No game

I hear that if something at GNC doesn't work out you can take it back..
As for the shakes I know it gets old but keep chugging (lol chugging get it ) along because they are so very important.
If it's just a question of bored (with your old shakes) and not throwing up that is good. Look at them like the necessary "medicine" to help your body heal. Also try buying some Torini SF syrups to help change the flavor a bit or even PB2 powder

I understand the disappointment.. I know what's it like to work hard at something only to have a roadblock thrown in your way. There are many days when I feel like I'm swimming against the current. And well, it gets tiring....
Take your day and feel sad, you have good reason.
But don't give up! Like I said, you have done so well getting that weight off, keep doing what you are doing diet and exercise wise. Be strong, fight the feeling of defeat and let them try (and succeed I'm sure) again.

I understand the disappointment.. I know what's it like to work hard at something only to have a roadblock thrown in your way. There are many days when I feel like I'm swimming against the current. And well, it gets tiring....
Take your day and feel sad, you have good reason.
But don't give up! Like I said, you have done so well getting that weight off, keep doing what you are doing diet and exercise wise. Be strong, fight the feeling of defeat and let them try (and succeed I'm sure) again.

And I will be here to "fix" it for you

I do have a binder! love it...didn't even think about that helping. Thanks

I understand the disappointment.. I know what's it like to work hard at something only to have a roadblock thrown in your way. There are many days when I feel like I'm swimming against the current. And well, it gets tiring....
Take your day and feel sad, you have good reason.
But don't give up! Like I said, you have done so well getting that weight off, keep doing what you are doing diet and exercise wise. Be strong, fight the feeling of defeat and let them try (and succeed I'm sure) again.

Hehe please do. That, made me chuckle, a lot!

And I will be here to "fix" it for you

costco, you can't go wrong with Premier Protein shakes sold there. 30 grams of Protein, pre made and shelf stable.

Lol arts I was W-A-S-T-E-D after the first shot!!I came in, was immediately handed the shot (by two evil sisters in laws) and was a giggling drunk fool after the first!
The funny thing I've noticed with the sleeve.
And I'm not a drinker I can go six months in between but the few times I've tried it I get really buzzed after just a bit and then as quickly as it comes it goes! So if I have another glass it doesn't hit a buzz anymore..
But that night well two bottles of tequila, oh and I guess we hit a bottle of whiskey afterwards too
And yes I was drunk. But still the girls that weren't sleeved (sisters in laws) and who drink on a more regular basis. Were in a bad bad way at the end of the evening..

Jo, The 27th wow ok you were just sleeved! First things first, take a slow deep breath.... In......and out.....
For the next two weeks you should concentrate on two things only, and that is you and your healing. Now is not the time to start looking at the bigger picture. Keep it simple.
In time you will feel better, also it's ok to want a baby, lots of woman lose weight for the same exact reason.
As for being a mommy you can be a mommy to more than one child biological or not there is more than enough love in our hearts to give. Take care rest, walk, stay hydrated. And the rest will come

Jo, The 27th wow ok you were just sleeved! First things first, take a slow deep breath.... In......and out.....
For the next two weeks you should concentrate on two things only, and that is you and your healing. Now is not the time to start looking at the bigger picture. Keep it simple.
In time you will feel better, also it's ok to want a baby, lots of woman lose weight for the same exact reason.
As for being a mommy you can be a mommy to more than one child biological or not there is more than enough love in our hearts to give. Take care rest, walk, stay hydrated. And the rest will come

Thanks for the responses. My depression comes and goes, mostly in the form of fatigue and lack of motivation, but I also have to remind myself that I'm freshly operated on and must relax/rest. It is quite mild though. With the band I got it really bad.
I'm so grateful for having this surgery, but I am a little disappointed that this doesn't feel like a new, exciting experience.
Best of wishes to you all, and thanks again for helping me understand why I feel so good, and that it's okay if I don't feel good about feeling good, if that makes sense, lol.
@ Sunsett and Bella - you will do great. The first night is real rough but only because I couldn't burp up the gas they inflate your stomach with. That was so painful but super short lived.
@Annette - isn't it wonderful when they took the band out and you could guzzle Water first in the morning, after years of vomiting? LOL. You are right about the differences. You're so lucky you can eat real food now! I'm only a couple of days into mushy.
@nursebeccarn - I am sticking to the routine but have cut back on my Protein shakes because I can't handle strong flavors and for some reason even my Isopure shake is way too sweet. If you want to talk, let me know. I hope you pull through those blues soon! (both of us actually!)

