BJean

Bill Clinton moved into the White House with every intention of changing the medical system in this country. He put Hillary in charge of getting all of the requisite studies and people involved. But the Republicans raised holy you-know-what and clearly made the the Clintons political lives miserable until they dropped it like a hot potato. Potatoe for some Republicans. (sorry, cheap shot) The Republicans put a spin on it to make Americans believe that the Clintons wanted socialized medicine. Scared hell out of everyone. Now look where we are. The situation has only worsened. It isn't status quo. And the Republicans continue to tell everyone how horrible socialized medicine is and that the Democrats won't be happy until that's what we have. Politics at its finest.

Comrades!! Cool. :confused::cool:

L8BloomR: Your initial admonition to me was because I generalized about Republicans. You've done exactly the same thing about Democrats. Read what you've written and you'll see that. Not only have you generalized about Democrats, you've gotten personal. I haven't. You seem to think I have, but I have not. You took what I said personally even though I was talking about what the Republican party stands for, not what L8BloomR stands for. No one here has said that Democrats are saints or that they are without sin. No one is, much less a political party. However there is a big difference in the party platforms (which btw, is as it should be.) We all need choices about how our government is run. But we can't just wish our preferred party stands for certain things when in fact, it doesn't. I won't bother to go find a source for the last Republican platform that was adopted at their convention, but if you want to know what you're really voting for you might want to. Plus, you could refute anything remark I've made if you discover something that is counter to what I've said. But you're arguing about things I did not say plus you seem to be saying that because you disagree with some of the Republican policies personally, that Republicans are what you say they are, not what they really are. Idealism is a nice, comfortable mind-set, but just because Republicans or Democrats are personally good people doesn't make the entire party good or right. However, actions spell it out, and if you vote for a party that undermines the poor and middle class in this country, you shouldn't be criticizing someone who disagrees with their actions. You should work at changing it. It won't be the way you want it just because of your criticism of me. In fact, that seems pretty silly.

Well crap! I was hoping you'd be writing us some upbeat news today. One more hurdle done though. It's a process getting stuff checked out. Our medical situation really sucks. We should pass a law prohibiting doctors from making people wait when they are in such a worried state of mind. My brother waits an unbelievable amount of time for all of his test results. Weeks! He lives in Colorado Springs. We're here for you Boo!!

I thought "Queer as Folk" was an extremely refreshing story line - it seemed honest and it taught me a whole lot about gays and the problems and emotions they have to deal with. It got a tad raunchy sometimes, but it certainly was as much or more interesting to me as watching two chicks make out. We're exposed to that so often that I believe the younger generation of girls is going to grow up thinking that if they DON'T do a little one on one with another girl, there's something wrong with them. I'm the opposite of airwayman. I like men in the same way he likes women. I enjoy looking at them, talking to them, laughing with them and experiencing all manner of personal interaction with them. I'm also like airwayman in that the DH (DW, in his case) is an inhibitor of any of that now, but although he's definitely worth it, I miss knowing lots of guys, and the interaction...:paranoid

Your second post came in before I posted mine. Geez, I rest my case!

I made no assumptions about YOU. You're the one who decided to pigeon hole yourself through my comments. The political party platforms and goals are open to the public. There's no secret about it. Getting mad at me for writing about it here sure isn't going to change a thing. But if you think that the Republican party is interested in making sure that poor people have medical care, you're living in a dream world. Maybe you're one of those people who thinks that Bush is a really good man with nothing but this country's best interest governing his every decision. I don't have a problem whatsoever with what YOU believe in. I was talking about a known Republican party fact. What they say may not necessarily be what they do (of course), but we have to pay lots of attention to what they DO. You are accusing me of using the words "selfish" and "evil." I did not. I also did not speak about any specific individual, including YOU, with regard to Republicans. Why are you protesting so much and attacking me personally? I didn't attack you. I didn't even attack the Republican party. I merely said what I believe to be true about the Republican party's lack of interest in helping poor people. What you do or what your friends do for the well being of others has no absolutely no bearing on the discussion we were having. That Republicans do not support socialized medicine of any kind, and are constantly trying to figure out ways to keep from paying into the welfare system are what I think needed to be pointed out. If it made you personally uncomfortable, stop ranting and raving at me. It isn't my fault the Republican right wingers behave the way they do. Take your argument up with them.

Eddie: Congratulations on your successful relationship and possible engagement to be married!! Let me ask you a question since it's been discussed elsewhere (or maybe even here) about whether Gay people are born that way. You say pretty much that you were (born Gay), but that you tried to deny it and went so far as to lead a "conventional" life for some years. A bandster who posts regularly said that her experience has been that gay people can either abstain from sex altogether or turn their lives into "conventional" and acceptable (by the religious right) ones, if they turn to God and pray and get counseling, etc. I'm pretty sure I read an earlier post of yours that stated you are a Christian, right? So did you try counseling and prayer to overcome your gayness? Because this other poster says it sure can be done successfully and she knows people who have done it. I may have you mixed up with someone else and if I do please ignore my questions. But many of us regular posters took issue with her claims that people can be in God's and the church's good graces if only they'd turn in that direction and get the help they need to turn away from homosexuality.

