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The Uncomfortable Truth....

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Okay, I've been forced to do a lot of soul-searching recently.

Despite sailing through any pre-operative psychological assessment (in fact I was so convincing and probably 'cause I was self pay I wasn't actually referred for the full tests), there is a nagging truth which keeps tapping me on the shoulder and making me uncomfortably aware of the reasons as to why I found myself in this position. The position whereby I felt bariatric surgery was my only viable option to lose weight and take control of my diet. Or more accurately and for me; my portion size.

Although I can intellectualise my way out of a paper bag (as was stated by the psychologist when I finally met them), I had, and have, to be honest as to the reasons I ended up this big.

The answer, as painful as it is, was; my mother.

My mother is a tough cookie. Born in a depressive era in Ireland, with enumerate siblings. She was poor and although educated, she was curtailed in her life choices and was always shown that 'if you love someone, you feed them'. I assume this was their truth, as to feed a very big family was difficult at this time, and was the only example her poor long-suffering and abused mother could muster under extreme circumstances. It was also the only expected long-term outlook for women of childbearing age.

The impact of this, was clearly passed down the genetic line. That in this, the nature/nurture argument for our food weaknesses becomes more pressing. This was exemplified not only in the way my mother behaved generally, but how she administered herself in her marriage and how she behaved with her children.

The extent of this dysfunction only became apparent in how skewed my food choices (and more appropriately: portion sizes) were - and how I was born into those food choices - when recently cooking for my mother. She skipped anything resembling a vegetable, ate her body-weight in meat, potatoes and fresh bread (despite my making from scratch; Hummus, Baba Ganoush, Fatttoush and Lamb kebab). She was a wonderful cook herself and we never went without anything (all food groups represented) and it was never out of a packet. However, I got a rude awakening as to how a mothers preferences in showing affection and her deeper psychological state, totally influenced us kids.

When pressing me on my weight loss, she conceded that she'd always focussed too much on the carbs ('tis an Irish thing) when we were children and how she'd misrepresented the importance of bread and potatoes in our diet. This was also, and sadly, tempered with how her inability to show affection, manifested itself in the reward system she'd assigned for herself. In that by feeding her offspring, she'd aligned this with the ultimate expression of love....

As much as I love my mother and as much of a wonderful cook she was; I realised that the burden of responsibility for the reason I was so overweight as a child, which then carried on into adulthood, was as much her responsibility as it was mine. I, too, now feed those I love. Not because I have an incapability to show love, but that these deeply engrained examples have become the example I work from. Despite these factors changing - because of the surgery - I can see where these behaviours are hard cycles to break and have left me with a mental quandary over identity and 'healthy' expressions of love and affection.

I have no idea as to the extent to how people evaluate the impact of bariatric surgery on their lives. Tactical and strategic analysis is difficult to do when everyone is so enraptured by the immediate gratification gained from losing pounds and having all those non-scale-victories (lest we talk about the 'my cats blacker' self affirming attitudes which occasional pervades this website).... But has it forced you to re-evaluate the causes for your issue?

Have you searched your soul and now have a better handle on how you ended up in this position? 'Cause lets face it - most of us can sit in a psychologist's chair for hours at a time, spinning the wheel - but unless you're willing to strip back your insecurities to the bare-bones truth, doesn't it all feel a bit, well, empty?

Have we learnt anything other than to count the carbs, count the Protein, measure the Water consumption and count the calories in order to be fitter, tighter, healthier, smaller, more socially acceptable?

I truly believe our surgical endeavors absolutely force us to re-evaluate our lives, our succor/comfort systems and our behaviour. Consequently and because of how hard it is (emotionally), do we not sneer with derision at those who proffer 'surgery is the easy option'. Out of the curtailment of our ability to chow down and eat our way to 'happiness'; is there not something more emotional and scarily deep, that we've had to confront every time we look in the mirror?

i know I'm not an island unto myself. We were weak. We are, still, weak.

Outside of the victories in maintaining a life of low fat, cottage cheese virtuous goodness. There is a deeper significance to combating the external expression of our hurt.

What are yours?

With utmost respect and affection,

Revs x

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Ok. I read through the entire thread, and must say a few things.

