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Lee No he won't be able to eat the 16 oz steak loaded baked potato - Soup - salad & dessert after being banded - but isn't that what got us in the posititon to need the band in the 1st place. I can eat 4 oz of a good steak (filet migon from costco) 1/2 of a reg baked potato and some veggies - If I go to a mex restaurant - I use to eat the basket of chips - taco, enchillada rice and Beans - and sometime would add a relleno to that plate.. Now I go out and eat a few chips & salsa - 3/4 of my taco and few bites of my beans - I bring home the enchillada and have it for lunch the next day. Is it worth it - HELL YES for me it was worth it - I am loss 100 lbs in a year - I feel 10 yrs younger - the quality of my life has improved ten fold. I now hopefully have extended the years I have left on this earth (God willing) Food is our drug of choice - and it's a very hard thing to give up - do I miss it ya sometimes I do miss sitting down and pigging out - just like a person who quits smoking misses it - but it wasn't good for them so they gave it up - or like an alcholic missing drinking or a druggie misses their drugs but then know that it was killing them ruining their lives so they chose to give it up... Food is that for us.. How much you can eat will depend on how tight your band is - I usually eat 1 cup for Breakfast & lunch and dinner maybe 1 to 1/2 cup. I now eat like a normal person - I eat normal portion sizes - I eat healthy & I exercise - ya for me I can no longer eat a submarine sandwich - but I could eat the inners just not the bread - I am lucky I can still eat most food that give other banders problems - shrimp Pasta rice and even a little bread. The band is the tool that I needed to help get control of my life - but it only does 25% of the work the other 75% was up to me as I am the one who chooses to eat healthy (and not around my band) and exercise Our addiction to food is more mental than phyiscal - so its up to him - does he want to stay obese so that he can continue to eat like he does now - or does he want to lose the weight improve the quaility of his live and hopefully his longevity too.. Good Luck on your journey....

You bet and I am 19 months out - banded 7/17/07 & am at my sweet spot and I feel this exact way after mostly dinner every night... This is called head hunger - satiety it's a whole new thing - we aren't satisfied with lets say 1 cup food - yes our tummies are full but we still want to eat - we are not satisfied mentally with the amount of food that we just ate as we are use to eat 4 x as much. Think about it you are full physically and stomach growling means that it's digesting food that's all - its not that you are really hunger - as you just said you are full - but menatilly you are not full - remember they banded our stomaches and not our heads and IMHO that's where the majority of our problems are.. I say for me that my head hunger manifests its' self in to what I think of as real hunger - but how can I be really hungry if I eat another bite I will pb.. Like you said the new tummy is full.. The full nerve is at the top of the stomach not the bottom - so really this is just head hunger Gang - this is a whole new arena for us - most of the time we didn't eat cuz we where physically hungry - we didn't stop even when we were physically full - we ate cuz it tasted good - it how we got our seratonin (sp) hormones going which reduces our anxiety - soothed us do to whatever was the reason we ate was - and it could be just something as simple as being bored. Food is our drug of choice - Please understand that it's not going to let go of it's hold on us just cuz we got the band.. Yep the band makes us fuller on a smaller amount of food - but it doesn't deal with the reason we ate. Only we can do that. But I will tell you I am right there with you - most nights I eat my 4 oz of fish 1/2 c veggies and then try and stuff in 1/4 to 1/2 cup rice - and really truly I was physically full from just the fish... Just a little bit of my experience as a bander for what it's worth.. Good Luck !!!

HERE'S MY POST FROM LAST NIGHT WHEN THE STUPID COMPUTER WOULDN'T LET ME ON - I EMAILED IT TO ME AT WORK SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO RETYPE !!! pretty smart :tongue: I just lost my friggin post - hit submit reply - can't find the web page you are looking for - stupid ass computer... Phyl - Yep I still get gas pains in my shoulder every now and then. Karri will have to answer the running question Karri - where are you - how's the food and exercise going - how's the counseling going Kari - been to the gym ::frown: Denise - how's your fill Donna - stick with bland foods - take/chew a couple pecids before bed - I am glad you are getting it checked out,. I worry about my band at times - cross fingers nothing ever happens to it - cuz I would go to Mexico and get the sleeve. Peaches How's your Mom - Wedding Plan and the job - how are you doing on your food and tracking - haven't seen any reports since we've been back from Vegas Steph - What did the doc say - how's the shoulder Car - You have been quite lately.... Well tonite interviewed/met with the house/dog sitter for when GS and I go on our cruise next month - Like her a lot and think my babies will too. Well off to ck my other thread - Good nite Ladies talk to you all tomorrow. cross your fingers that this works - but I have copied in case it hasn't OK Now !!! Good Morning... I like smashbox too - I love the waterproof eyeliner - but have found it drys out to fast - I usually only rim the inside of my eyes for night time outings or if I am feeling especially wicked - I sometimes think it's a little harsh on me - I am a tad older that both of you :huh2: and pple of a certain age :cursing: have to becareful not to go over broad on makeup and I have always been a makeup girl - so I have to becareful that I don't look like a 50+ trying to look like a 30 something,.. Treadmill sounds great - now use it - don't hang clothes on it :wink: I use to be an avid reader prior to my band - but since lbt I don't read as much - I use to read at least 1 book a week - in fact I am still buying them - just don't read as often - I have the new john grisham on my coffee table right now - but between the gym - LBT - and my t.v. shows - sleep and work - there aren't enough hours in the day :tt2: Well - I need to check my desk - and get it in order for the day... Happy Wednesday Ladies - I will cbl :thumbup:

Donna - I think Candice has had this problem a tiny bit and I know that Linda (she doesn't really post anymore) had bad acid reflux at nite so much that it hurt her tummy - how long between eating and going to sleep ?? Have you tried taking a chewable pectic before bed. I only had this happen once when I was in the early stages and I can contribute mine to late night eating... I am glad you are going to the doctor - that's your best bet..

Good Morning Ladies 8:00 mamo - hope they don't find anything this time around but it's usually the one that I have in July that they find something - I wonder if it has to do witht he heat Not much to report since last night and I was able to sleep even with the cup of coffee I had last night Steph - what did you buy?? Gotta tell ya'll I love the Chaz Dean hairstuff called "WEN" it's a shampoo conditioner (no soap) as most of you know I have fine hair and didn't think it would work on my hair that it would weight it down - but oh no it's great - Sweet Almond Mint - My new fav product.. My hair feels so great - well time to jam - ugh I really don't want to do this - but I guess I have too... TTYL

Phyl How was your Red Hat Lunch ??? Steph & Denise - Yes I saw this morning the Ground Hog Day Special Payment - but I am not watching - those easy pays seem to last forever - and I just sent them $500 on the 1st - I don't need to be extending anymore easy pays - I still have 2 due on my gold bracelet - I got a $25 gift card for my bday - I am going to buy more Wen hair stuff - I love it... Denise - I had a pair of pants like that - I paired it with a burnout velvet jacket.. with a lacy tank underneath... Steph - GF shoulder - I thin you need to see the real doc and get xrayed !!!!! I did 200 lbs leg press tonight - 160 was the max I have ever done before... Feeling pretty damn good for a 54 yr old grandma !!! Ok it's 8:30 - I need to go eat - and hope I can go to sleep tonight - I had a cup of coffee around 7 - just cuz it sounded good..

Good Morning Gang Candice ck'd out the site - flying out of vegas saves like $100 and that's for a 4 hr car trip - I would rather - pay the $100 :0) - I will have to see how $$ works out right now - going to TX this month - Crusie next month - but will do my best to work it in the budget... I won $50 the 1st quarter of the game - I taped and only ck'd out the quarters cuz we had a pool here at work - I wanted AZ to win cuz I don't like the Steelers as I am a Cowboy Fan... Kari - I don't have your winters so - that may put a crimp on my exercise too - I an not enabling you here you understand - but you really should on the days that aren't bad get to the gym - I wouldn't put my life at stake to get there but I would try to go.. Denise - Yep a fill & treadmill should do the trick and no you can't say at 800 c a day just low carbs - this has to be somehting you can do forever !!!! Phyl - Red Hat I love it - how neat your Mom sent you $$$ Love the letter too - I know when I first joined lbt - some one wrote a dear John letter to their lover food sorta like this one... Well gotta get my butt in gear - tons to do cbl:wink:

Candice How come you can fly from canada to vegas for $425 incl hotel and it's 730 for me to fly just to yyz....

That's something I am (flexable) I am more flexable than my workout partner who's 28 - both her and my trainer are amazed at that.. Now she is way stronger than me now she can do legs pushes 500 lbs - I can do about 160 Great going on the exercise - you know me the x-hater of it now the biggest pusher of it...

Well you think mangement might get the hint?? Doubt it !!! Ok I will ck out flights to that airport ... Steph - I hear you - glad to know the teachers are frustrated too - and I do know it's about the job - it's that way here too... I haven't been able to help with homework (math) since gs was in 6th grade :thumbup: !!!

