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Girl!!! You are next to all my family. I'm from Texas. My sister is in College Station I think. I have been back in a long time. All my other family is all over Houston and Lake Charles, etc. I have so many friends there, too. Hope your surgery goes better this time. I appreciate you sharing your fears. I love this place. I thank God for you all. I feel better about my surgery. My surgeon is amazing. He has been wonderful. Yes, he is Board Certified. He has great ratings that match up completely with my experience with him. I was just scared about the hospital. That has hopefully been addressed. I spoke to a very pleasant girl today and she assured me that I'm in good hands. And I really feel that way now. And I brought my concerns up to the doctor. It will all be fine. I loathe complaining. You always feel like they will stick you extra hard with the needles or give you a Clorox IV Bahaa. Good luck with your surgery!!

My. first slip was pizza the first week post op. Adding spicy Condiments followed. I was arrogant thinking that I could handle it. I may have thought I was getting away with it but I started to have really bad reflux and had stopped my reflux med. I also had that terrible feeling you experienced from overeating. When I had my follow up appointment, I was told that it was possible that I had damage with the spicy foods and not sticking to my full liquid diet.
I have digestive issues anyway so ignoring the "rules" made no sense. My brain now talks to me when I think I can have something that does not comply with my soft foods diet. I analyze everything and find that so much it would seem like I can eat is a "no". It's like, "you can have fruits but it can't have skin or seeds", "you can have vegetables but they have to be cooked, soft and watch out of gas producing vegetables. You can have Beans though." go figure. I no longer scoff at the rules though because I only have another week or two before I go on regular foods. I made it this far, why blow it.
I would think that we all have pushed the limits at some point and lived to regret it. Don't be discouraged by the mistakes you make. You are awesome!

Unlike many others on this board I absolutely abhor the "abstinence forever, never again" approach with a passion because in too many cases it leads to the exact same problem that made you gain back 160 lbs. People start bingeing on the "forbidden foods" they denied themselves for a long time. That's not unusual and it happened after the diets we used to put ourselves through before WLS.
I personally think it's a huge mistake of treatment teams to hammer the "abstinence forever, never again" mantra into the heads of their patients instead of steering them into the direction to learn to handle these foods in a sensible way because most patients will sooner or later try these "forbidden foods". They're tasty, they are maybe old favorites and (maybe that is the worst trigger) your environment views them as normal foods that can be eaten without feeling like a sinner that has fallen from grace.
So now that the damage is done it's of course a huge and bitter pill to swallow. However, you now know that the approach you tried before didn't work for you. So you can do different and better this time. Yes, you need to cut down on calories but instead of denying yourself all the foods you like, incorporate them within reasonable amounts. Read about "normal eating" (the books of e. g. Geneen Roth or Karen Koenig have a lot to offer), it can help tremendously with emotional eating or strong food cravings.
Do you still have restriction? If so, you still have something to work with and while the road ahead is a long one you can still make your way to a substantial amount of weight loss - but maybe you want to choose a slightly different road this time since the road you travelled before got you back to your starting point in the end, running around in a painful circle.

Hang in there. You are in the right place.

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I'm in the hospital. My symptoms became much worse after my post. They did a cat scan and I have a blockage. They gave me morphine and zofran. It fel better until they needed me ri drink contrast solution. The pain came back and I was given more morphine. I ended up having a severe panic attack and they medicated me for that. I'm just waiting for my do for to tell me how they will proceed from here.

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Just wait it out... it will feel better.. It took me like 2 hours to feel better after overeating in the beginning. I rarely overeat now, but I did tonight and I am paying for it now.. just laying down waiting for the pain to subside.

Oh my gosh I feel so sick. No vomiting but feel stomach pain and burping a lot. Please tell me this will go away? I’m 15 days post RNY.

I added imitation crab meat to my egg whites this morning and threw some mozzarella cheese on top. I would have liked to add spinach but I am day one on my soft food diet. Does anyone know if spinach is a good idea? It is soft but stringy so idk.
I am dying for taco shells, wheat tortillas or tortilla chips. They are considered sharp or difficult to digest I am assuming.
My husband made some taco meat so I am adding that to my fat free refried Beans with green chilies and lime.
I also have no-hip nachos. ( beans, taco meat, sour cream, mild guacamole, jalapeños and fresh salsa. The problem is that I am not a bland food eater and spicy foods are not allowed. Needless to say I eat salsa and jalapeños but I guess my gut is accustomed.