1) thank you to ALL the contributors. I saw myself in each and every post. I can say that I was able to reflect on EACH piece that you all shared and they REALLY helped me to recognize something's about and within myself that I need to get some "light" to, for fear of the darkness overwhelming.

2) when such highly personal and emotional things are shared, I think it makes us EXTREMELY sensitive (emotional cheese grater?) and some of you thought others took offense, which I believe they didn't. Nor did the original apologizers offend. It makes me sad that the thread came to that because you all REALLY REALLY were on an AMAZING roll, and it was incredibly helpful. Until it stopped.

To get a glimpse into the soul of another, to feel for just a moment like all is not lost, and a fleeting sense that I am not alone....That, my fellow sleevers, I truly appreciate.

I NEEDED this thread Revs...with tears streaming....THANK YOU!!!

That was the entire point of some of us putting ourselves out there...for someone like you who could learn something helpful and act on what you have read here...That is the total aim of this entire forum...Ty for your thoughts!!!!

Now, as long as Nicolanz doesn't go for any cheeky butt feels during her group hug - lets all get back to slaying those dragons which often present themselves to me, in the form of cheeseburgers and fries.

I'm in!! I will be formulating an explanation to relate an, hopefully, adequate portrayal of the importance these posts have played for me. Problem is that I'm at work, so I'll be posting this pm. Mental workings to be done.

Yes this is part of being vulnerable that I talked about earlier...

This is a place occasionally offers a safe haven to open up on.

This thread was one of them.

I was praying someone didn't downplay someone's feelings. RJ don't apologize, it was very brave of you (and everyone else) to open up. We all appreciate it.

You all have my love and support whether you want it or not!

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I don't know about the rest of you but once I saw what that fine lady said, it made it all worth it to me to bare all for her....

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Laura - 'Is', darling. it 'Is' one of those places.

<looks under her armpit in confused befuddlement as to who the 'fine lady' is in this melee> :D

Laura - 'Is', darling. it 'Is' one of those places.

<looks under her armpit in confused befuddlement as to who the 'fine lady' is in this melee> :D

You are something...never fails to make me laugh...Poor Laura....I think!

Deep cleansing breath.... In....... And out....

My first real breath today.

I love you guys :)

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We're all good in the hood.

Hell, we're made of stronger stuff - all of us.

AND Laura has a genius son.. So today, is a good day. :)

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We're all good in the hood. Hell, we're made of stronger stuff - all of us. AND Laura has a genius son.. So today, is a good day. :)

<br> And I think a girl likes him!!!! <br> I've spotted her twice now at his side once two weeks ago she made a bee line to sit with him and chatted his eat off. <br> Then today at honor roll who's by his side chatting his ear off :D

Sorry bout the off topic but it's monumental! :P

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It's wonderful and should rightly be celebrated, reveled in and shouted from the rooftops.

Hell, if I had a kid that had received that GPA, I'd be streaking naked outside Buckingham Palace with the information daubed on my more than a bit wobbly body for the world to see. :D

Laura, BE PROUD!! That's über exciting!!

And no clue if anyone thought they offended me - lemme set it all straight...I don't offend easily and I haven't read anything on here to be offended with by anyone. I love my daily "chats, help, uplifting," with alla you folks:)

I scampered away this morning all crazy embarrassed and actually did some work for a while, so I'm going to take this thread back one page and say I'm sorry. I didn't mean anything I said to minimize anyone's feelings. Whether something did or not. It was more sharing than anything else. I will henceforth keep away from this kind of thread if I don't feel I can personally relate to the title.

Also, Nicolanz, get your hands off my butt.

I scampered away this morning all crazy embarrassed and actually did some work for a while, so I'm going to take this thread back one page and say I'm sorry. I didn't mean anything I said to minimize anyone's feelings. Whether something did or not. It was more sharing than anything else. I will henceforth keep away from this kind of thread if I don't feel I can personally relate to the title.

Also, Nicolanz, get your hands off my butt.

Let it alone k..you were not offensive and you offer valuable reasoning's as well..Don't hold back how you feel none of us on here want that..hell if we all did that we would be talking about things like new hair styles and nail polish..yes even you Butter....lol

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