Oh - I saw my commercial on t.v. last night - they really didn't do it like I thought they would - it's almost like a commercial for the station's health section and doctors - weight loss surgery they show a pic of doc bobby talking (but you don't here his words) then the couple's before pic and them dancing - then the other lady throwing her big pants away - then my before pic and then me standing there talking (but again not hearing my voice but the voice of the commercial saying - go to their homepage to check out the doctor) I look ok - you can see the diff between the before and after - but you don't here me talking - ... and the one guy who filmed with us didn't even make the commercial .. A girl at work who had seen this - said I looked big - she was just being mean - cuz I don't... But I'm dissappointed that you don't hear me talking... Well they are showing that commercial and the one with the couple so maybe - they have one of me saying how much wls changed my life - that was the whole pupose of the stupid thing..

Good Morning Gang I did 4 miles this morning :thumbup: Now getting ready to pay bills :eek: Candice - What's the closes airport to you - need airport code to check out prices for airfair... Steph Hugs GF cuz I don't understand a damn thing you are talking about :lol: Sounds to complicated for my pea brain - heck school now a days is to complicated for me and I don't think the kids know any more than I did with this whole new teaching stuff - in fact I think most kids now a days don't know the common every day stuff - need to go back to the basic - reading writing and arthimatic... Now adays it all about teaching just to pass some dumb test so the school gets $$ from State - and not really teaching the subject - just have enough info to pass the test - if the kids had the foundation then then could pass the test - but when GS was in school it seemed like they were just concerned that they passed the test didn't matter that they really didn't understand the whole concept of math or whatever... Cornell notes in 6th grade - ok ya we have had this conversation before - All I needed to know was what I learned in kindergarden :0) well really up to high school but grade school was where I got my basic and I might not know who to do algerba or figure out the sq root to something - but I know how to run my life - with the help of adding machines - excell worksheet - word - email and internet... Well time to see that I am broke - cuz my bills are due - so I'll ck back after I am totally depressed :0) Phyl -- how are ya feeling - where are you going and doing I think I am staying home today - but got $$ to deposit and gift cards to spend so who knows.. Karri - how you doing Kari - been to the gym Donna - hey girl Denise - 2 days no little monsters..

Bonnie Here's the link http://www.lapbandtalk.com/f260/im-here-help-64725/index130.html Tracking is good !! If you are good at maintaining - the damn it girl we will get you to maintenance !!!! This isn't a diet #1 - we are just eating healthy.... Come to my thread - post then start at page one and start reading - it may help you some... See you there !!!

Thanks Kari - Ya those sites collect info and I bet this one does too.. cuz I see doubleclick when pages are loading and I am pretty sure that's and adware something - Car or Phyl our resident computer literiate pple would know - I just know enought to be very dangerous.... Heck in my office - they barely want to give us holidays - infact when we were HRH I had 27 pto days - when the guys bought themselves back my pto went to 20 - then we bitched enough and got it up to 25 but still lost 2 days... xoxox J Steph Thanks - it's 2 yrs really I was banded 7/07 and this is my 2nd bday since banding - last yr I had a fill that was way too tight and on 1/24 184 - 1/31 180 - but what was worse was I couldn't go out to eat for my bday last yr cuz of that fill - well don't have that problem now - and haven't had a fill since then and heck he took out all but like .01 of the fill on 1/23. xoxoxo J Aw GF hope the tummy gets better - we have pple running around with colds - so I am staying away from them.. xoxoxo J

Thanks Baby Girl !!!!

Thank you Denise & Phyl !!!! 54 yrs young today :cool:. well I really won't be 54 till 9:30 tonight .. I am going to take a picture this morning and compare it to 52 (250) 53 (180) 54 (138) Pretty damn good if I do say so myself :thumbup: May not get it posted til tomorrow - going to dinner w/GF to night - to bad I have to work today - I think that we should all get our Bdays off.. :wink: Last night I didn't get on cuz I had Fedx when I got home My DS & Family sent me a Garmn W/bluetooth (gps) - so just after I got my tom tom figured out - I have a new one to figure out. So I was messing with that till like 11 :eek: last night. Thanks Again Girls !!!!

During my weight loss phase I kept my calories between 800-1200 varying them daily.

Good Morning Gang Just my usual ck in - in the morning...

Slim&healthy - Welcome - yes it takes some time to get use to but the more you are here the more you will know how to get around etc... Have you join the January 09 monthly support thread - Go do that and introduce yourself to other 1/09 banders - then just look around and ask questions - you will find someone who will answer - When I 1st joined I ck'd out the the banders who were banded in 7/06 - also since I am in the 50+ range :0) I posted alot their as they had pple who had been banded and could answer my questions. #1 thing I learn on here (and I joined prior to being banded) is that our band is only a tool - it's not the magical cure to our issues with food...