I use the recommended tool of minimizing the size of the dish and utensils. I bought crystal 1 oz. shot glasses to make me enjoy the experience more since shot glasses are recommended. That is what I most often use to measure my food and Snacks and often eat from. I also use appetizer spoons (or child/baby spoons) which are pretty and small. These tools definitely help to make me eat less and slower. They also make me think.
That being said, yes, I have overeaten when I don't feel like following rules and don't stop before I am full. When the food all gets to where it is headed, misery. But I was told that it will settle down after about 20 minutes. I was also told not to lay down until it clears but with my system, I have to lay down to give the gas room to roll up or down. It helps me to relax my stomach and esophagus and keep me from tensing up making it worse. Having gastritis has given me much experience.
We are all going through learning experiences and will probably all make mistakes along the way, however, we are not alone on this journey. This was definitely a scare but I hope you find the courage to kick ass.

I use the recommended tool of minimizing the size of the dish and utensils. I bought crystal 1 oz. shot glasses to make me enjoy the experience more since shot glasses are recommended. That is what I most often use to measure my food and Snacks and often eat from. I also use appetizer spoons (or child/baby spoons) which are pretty and small. These tools definitely help to make me eat less and slower. They also make me think.
That being said, yes, I have overeaten when I don't feel like following rules and don't stop before I am full. When the food all gets to where it is headed, misery. But I was told that it will settle down after about 20 minutes. I was also told not to lay down until it clears but with my system, I have to lay down to give the gas room to roll up or down. It helps me to relax my stomach and esophagus and keep me from tensing up making it worse. Having gastritis has given me much experience.
We are all going through learning experiences and will probably all make mistakes along the way, however, we are not alone on this journey. This was definitely a scare but I hope you find the courage to kick ass.

Trollish behavior has elevated in every facet of American life over the last year and a half. As much as I'd like to be able to leave politics out of it, just look at the troll in chief in the White House. Trump is by far the meanest, nastiest, crudest and most classless person ever to hold national office and much of the GOP is taking on the same demeanor.

That's one of several reasons, but absolutely that kind of attitude from the president has spread into public life. People who felt marginalized before, people like homophobes, bigots and white supremacists have clearly gotten more vocal over since Trump won the election, and that's compounded by the fact that Trump has done very little to distance himself from them. In fact, he says thinks like there are good people on both sides of a KKK rally, he uses phrases like "America First," a slogan used by American Nazis in the 1940s who sided with Germany and recently called reporter Chuck Todd, who is Jewish, "Sleepy Eyed," a derogatory term used by white supremacists to describe Jews. When people like that see that their words and behavior will go unchecked it emboldens them to get louder and louder.

I don't think it is helpful to lecture someone when they have trusted professionals to guide them in their best interests and that trust was broken. In my opinion It is not our place to reprimand only to listen and support. We can't change the decisions we have made to this point but we can learn from them. If someone needs to vent then it seems this is the place to do it. I hear depression and it can be pushed much deeper by blame and shame. Yes, I am new here but have been trained in trauma counseling so I have seen the damage that can be done. From what I hear, It took courage to admit the mistake and not applauding that courage, heightens the chance that the courage won't be found again. I hope you will not shoot the messenger.

I am not pre-op but post op but cannot figure out how to change my statistics.

I don't think it is helpful to lecture someone when they have trusted professionals to guide them in their best interests and that trust was broken. In my opinion It is not our place to reprimand only to listen and support. We can't change the decisions we have made to this point but we can learn from them. If someone needs to vent then it seems this is the place to do it. I hear depression and it can be pushed much deeper by blame and shame. Yes, I am new here but have been trained in trauma counseling so I have seen the damage that can be done. From what I hear, It took courage to admit the mistake and not applauding that courage, heightens the chance that the courage won't be found again. I hope you will not shoot the messenger.