I think that we just have some apples and oranges here...
Excuse the spiritual stuff in the picture it was the best comparison I could find at the moment

Why “Everything in Moderation” is Killing People
Published on October 12, 2013
Written by: Kris Gunnars.
I can’t stand it when the “Everything in Moderation” mantra is pushed as the right solution for everyone.
There are biological reasons why some individuals can’t consume certain things in moderation, no matter how hard they try.
That’s because many people are literally addicted to the junk foods they are consuming.
Just like with other addictions, the only thing that works is abstinence.
For addicts, moderation fails… every time.
Many People Don’t Even Know That food Addiction Exists
In the past few decades, literally hundreds of studies have explored how certain foods can lead to addiction (1).
However, food addiction has yet to make it into the mainstream and many health professionals don’t even know that it exists… yet.
I’ve seen many dietitians and other health professionals literally discouraging people from completely removing the addictive foods from their life.
They say that such “extreme” methods are doomed to fail and will lead to feelings of deprivation.
Even though these people mean well, they fail to understand how hopeless this approach is going to be when applied to food addicts.
Chances are that people who are true food addicts will never succeed if they try to eat “in moderation.”
They will continue to eat large amounts of junk food and suffer all the horrible consequences for the rest of their (much shorter) lives.
There Are Biological Reasons Why Some People Just Can’t Consume Junk Food in Moderation
Food addiction has a biological basis (2).
Humans are hardwired to seek out behaviors that release a neurotransmitter called dopamine in the reward system of the brain.
This is interpreted by the brain as “pleasure.”
Many activities release dopamine… including eating behavior, sexual behavior and all kinds of things that make us feel “good.”
This dopamine-driven reward is NOT a bad thing when it happens under natural circumstances.
The problems appear when do things that release more dopamine than we were ever exposed to when our brains were evolving.
Whereas real foods cause a relatively mild dopamine release, highly engineered junk foods that are loaded with sugar can have a very powerful effect (3).
Interestingly, this is exactly what happens when people take drugs of abuse like cocaine… large amounts of dopamine are released in the reward system of the brain.
For people with a certain predisposition, this can lead to full-blown addiction (4).
When this happens, the “reward seeking behavior” takes over… logic and reason fail and the individual starts succumbing to cravings, despite knowing that it is causing physical harm.
This is the reason smokers can’t just decide to “smoke less” and alcoholics can’t just decide to “drink less.” The logical part of their brain doesn’t have control anymore.
People who binge eat and can’t control themselves around junk food have the exact same problem.
Of course, this is all a drastic oversimplification. Addiction and the brain are incredibly complex subjects and there are many brain centers and neurotransmitters involved.
My Personal Experiences With Addiction
I can support this with some personal experiences…
I am a recovering alcoholic and a drug addict… sober since January 4th, 2007.
I’ve been to 6 rehabs, a mental institution, jail more often than I can count and several trips to the emergency room due to overdose.
I was also a smoker for many years, but managed to give that up after multiple attempts.
The reason I’m telling you this, is to demonstrate that I know how addiction works.
I’ve been there… succeeded, and failed, many times.
A few years ago, I realized that I had been developing an addiction to junk foods.
Full-blown addiction, nothing more, nothing less.
I had completely lost control over my consumption… I used to binge all the time and often ate thousands of calories in a sitting.
I struggled with this for years. I tried literally everything… cheat meals didn’t work, cheat days didn’t work, pills didn’t work, supplements didn’t work and various different diets failed.
“Moderation” sure as hell didn’t work either.
Eventually, I realized that I was experiencing the exact same symptoms as when I was addicted to drugs.
The cravings, the thought processes, the failure to set rules, the complete lack of self control… being addicted to junk food was the same as being addicted to amphetamine.
Exactly the same.
Just like with drugs, the only way I have ever been able to stop eating junk foods is by completely removing them from my life.
Moderation failed, every time.
As soon as I managed to give up the addictive foods completely, I lost weight… with pretty much no effort.
I have since spoken to many of my friends who are also recovering drug addicts. They didn’t struggle with binge eating like I did, but they have confirmed that craving ice cream feels the exact same as craving a drug.
Even though there are no reliable statistics available, I am personally convinced that food addiction is much more common than most people think.
If you have problems with binge eating or have repeatedly failed to set rules about junk foods, then perhaps this is something you should look into.
It might end up saving your life.
The Other Side of The Story – Restrictive Dieting and Eating Disorders
There is a strange dilemma here… there are also studies showing that restrictive dieting can cause binge eating and lead to eating disorders (5, 6).
For this reason, being flexible with your diet may be a good idea for a lot of people.
Some people can and maybe even should include some junk foods in their life, without feeling guilty, in order to reduce the likelihood of developing an “unhealthy relationship” with food.
This approach can work for some people, NOT others.
I personally think that people who have already succumbed to food addiction will not succeed unless they manage to avoid junk foods completely.
For these people, the “everything in moderation” message, which literally discourages them from doing the only thing that works for addiction, is seriously harmful.
This is just one of many examples where there are very few “truths” in nutrition that can be applied across the board.
While including junk food in moderation can work for a lot of people, it is a complete disaster for others.
What is The Solution?
When it comes to addiction, abstinence is only the beginning. Sticking to it in the long run (preferably for life) is the real challenge.
People who truly have food addiction may need much more than just a firm decision to stop eating the addictive foods.
Fortunately, there are psychologists, treatment programs, self-help groups and 12-step programs (free) that can help with this.
One thing is certain… a person with true addiction will never, ever be able to consume their “drug of choice” in moderation.
Telling a food addict to eat junk food “in moderation” is just as ridiculous as telling a smoker to smoke in moderation, or an alcoholic to drink in moderation.
It simply does not work, period.