Car - ya 2 nights of not getting to bed til 3 or 4 in the morn... Party animals that we are :ohmy: Yep My Dear GF - I had a good time toO - but it was just too short and as you know by the tears when you left - I was going to miss seeing & being with you - it's so awful that we live so far apart - I think if we lived in the same town we would have a great time OK THAT'S IT GANG WE ALL HAVE TO MOVE TO THE SAME TOWN !!! ISN'T THAT A GREAT IDEA - NOW WHERE... Karri You just a BIT of a control freak -:eek: ah that's so hard to beleive (NOT ) Well I gues there is sometime be glad of - that we don't have smell a computers :lol: but seriously glad you are feeling better... and this too shall pass - have you tried some beano Ok gang it's 8:14 and again I haven't eaten yet - so I am saying nitey nite - I will talk to you all in the morning - sweat dreams.... Hugs & Love - Janet

Welcome Tiffeny - Congrats on your weight loss - you are doing great...

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BSWhip Congrats on your 50 lbs 1st of all I don't think you should concern yourself with how many cc's you have in your band - we can have the same size band and I can be at my sweet spot with 2 cc's and it could take you to 7 to get to yours - People on here are to worried about the number of cc's all that counts is that you have restriction.. Truly what is a real indication if you need a fill is how much you can eat at one sitting - by that I don't mean mashed potatoes - ice cream - chips - cookies or anything soft - those are all slider foods and that band doesn't really restrict the amount of those foods you can eat... What it does restrict is hard proteins ie meat - I can eat anywhere from 1 c to 1.5 cups of food per meal - 4 oz meat 1/4 to 1/2 cup veggies (depending on what kind) and then 1/4 to 1/2 c rice for dinner - thats about 300 calories - I am physically full after this meal - I might not be mentally full -and that's where most of our problems lie - we don't eat cuz we are truly hungry - we eat for the joy of eating - the comfort of eating - the dull the pain from eating - for each of us it can be diff - but we really do eat just cuz it taste good.. Your band is only a tool to restrict your portions - it doesn't make your food choices for you - it doesn't exercise for you... Losing weight is all about calories in vs calories burned - the band is in place to restrict/force you to stop eating - to make you full on a smaller amount of food - but you can eat around the band by eating high calories foods (fat & sugar) and slider foods and by grazing (eating something every couple of hours) A fill doesn't make your pouch smaller it make the hole between your pouch & stomach smaller - to make you full faster. We can't tell you if you have stretched your pouch only your doc can by running test. Suggestion - keep a food diary - track your calories and that will tell you what you need to do - In my weight loss phase I ate between 800 - 1200 calories a day and I varied them and I exercised 4-5 times a week. You need to learn to eat healthy & exercise for the weight to come off - this is a lifetime lifestyle change that only you can make - your band will help in making the change but IMHO it only does 25% of the work by providing restriction the other 75% is up to you by making good healthy food choices and exercise... Talk to your doc - give him a copy of your food diaries that's what he's there for to help you - does his office have a support group and are you posting on your 4/08 LBT support group...

Rose - my name is Janet - I have a mentor thread - here's the link http://www.lapbandtalk.com/f260/im-here-help-64725/ it's under the forum section -Under Mentor/lapband buddy mine is like the 1st one - it has the most pages and view.. Please come and we can talk there - and you can read my prior pages to get a feel for who I am :0) we don't just talk band - we talk life.. Yes this is so very doable... I will email you a sample menu Look forward to getting to know you - Hugs - Janet

Chayamom I am a firm believer in weighing and measuring and keeping a food diary(dailyplate.com or fitday.com) - you don't have to do this forever just until you learn what is a normal portion size and how many calories are in your foods - knowledge is power - as fat chicks we think a pint of ice cream is 1 serving of ice cream - when in all reality it's 4 really 4 servings. A normal serving size is usually 1/2 cup - look on the container your food comes in - it gives you the portions per servings - calories - carbs - Protein etc - you gotta read labels.. 1/2 c refried Beans is like 126 calories and protein 6 grms I was able to eat this amount per meal when I was at your stage. You are going to find out every doctor is diff - you gotta follow only your docs rules I didn't get my 1st fill until 8 weeks out and that's pretty normal It really doesn't matter what size your band is or how many cc's are in it - a lot of pple here concern themselves with that and I don't know why - cuz for each of us it's totally diff - we both can have 14 cc band - I could be at my sweet spot with only 1 cc and it could be 5 cc for you.. So don't worry yourself with those numbers - the only thing you should care is the # of calories in the foods you eat and the #'s on the scale... Losing weight is all about the math calories in vs calories out - Our bands are only tools to help with the amount of food we eat. You will be in what's called bandster hell time between surgery and your 1st fill - during that time you need to concentrate on eating healthy I am not dieting - I am eating healthy and exercising.. and for me that's the secret - I allow for real treats (cake cookie chips) but not every day- I eat low fat - limited to sugar free - some carbs/starches - when I want sweets it's normally sf stuff -