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Horror Story

1/29/13 - Update/Edit:

As several have inquired about the timeline and were confused when i said her surgery was in May but she's been on a feeding tube for two years. The surgery was May of 2010. I was specifying the month only as a point of reference for the point at which the issue became critical (July 2010) and how long she was in the hospital that first time (into October 2010). She was also hospitalized for a few months in January 2011 when the stomache leak/infection spread through the diaphragm and into her lungs, and again the following spring and summer of 2011 for the same issues. Sorry for the confusion.

Also - I agree that the bulk of the issues centered around follow up care - which is why I was so specific about where and by whom she was being treated. But I quickly learned that such leaks and subsequent fistulas are NOT uncommon with this type of surgery - I never said they were the majority. Additionally Physicians who are now caring for her have previously cared for individuals who suffered similar, though not quite as critical, issues after having this type of surgery. So that is legitimate.

Good point on the Hipaa item - but I'm not sure that applies to family or friends sharing information they are aware of. I have no professional or legal obligation to her or her care and am not a POA or medical care provider.

Thanks to all who have read and responded - I'm still reading through them all.

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I have not had gastric sleeve, but my sister has and this is her horror story. In the month after her May surgery, by Dr. Chua of Aurora Sinai in Milwaukee, my sister (Jane) came down with flu like symptoms. Although she contacted her primary physician, who was aware of the recent surgery, and I believe she had an office visit with Dr. Chua, nobody showed any concern about infection. This is despite the fact that EVERYBODY knows that infection mimics flu like symptoms and it was nowhere near flu season. Nobody ever did any scans post surgery to determine of there was any issue with the healing of the internal surgery area - even though I have since learned that other patients had experienced similar issues to what my sister was about to go through.

It turned out (after three ER visits in three days, despite the fact that I said I was worried about infection from the very first visit) that a staple hadn't held and that food/fluid had been leaking into her abdomen from the stomach causing a MASSIVE infection. By the time Aurora Lakeland in Elkhorn paid any attention to this she was almost dead. She barely made it through and it was literally touch and go for WEEKS!! AND that hospital wouldn't even treat her because they don't do bariatric surgeries - she had to be airlifted to Milwaukee.

What followed were numerous surgeries, months in ICU and then regular hospital (from July 4th weekend into October), an induced coma with her hands strapped to the bed so she wouldn't inadvertantly pull out tubes and wires, being intubated for breathing assistance, additional infections, memory loss of that entire time, and leaving on a feeding tube. She has been on that feeding tube for over two years now.

Oh she's thin alright. woohoo. But she gets her food from a bag hanging on an iv rack and has to grind her meds and flush them through the feeding tube line, as well as a drain that collects Fluid from her abdomen and open wounds that need daily care. She has NO muscles left. She probably couldn't walk a block if she was allowed to.

She came home from that hospital stay with a GIANT open wound the length of her abdomen - I mean it was big enough for me to stick both my hands into - and a wound vac installed in it to constantly vacuum up the fluid and goop that goes along with healing. That fluid drained into a plastic container that hung from tube(s) coming out of her abdomen - which she had to have with her always. It was all very painful and really gross.

That was just the first hospitalization. By January she was back in the hospital with another massive infection that had burned through her diaphragm and into her lungs. This time she spent her time in pulmonary ICU. You see they told her to start trying to eat - that they thought the holes in her stomach had closed, but they didn't do regular scans to verify this....again! They were wrong. Again.

Only this time her primary physician, Dr. Rosol of Aurora Lake Geneva, had diagnosed her with pneumonia over the phone and had given her a prescription not even strong enough to deal with pneumonia. So when she didn't get better, by the time the Aurora ER took her seriously she was again near death. This time they had to do lung surgery AND abdominal surgery to clear out and treat the raging infection caused by fluid and matter leaking from the stomach into everywhere.