Yay!!! Drunken (Oh.... I mean festive) Christmas pictures!!!
Looking beautiful madam, although when I imagined you it was always with eyes
A picture of me and the evil sisters in laws after our first bottle of tequila but before the end of the second and

them on the rolling around on the ground (and one puking )
Don't try this at home newbies! (Try it at your mother in laws house like we did)

Thank you Don.
I will reprint it here..
You should not consider bariatric surgery if....
1. If you think it is a magic bullet.
Bariatric surgery is not a magic bullet. It will help you lose weight but the responsibility is on you to keep going and maintain that loss. Regaining all of the lost weight is very possible and not even that uncommon.
People who do not commit to a healthy lifestyle after the surgery are highly vulnerable to regain. Unlike diets, regain with surgery is delayed. On a diet people usually gain weight back within a few weeks or months. With surgery, people won’t begin to regain the weight until 18 months to 2 years. People who feel like surgery is a magic bullet will not be prepared for the commitment and will end up on the road to failure.
2. If you think it will be easy.
Bariatric surgery involves an extensive process of nutrition counseling, temporary liquid diets, and pre- and post-surgery meetings and preparations. Most clinics will ask that you lose some weight before the surgery, start on a special diet, and exercise. If you find a clinic that does not ask you to go through multiple steps like this you should find a new clinic. A good clinic will prepare you for success by giving you the right nutrition, behavioral, and exercise support before and after surgery. If you view these steps as a hassle, then you are not in the right mindset for surgery and will be at high risk of weight regain in the long run.
3. If it is in the back of your mind that if it doesn’t work you will just try it again.
Even though people like Carnie Wilson had a second surgery, keep in mind that most people do not. Some surgeons will not want to do a second surgery for you. In fact, they may lose hope in you. Surgeons want to set you up for success. They might not want to take the risk of an additional surgery unless they are very sure you did not squander the results of the first surgery with a blatantly unhealthy lifestyle. Surgery is an intensive and invasive process, only plan to do it once.
4. You Haven’t Truly Made Committed Attempts to Lose Weight.
One of the criteria to be eligible for surgery is that you have had numerous failed weight loss attempts. Nearly everyone on the planet meets this criterion, right?! Well, no. If you can’t honestly say that you put your heart and soul into previous weight loss attempts, then you aren’t really meeting this criterion. If your reason for not losing weight in previous attempts was because you were too busy or stressed out to make lifestyle changes, these problems will not go away with surgery. You will need to make the very same lifestyle changes. The difference will be that regaining the weight you lost from surgery will be 10 times more demoralizing than it is from a usual diet attempt. Once again, if you aren’t committed to making lifestyle changes, surgery will not make a long lasting difference.

