This is a spin-off of the accidentally deleted thread "Imposters piss me off."

Every so often, I go over to OH, even though I hate it, just to see if anything useful has been posted. Afterwards, I mentally slap myself. Every. Single. Time. It's a damn good thing that I had my account there deleted. If I hadn't, I probably would have been banned by now. Either I read a post by SandyR (I try to avoid them, but some sneak through when I'm not expecting it) that makes me want to slap her and shake the people that actually listen to her or I run across a thread containing an online WWIII over some stupid thing. (Today it was one where someone had the audacity [gasp!] to say that they didn't feel a lot of sympathy for people who buy something they really can't afford, default on their loans, and subsequently have their possessions repo'd - apparently that didn't go over well.) :speechles

Every time I go over there, I wonder why I did. But I guess I continue to think that there might be some redeeming feature to the forum (every so often, a decent bit of advice gets posted). :phanvan

See what I mean? Do they fear being outcasts at OH? Why won't they speak up?

I wonder if anyone's reported her to the company that markets her CDs, since they are advertising her as a licensed nurse.

Yes, it's being done. Not by me, but I know it's in the process.

I just find it hard to believe they give her that much power! It seems so ridiculous to me. She is just one lady whose lies have been exposed. Evidently other boards have stood up to her and even banned her. What are the folks over there going to do about it? Nothing?

I have private messages on OH where I asked Sandy for her credentials after she emailed me about another member. Now keep in mind that I did not reach out to her, she contacted me. She never responded to my questions. She kept saying that this person was harming newbies. I am soooo tired of people thinking that because you are new to WLS, that you are unable to research it and make informed decisions on your own.

Joyouslyme-Do you still post on OH? Do you know of anyone who has publicly called her out on this? Maybe I just overlooked it in the posts but I cannot find any public mention of this by any supporters of Sandy.

See what I mean? Do they fear being outcasts at OH? Why won't they speak up?

IMO, that's exactly what they fear. If ANYONE dares speak up about Sandy, they get bashed by her groupies. I've experienced it, WASa experienced it, Wendell experienced it. You can't make a single post suggesting that Sandy might not be correct without getting trounced by her supporters. They know that if they dared speak up against her, their "friends" would turn on them in a heartbeat. It's safer for them to just remain silent, even though they KNOW that she's giving out bad information.

She has never been called out and I view the posts everyday. I was really surprised to see two of the OH folks on here posting. I'm not even 6 months out, but I'll try to answer newbie questions if I can. When she originally emailed me this info, I was going to post it for the whole board to see. I decided that she was a very sad person and it wasn't my business to post because it pertained to another member. Now, if that member gave their permission, I would post it in a NY minute.

I sincerely don't see how she has any supporters left in view of her dishonesty. Supporting her as a fellow bandster, I can see. Supporting her lies and malicious intent, I cannot understand.

To add to my above post:

OH is a very clique-driven place. If you aren't favored by the overwhelming group that is posting (which would be Sandy's supporters), you are either ignored or attacked, depending on how vocally anti-Sandy you are. Her supporters apparently feel that they have only one way to interact with other people in a way that is favorable to them, and that is to publicly support Sandy.

Joyouslyme-PM him and see if he will give his permission. If it is who I think it is, he will probably give you the ok.I don't even know if he is still a member over there......

Oh and hopefully that does not violate any LBT rules. You should probably check on that too before posting a copy of a private email.

Whenever it comes up, they'll say that she's being attacked and they have to defend their poor victim of a friend. It really turned me off. I post to say happy birthday and to give newbies advice. I don't care about the friendships that they've formed or what clique they aren't. One time, Wendell made a post about his protein intake calculations. OMG. You'd have thought that he shot the pope. I had to ask what the big deal was. What kills me is when they'll disagree with you and then say that they're not going to speak on it again. Like I'm supposed to cower in fear or something. I noticed a post like that on this thread. HAHA. I'm just sorry that I missed the myspace post on there.

She has never been called out and I view the posts everyday. I was really surprised to see two of the OH folks on here posting. I'm not even 6 months out, but I'll try to answer newbie questions if I can. When she originally emailed me this info, I was going to post it for the whole board to see. I decided that she was a very sad person and it wasn't my business to post because it pertained to another member. Now, if that member gave their permission, I would post it in a NY minute.

Ohhh, make no mistake. They post, they just have different IDs. But there is no protection of Sandy over here so they don't really have a lot to say on this forum. What they have done in the past is to follow us around and pick apart posts to a ridiculous degree until other members jump in and tell them to knock it off. I'm not referring to posts about Sandy but about anything. It just doesn't serve them to do that over here, they don't get the support they need to continue with the behaviors, instead they get finger wagging by other members.

I have really busted my butt to lose weight. I do hard cardio daily, usually 60-120 minutes daily of cardio and hard cardio. I keep calories at 600 daily, I work really hard to achieve my goals. One OH groupie came over here a few months ago and attempted to make it look like I wasn't really losing weight, I wasn't responsible for my own weight loss. It took people I don't even KNOW coming in and telling them to knock it off before they finally backed down.

I know about the information you refer to. The person it was about forwarded it to me. It was disgusting and a last ditch attempt at some amount of credibility on Sandy's part. But, it didn't work for her, not even a little. All it did was show what a liar she is and cost a doc $$ in legal fees forcing her to stop the dishonesty.

I'm pretty sure it would violate OH rules and the thread would be deleted if you posted it on OH. Of course, if you are ready to leave (I don't know if you are or not), you might as well go out fighting, right?

Now, I think you may be able to post it on LBT for everyone to see, since it wasn't an LBT PM.

To add to my above post:

OH is a very clique-driven place. If you aren't favored by the overwhelming group that is posting (which would be Sandy's supporters), you are either ignored or attacked, depending on how vocally anti-Sandy you are. Her supporters apparently feel that they have only one way to interact with other people in a way that is favorable to them, and that is to publicly support Sandy.

It sure seems to me that quite a high percentage of them have had complications as well. It's got to be a higher percentage than the general banded population, and they have come up since these people have been following Sandy's "rules". Maybe it's not such a good idea to pack in 1-2 cups of food in 20mins and maybe a shake in the morning is not such a bad thing.