My gastric bypass was 2 weeks ago so I haven't had a chance for regrets. I am writing to let you know that I too had a Nissen about 10 years ago. It helped a little since my GERD was so bad that I literally had acid burn in my mouth. Over the years the problem has returned to its original state. With the bypass, my surgeon said the Nissen had come apart so he did away with it. What? I am still in panic mode though he said he took measures to disable the nerve that activates acid secretion. Yeah, I know, I don't get it either but my husband says there are no longer any protons to inhibit with acid blockers. I will keep asking the surgeon to explain it until I finally get it. The surgeon said I will have the reflux for about a week and its been two. I don't know the difference in reflux and food backing up due to overeating.
Due to the Nissen I could only have a gastric bypass, none of the other lesser procedures. It sounds like the Nissen would have been required regardless of the WLS. Mine was. I understand your frustration and pain. I was so happy when they told me they could fix my GERD that I literally cried and to be honest, any relief was a plus. I support you.

I don't think it is helpful to lecture someone when they have trusted professionals to guide them in their best interests and that trust was broken. In my opinion It is not our place to reprimand only to listen and support. We can't change the decisions we have made to this point but we can learn from them. If someone needs to vent then it seems this is the place to do it. I hear depression and it can be pushed much deeper by blame and shame. Yes, I am new here but have been trained in trauma counseling so I have seen the damage that can be done. From what I hear, It took courage to admit the mistake and not applauding that courage, heightens the chance that the courage won't be found again. I hope you will not shoot the messenger.

Thank you!

I don't think it is helpful to lecture someone when they have trusted professionals to guide them in their best interests and that trust was broken. In my opinion It is not our place to reprimand only to listen and support. We can't change the decisions we have made to this point but we can learn from them. If someone needs to vent then it seems this is the place to do it. I hear depression and it can be pushed much deeper by blame and shame. Yes, I am new here but have been trained in trauma counseling so I have seen the damage that can be done. From what I hear, It took courage to admit the mistake and not applauding that courage, heightens the chance that the courage won't be found again. I hope you will not shoot the messenger.

Worse yet, is getting the surgery, losing the weight, and then gaining it all back because you weren't truly ready to make the lifestyle changes for surgery to be successful. One of the most reliable predictors of long term success is the person who emphatically says, "I AM NEVER GOING BACK!" and determines to make all the changes necessary for that to happen. That means not cheating and slipping back into foods that caused the problem in the first place. Some of those foods may be reintroduced in very minimal amounts once maintenance is reached. Until then, they only undermine both the weight loss and the mental changes that need to happen. One of the biggest changes is to make the mental switch from seeing these foods as desirable to seeing them as enemies to your health. This reframing takes a lot of practice and determination, but it has to happen. When you can joyfully choose an apple over a cookie, and not feel deprived, but rather feel empowered, you know you are making the change.
The pre-op diet is hard, no doubt, but it is for a very limited time frame. Others may disagree with me, but it is my opinion that if someone can't stick to 2 weeks of preop, they are not ready for the real challenge of a total transformation of eating and living for the rest of one's life.

I don't think it is helpful to lecture someone when they have trusted professionals to guide them in their best interests and that trust was broken. In my opinion It is not our place to reprimand only to listen and support. We can't change the decisions we have made to this point but we can learn from them. If someone needs to vent then it seems this is the place to do it. I hear depression and it can be pushed much deeper by blame and shame. Yes, I am new here but have been trained in trauma counseling so I have seen the damage that can be done. From what I hear, It took courage to admit the mistake and not applauding that courage, heightens the chance that the courage won't be found again. I hope you will not shoot the messenger.

I like this quote:
"You are so much more than what a mirror can show you. You are made of a million different things that make you deserving of love, a mirror can only show you one of them."

I won't miss:
Bragging about my weight loss and reveling in the compliments, then gaining it all back so that the next time I brag, I get silence or boredom.
I won't miss being afraid of falling down and not being able to get back up.
I won't miss falling down and having people panic that I won't be able to get back up.
Struggling to get back up.
Making excuses for my weight.
Making inane jokes about my weight to cover my lack of confidence.
Having people comment on how much or what I am eating.
The feeling that people won't or don't like me because of my weight (internalized too much crap I read in my teens and early adulthood).
Guilt!
Having my cat knead my stomach for comfort.
Having children tell me I'm fat. Don't people teach their kids discretion?
Thanks for the topic, happy to be here.

I like this quote:
"You are so much more than what a mirror can show you. You are made of a million different things that make you deserving of love, a mirror can only show you one of them."

I like this quote:
"You are so much more than what a mirror can show you. You are made of a million different things that make you deserving of love, a mirror can only show you one of them."