LRBloom8: All righty then. I guess that means you and your friends all are interested in some kind of socialized medicine? Great!! Spread the word.

What's up with Lakisha? She has become this really sophisticated looking gal, way improved from the short denium skirt with the orange blouse. But the spark has kind of gone out of her performances. Still with the great vocal range, but nothing there to really move me to laughter or tears.

airwayman: You're definitely cute! Gotta love a man who appreciates women. You obviously do and I for one find that very attractive! *Batting eyes, flutter, flutter* And far more interesting than one of the more offensive, sexist right wingers on another thread. Who knew this anonymous stuff could be so much fun?

Well it's a good thing you're a liberal because the right wingers definitely don't want to help people like you out. They think we all just need to work harder so that we can provide our own health care. Simple, huh?

I'm sure you're right that we haven't seen the last of him. It was odd to me that he seemed so surprised that he was the one voted off. I couldn't believe that he actually got through his song after all that crying. You can tell that the contestants are becoming very close, can't you? What a relief that he's gone. It is like everyone else is really striving to do well each week and then there's Sanjaya, making a mockery of the whole thing. You know he'll be a part of the road tour. It will be interesting to see how that plays out since Simon has dissed him so much. I agree that Jordin kicked butt and Phil seemed right at home for the first time Tuesday night. However I wasn't as surprised as some were about Jordin. She has knocked my hosery off a couple of times before.

396: HUH? :) :) :confused:

396: Don't you remember how Clinton closed military bases? How he redirected a big portion of the defense budget to domestic programs? Why are you saying that our economy was good under Reagan? Mostly it wasn't! Bill Clinton and that Congress worked hard to figure out a way out of the debt we were in and they managed to do that. He didn't inherit a good governmental set of economic standards from Reagan. Your comments help me to understand where you're coming from in your support of Republicans and Dubya.

You know I have to admit that the only person who's been able to give me goosebumps is Jordin. I think you're right about keeping Sanjaya for controversy. I doubt seriously if this is the last year for Idol. It's too popular and makes way too much money.

Shabby treatment by clerks in stores is what really irritates me. It isn't so bad now that I've lost 40 lbs., but when I go shopping with my petite daughter I may as well be a slab of beef standing there. I'm totally ignored and they are all smiley and sweet to her. I've often wondered if she notices it and is embarrassed by it.

Works for me.

"...morphine patch and ....the A/C purr." My question is this: THERE'S A MORPHINE PATCH????" Please promise me Green, that if ever you locate a free-thinking pharmacist who will dispense such an item, you'll give me a call! BJean tends to be a bit of a depressive too in spite of her efforts to do the usual Pollyanna routine.

Well Green, if I were to be the judge here I'd have to ask exactly what you WORE in the parade before I decided if it counts.

Green: Give yourself a break. We all get pushed to the limit here from time to time. I frankly appreciated the fact that you became that passionate and engaged in the discussion. It honestly doesn't seem possible that there are still people around who do continue to flog the horse about George Bush's fine attributes and sterling decisions. I guess they've all bought into the idea that Bush is the "decider." You know what Forest Gump says... stupid is as stupid does. Run Forest, run!

Bravo, Bravo to Morsaille!! I agree with Carlene - best darned post - but I'd go so far as to say in any thread! For Bush supporters to deny that the Morsaille post is true could only be because of lack of exposure or just plain ignorance of the facts. I have lived it every day for the past 34 years, with a gap of four prior to that, and then the 3 years prior to that. TOM should jump on this bandwagon. He's seen the numbers and studied it over the years too. All of the economics is bad... really bad. But the worst part and the part that we just can't get around is the DEATH and INJURIES of American soldiers!!!!! How in the blinking hell can George W. Bush sleep at night? I'm afraid he sleeps like a baby.

Sunta: I'm still trying to find myself. If I learn that I'm a homosexual liberal atheist I'll let you know.

airwayman: You're on... but I hope you're not just one of those dudes who's all talk! :heh: Jump in here synicalchick. I'm not sure I can hold my own. If you'll pardon the expression.:tired

I'll bet you wish there was a way to skip April, for several reasons. Karen said it best and I reiterate her sentiments! And T.S. Eliot was a sharp dude. My sister died on my brother's birthday and I am often so distracted by thinking of how much I miss her that I have actually forgotten that it is my brother's birthday. April should be a season to celebrate all things good and wonderful in your life. I've had several very difficult deaths and miss them all so much to this day. The way I finally have been able to come to grips with their deaths, to be able to look at photos of them and smile over the memories we shared, is that I realize that death is just another part of life. We can't get through this life without experiencing it. It's always going to happen to friends and loved ones and even ourselves. We can't control it (mostly) and we must deal with it. So in our loved ones' honor, we should make the very best of the time we have here on earth. I am absolutely certain if I could talk with them one more time, they would give me that advice. Celebrate your life, TOM! You're a smart, wonderful person and you contribute a lot and influence a lot of us right here every day. Thank you for that and please know that we care about you and wish you the very best.