I went through that at about the same time frame..
I felt pretty good I bought a bunch of new clothes that I really like at a "regular" store and I got to feeling complacent... I stayed happy with the loss and my new duds for a little while then went on to be interested in losing again (at a snails pace mind you ) just like our body's go through stalls (resting periods) our brains go through them too.

Why? Is the Bible the sole text of religion on this planet or is the sole text of religion for you?
I got 13 correct.

Still, Note to self...
DO NOT dare Laura to match shots... no matter what my evil brain Skippy says!!!!!

Lol arts I was W-A-S-T-E-D after the first shot!!I came in, was immediately handed the shot (by two evil sisters in laws) and was a giggling drunk fool after the first!
The funny thing I've noticed with the sleeve.
And I'm not a drinker I can go six months in between but the few times I've tried it I get really buzzed after just a bit and then as quickly as it comes it goes! So if I have another glass it doesn't hit a buzz anymore..
But that night well two bottles of tequila, oh and I guess we hit a bottle of whiskey afterwards too
And yes I was drunk. But still the girls that weren't sleeved (sisters in laws) and who drink on a more regular basis. Were in a bad bad way at the end of the evening..

Yay!!! Drunken (Oh.... I mean festive) Christmas pictures!!!
Looking beautiful madam, although when I imagined you it was always with eyes
A picture of me and the evil sisters in laws after our first bottle of tequila but before the end of the second and

them on the rolling around on the ground (and one puking )
Don't try this at home newbies! (Try it at your mother in laws house like we did)

Glad you liked it
But I stole it from member butterthebean
As for stalls? My whole weight lose journey has has been stalls, with bit of wieght loss here and there.

3 days is not a stall.. But when you hit a stall (it can last 1 to three weeks) it is a completely normal thing, weight loss (even with surgery) is not a predictable pound a day loss process.
As long as the overall monthly trend is down, that all that matters.
If you do a search here under "stall" you will see a million and one threads about it.
Also read this..
http://www.dsfacts.com/weight-loss-stall-or-plateau.html#.UsC0ZHm9Kc0

If you ask me I think he needs more "super vet" hosts... I'll poke him to make sure he got your response. Ok major headache today.. I'm sure all the crappy eating and drinking this last week had something to do with it.. Detoxing is a b***h. I have a family party to go to today.. It was just thrown at me, it's at my crazy aunties house. I haven't seen these people in years so it should be fun. But I know there will be no good choices for me there so I'll pray for strength. And bring some yogurt.. EDIT!!!!!!!
I have been dreading weighing for three days now.. Because I have given in to holiday crap the last week
But I have weighed today, drumroll please.......
The same weight!!! 147!!!!
Hail to the 5:2!
It's funny I've been schlumping around in sweats feeling BIG BIG for several days knowing I've gained. Just got out if the shower and threw on my tightest skinny pants to feel good.

I'm sorry for your bad experience.. I've read this several times here, about Kelly charging an extra five hundred at the last minute..
I can't remember if it is always due to BMI though.
I wonder why he doesn't just charge it up front?
I'm glad you are home and safe though