So apparently this type of thing isn't that uncommon with this surgery, nor are the "fistulas" that develop as a result of this complication from this type of surgery. If the tissue around this fistula isn't so damaged that it can heal on its own it could take years. If it's damaged - as hers was from all that infection - there is no sewing it closed and it doesn't heal on its own. Imagine being on a feeding tube for the rest of your life - never tasting food, never enjoying a meal or a drink or a dessert or a holiday with your family again. Never a chocolate bar, or a bowl of Cereal, or a salad, or a glass of juice. NOTHING. All because someone convinced you that gastric sleeve surgery was the answer.

So if you are considering this surgery, don't. It's just not worth the risk. I know, if my sister could go back, she would choose fat over this lack of a life any day of the week. I grew up thin and am now fat and I would NEVER EVER EVER have a surgery to reduce my weight. Although I haven't been able to be disciplined enough to do it I know the only solution is eat less, move more. Two steps. The only solution.

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since the original post time the OP has had nothing to say or respond with. I don't believe the OP is looking for any sort of sympathy, and she isn't getting any from me. I agree what is the point of your ONE post? This does lead one to believe in the validity of what is posted and could have been done in a malicious way. VSG is a life saving procedure........enough said.

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You are an idiot to post this here. I don't have any problem wih people posting their stories (even ones with bad outcomes)' date=' but in no way shape or form is this kind of situation common. The opposite is true. So stop trying to scare people away from LIFE SAVING surgery with your story. It would have been fine if you had told the story and left it at that. But no, you have to punctuate it at the end with your moronic advice and how you would never have weight loss surgery. [XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX VIOLATION OF FORUM RULES] People die from having their wisdom teeth out- should they not have surgery to alleviate their pain?

I hate trolls.

-Kendra

I cant believe you are so inconsiderate of the fact that this girl has basically lost her sister!! She shared her experience and due to what she witnessed first hand I dont blame her for feeling this way. Your rudeness or shall I say IGNORANCE is not what this sight is about.If the tables were turned you wouldnt feel this way. Thank God for your health cause this could have easily happened to anyone of us who choose to have this WLS. I just cant believe people are so FULL OF EVIL like this. I pray you really re- read what you wrote and do a self check of your attitude towards this women. We all have said things we regret I hope you look deep within and reconsider what you posted. You owe this women an APOLOGY! I dont know if you will but if Sista-Sists see this post I APOLOGIZE to you for such cruel words. I pray that God will touch your sister's body and turn this whole thing around. I know God (Jesus Christ) is a healer and I pray for a miracle to take place in your sister life. Spreading LOVE is easier than HATE.

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Since the "ONE post" thing keeps getting brought up as a negative thing for some reason.... I guess I'd have to ask what other posts you guys think the OP should have made before this, and why? It's not like they're interested in Protein shake reviews, or want to ask questions or post recipe ideas for crying out loud.

When I did a google search for "vertical sleeve gastrectomy", this forum is the second search result after a medical encyclopedia definition page. This forum is huge and states that it's the #1 place to talk about this surgery.

Now I may be jumping out on a limb here, but this seems to be the perfect place for someone to be who wants to get their sister's story heard. The OP came here, made an account, and posted their sister's story. That only takes 1 post to accomplish.

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And if this was the reaction one would get to their first impassioned post, passion rightly earned by the way, would you want to post again? I totally understand if she's scared to do so. The reactions were kind of cruel.

While people say the story does not sound true, they show their lack of education in regards to this surgery. I had many of the same issues and many others here have as well. The complications due to lack of attention are just what I had, though not as bad. I lived the mini version so when I read this I totally can see where it makes sense. And believe me, while complications were discussed, no one told me the ugly reality of what that could be. NO ONE. When they say internal bleeding, they don't say you could lay there having seizures for hours without being able to communicate your pain. Nor do they say if you do have bleeding you now have to worry about hepatitis. No one mentioned holes in my lungs, or suction pipes attached to my chest. They gloss over "loss of your ability to eat ever again" pretty well in the paper work :) And then throw in a "but that's mostly a worry for the higher BMI folks" to put you at ease.

