most often the dominant one. He likes it that way...and since I am a strong woman who likes to be in charge, I kinda like it that way too. Now back to your regularly scheduled discussion...

PJTP... LJM - I'm so, so sorry to hear about your friend...cancer sucks! It's never easy to lose someone you love - sending you a big hug and praying that your spirit and your heart are lighter as time goes by... Baby farts - I'm laughing at my computer as I read that again...aren't they just too precious? Makes me miss my grandbaby...I think a road trip is definately in my future, but with my schedule at work it will probably be summer before I can go. Working for a college pretty much means that during the academic year, you are on lockdown! :scared2: DH is in Washington, DC for a few days on business, so I'm bored with nothing to do...trying NOT to eat my way out of my funk...

Aww, now...you're gonna make us wait, aren't you? I pray this is the one for you, Donna! I'm still feeling my way through my fill - it was my second, and my restriction is kinda weird. Bread is a no-no most of the time, but occasionally I can eat it. Raw veggies are going down really well - maybe because I consciously chew them a LOT - mostly baby carrots and cucumbers cause I like the crunch. I think I'm making progress - the scale hasn't moved dramatically, but all my clothes are looser and I feel less winded than I used to. We'll see what consistency brings - I am also going to increase my rowing workout this week and see what happens...

PJTP... What luluc said - details, girlfriend, details!

PJTP...I don't want to be at work, but here I am... Ewww! :frown: :thumbup: Congrats, Susan - I'm happy for you! Keep us up to date on what's happening with you...I pray all goes well!

Lawd ha mercy.... That she turned down an offer of a home for her children and help to keep them healthy and safe just shows how ignorant and selfish she really is. Because she would have to agree to keep them out of the public limelight, and therefore SHE would be off everyone's radar?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :thumbup: :frown: She really needs to wake up - SHE is not the "star" she thinks she is (or could be) the babies are all that we, the general public, are concerned about. Her JOB - if she were mentally stable enough to accept and do it - for the next 18 years would be to RAISE those children, keep them safe and healthy, and to love them unconditionally. That she has turned DOWN help makes me absolutely freaking sick - and in my eyes, that makes her an unfit human being. She is not a mother - a true mother would not put her beloved children through this just to make money or raise her own social standing. I hope she loses custody of ALL of her children - they deserve better than that walking meat sack for a parent. She will raise a group of therapy-needing, public-assistance-taking, bitter and resentful human beings who will then go on advice shows and cry about how they were neglected emotionally by a mother who thought of nothing but her own fame and potential fortune and who thrust them into the public limelight by irresponsibly adding 8 additional siblings to their familial group. This is not a family - it is an american tragedy...

Okay - forget what I said earlier...hopefully Pilot Boy will stay on his side of the office, so to speak and get un-weirded... You definately deserve better, girlfriend...and I believe you're going to find it *sending positive vibes, energy and thoughts your way*