My gut is PISSED OFF! 2 month old newbie needs help! Offer some keto guidelines?

[GeTnBackuP 192]

Hello. I’ve had some success on Keto and Atkins type diets in the past and I am curious how they work post op and more than a little nervous to start it up again now since they are basically higher fat and my past probs there...plus I’m only two months + post op.

Lil backstory- I had my gallbladder taken out 11/2016 and a year later my body still hasn’t made up its mind on how to process fats (mainly dairy, meat based fats are tolerable) Some days I can totally tolerate minimal dairy (like in my morning coffee or some meat wrapped cheese/pickle meals). Other days I take one sip of my AM coffee and I bolt straight to the bathroom & for the rest of the day- this is low fat, whole milk, half and half or even full on heavy cream. I literally can drink/eat FULL fat one day and get the intestinal freak outs the next! I don’t get it!

I had VSG on 10/31/2017 (2.5 mos) and still struggle having dairy back into my diet since I’m pretty much experiencing the same thing. Now I make my one morning coffee with chocolate Premier Protein shake and do OK but still struggle with any other dairy...cheese, low fat sour cream, yogurt...but I WANT TO COOK WITH THIS STUFF! PLUS I NEED THE Calcium. Ricotta bake- HELLO! I want to be able to eat that without excusing myself from the table after one bite.

Can I do a modified Keto and/or Atkins type eating program that allows me to eat lower fat (mostly dairy) type foods and still be satisfied and lose weight? Maybe less fat and more Protein? Is there something like that- toss in some whole greens maybe?

I’m earnestly trying and reaching out for help so please don’t give me arrogant attitude. I enjoy most of you but geez the power trips here are sometimes too much...kinda like the trots I get lately many thanks and so much love and appreciation to all of you that offer kind supportive suggestions...Tess

[Rainbow_Warrior 996]

5 hours ago, MissT_SR said:

eating program that allows me to eat lower fat (mostly dairy) type foods and still be satisfied and lose weight? Maybe less fat and more Protein? Is there something like that- toss in some whole greens maybe?

Does your country have (Danone) YoPro, a high Protein yoghurt? 15g to 17g of protein in a 160g tub of (VERY) low-fat yoghurt.

What about high protein beer-drinkers' cheese? 22% protein.

Edited January 14, 2018 by Rainbow_Warrior

[Sosewsue61 3,185]

Just an observation, as I have no actual experience in your situation, if meat based fats are tolerable, it sounds like lactose intolerance maybe? Have you tried taking some pre-/probiotics? Have you been tested for gut bacteria or h pylori bacteria? The gut is a fascinating, complex, and annoying organ. If you are worried about getting enough fat to do Keto there is coconut oil, avocado, etc. I realize this doesn't let you have beloved yummy dairy for the moment but maybe after you get some Probiotics for a few months you will be able to tolerate dairy better.

[Sosewsue61 3,185]

I did some reading, the liver has to compensate for the lack of bile no longer produced by the absent gallbladder and supplements may be needed to assist that digestive process. You will need to do some research and trial and error to find what and how much to take. It does seem that tolerating dairy is trickier to manage. Good luck.

[tfarr 270]

Those YoPro look good. But not for all the sugars. 13g In the vanilla? No thanks

[GeTnBackuP 192]

Does your country have (Danone) YoPro, a high Protein yoghurt? 15g to 17g of protein in a 160g tub of (VERY) low-fat yoghurt.
What about high protein beer-drinkers' cheese? 22% protein.

I’ll look for the yogurt for sure, tons of protein! As for the cheese, my local specialty store has so much I’m sure there’s beer drinkers- great name! Thank you for the suggestions

[GeTnBackuP 192]

I did some reading, the liver has to compensate for the lack of bile no longer produced by the absent gallbladder and supplements may be needed to assist that digestive process. You will need to do some research and trial and error to find what and how much to take. It does seem that tolerating dairy is trickier to manage. Good luck.

You’re awesome for reading up on this, thank you. I looked and there is so much out there I got overwhelmed...and never found this. I’ll ask the doc about supplements also he basically said to give this time- his boilerplate response for everything. As far as it being strictly dairy/lactose intolerance I do get some reaction to meat fats- I can’t each much pork bacon although turkey bacon is fine. I can have sliced fajitas tho....so is it the straight fat I can’t have but I’m ok if it’s marinated? My poor gut lol...I’m thinking I just need to start at the beginning again with broths and shakes for a bit to clean me out some and slowly introduce foods to really gauge the reactions, I don’t see any other way how to tell what I can eat and what I can’t. ug

[Rainbow_Warrior 996]

1 hour ago, tfarr said:

Those YoPro look good. But not for all the sugars

Granted.

But there are two that are under 0.5g sugar.

They are generally best had half a tub at a time anyway.

I did try them all but I prefer the 17g Protein unflavoured one as my first choice.

They are so popular now that they clear off shelves pretty quickly some days.

[tfarr 270]

Granted.
But there are two that are under 0.5g sugar.
They are generally best had half a tub at a time anyway.
I did try them all but I prefer the 17g Protein unflavoured one as my first choice.
They are so popular now that they clear off shelves pretty quickly some days.

1/2 at a time? I must be a hog then, because I eat the Oikos 100 calorie one with chia seeds lol
I’d like to just eat 1/2 lol

[FluffyChix 17,418]

I'd go into Whole Foods or a health food store and talk to a person there about enzymes. Maybe taking digestive enzymes and also Lactaid would help? I agree with @Sosewsue61 that it really sounds more like lactose intolerance than a fat issue? And also think pro-pre-biotics would also be your friend! ((hugs)) Sounds painful!!!