No one wants to hear the dirty side of this surgery. But it is important to hear it in detail, verses to see a few lines on a sheet they throw at you just before you go in. An intelligent adult will read this and process this and add it to their risk assessment without taking offense and passing out insults. Others will do something else. Who do you want to be?

since the original post time the OP has had nothing to say or respond with. I don't believe the OP is looking for any sort of sympathy' date=' and she isn't getting any from me. I agree what is the point of your ONE post? This does lead one to believe in the validity of what is posted and could have been done in a malicious way. VSG is a life saving procedure........enough said.[/quote']

For some it is a life saving procedure. FOr others it might not be. Your milage may vary from the next guy sadly. I'm glad it was great for you.

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A HIPAA violation only occurs when someone's protected health information (PHI) is exposed. She never mentioned her sisters first & last name.

You also have to be in a position that is required to be silent. She could post her sisters name all week long and not violate HIPPA as she isn't a caregiver or a person in a position to protect confidential information. My doctor can't tell you what I weigh. My pilot can all day long if he wants to.

Also, this may not be your last surgery in life and what if one day you meet the surgery you need to save your life and suffer horrible complications. Where is the human empathy we should have for others?

My God just because we did great with our surgeries does not mean we won't have future medical procedures. And no they do not go into details for the details are excruciatingly painful life debilitating problems...come on people, we choose surgeries some choose us but we do not have to condemn those who regret a surgery because it stole their life as they knew it.

If you read this this person is clearly telling people not to get this life saving surgery she logged in once just to post this .I understand a lot of people getting upset regarding some of the comments fellow sleevers left especially the ones who like me doesn't believe this individual . If I have a sad story to tell I will tell my exp but the sole purpose of this story seems like discouraging people from getting this life saving surgery. Again my apologies if I offended anyone but it bothers me just thinking that someone might gets scared and might lose the opportunity to get this life changing surgery.... My 2 cents TC

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IF someone is scared out of having this surgery because they read this and weighed their risks, than they probably shouldn't have the surgery.

Where's franke when ya need him. Maybe he can come back and share his opinion about scary outcomes :P

Oh boy, yet another genius who should not touch this surgery with a ten foot pole. I say this because apparently you cannot read.

She said her opinion,[VIOLATION OF FORUM RULES] and hate on her,calling her an idiot,you are the idiot,if you disagree alright,[VIOLATION OF FORUM RULES].

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Joseph....I know you are young, so take this as a kind old lady's concern? Don't stoop to someone's level. :). Stand tall and be respected for taking the high road :). You'll be the better man for it.

Joseph....I know you are young, so take this as a kind old lady's concern? Don't stoop to someone's level. :). Stand tall and be respected for taking the high road :). You'll be the better man for it.

I'm young, and im pretty aware of what i'm saying,whatever.
I'm young' date=' and im pretty aware of what i'm saying,whatever.[/quote']

I get what you are saying, and even agree...but it would come out better if you toned it without the excessive language :) And lest you think I'm a puritan, I can toss down a curse with the best of them...but in an argument, you actually just get dismissed when you don't do it with class and intelligence...which I know you have in you. Save the F and B word for when you are talking about the people who annoy you with your friends LOL That's what I do :P

I get what you are saying, and even agree...but it would come out better if you toned it without the excessive language :) And lest you think I'm a puritan, I can toss down a curse with the best of them...but in an argument, you actually just get dismissed when you don't do it with class and intelligence...which I know you have in you. Save the F and B word for when you are talking about the people who annoy you with your friends LOL That's what I do :P

lol ye i know i shouldn't be saying this but this guy words are pretty harsh,made me angry...
lol ye i know i shouldn't be saying this but this guy words are pretty harsh' date='made me angry...[/quote']

Ditto!

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