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Ok, here's a comical one. In the first few weeks after surgery when my gut was completely wonky, I had a lil accident...thinking I was farting...while out shopping with my bestie. She ran and bought me a new pair of underpants and wet wipes while I hid in the bathroom cringing. OMG... Yep, pooping your pants in Kohl's is drama:)

I ate 1000 calories a day by 3 weeks, and about 1200 per day most of my loss phase. Ask your team what they advise. Do your best and be patient with yourself.

Talk to your nutritionist or bariatric team. They can help you sort out a good menu and give you some advice for getting things moving again. The three week stall is so legendary and typical, it has several threads here if you search. Hang in there and try to be patient. You're not alone and it will be ok.

I know there are a lot of folks who won't like this information, won't believe it, and don't want to hear about it. There are an equal number of folks who are concerned and are trying to learn all they can about it. Most bariatric patients eat 20%+ of their calories from protein. Worse, most bariatric patients eat mostly animal sources of protein....meat, eggs, cheese, milk...all the whey drinks. Traditional dietary advice for the bariatric patient puts the patient distinctly at odds with emerging findings on protein's effect on IGF-1.... and is a diet that significantly increases the odds of cancer in people under 65. The effect is a person who is working very very hard...potentially leaping out of the frying pan into the fire. If you're eating 20%+ of your calories from protein, and particularly, animal protein...this is research that you should be aware of, and have access to weigh for yourself. This affects you. MOST folks here have been or currently are in this category. You may decide to do nothing. You may decide to talk to your doctor or dietitian about it. You may decide to do more research. I'm not telling anyone what to do. You may decide to make some small changes. Replace a whey protein product with a pea protein product. Eat a little less cheese and a few more nuts. Have less dairy pudding and more Chia seed pudding. Maybe have a veggie burger once a week and omit a serving of beef. Maybe you'll make some big changes....maybe you'll be comfortable with small changes....or no changes at all. Awareness of these studies is at best.....important...and at worst...harmless. People have a right to make up their own minds.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/03/04/the-protein-puzzle-meat-and-dairy-may-significantly-increase-cancer-risk/#39c8a2bc58b7 Note that in this article: A high-protein diet was defined as getting 20% of one’s daily calories coming from protein, a moderate-protein diet is made up of 10-19% calories from protein, and a low-protein diet consists of less than 10% protein.

tnks2ph, wish I knew what to tell you. I don't. I don't have any clue about your mental health issues, so I sure as hell would not advise you to drop your meds. Frankly, I think anyone who would say that to a stranger on the internet after reading one post...really needs to do some thinking about how dangerously unwise that is. I know that SSRI meds are infamous for causing weight gain. Some of the other ones are even worse. And shockingly...none of them is anything like pred....which sucks, too....but can't be compared. Best advice I can see that you've been given: "do not stop your meds without medical supervision if you have to choose between mental stability and being thin choose metal stability. i dont think you have to choose but if it comes down to just those 2 options choose mental health. you will take longer to get there but you have the rest of your life to finish this race." For your safety, you need some professional medical expertise on this topic. You won't find it here. Maybe try to get a referral consult with a psychiatric group who works with eating disorders? They might have more advanced knowledge on how different psychiatric meds effect diet and weight outcomes...and have strategies for overcoming the difficulties you're experiencing. There are a lot of people in your shoes. Someone reputable has good answers. Just have to find them. Wishing you the best.

I had sleeve surgery a year ago and I ate some last week. I prefer the nut meats only, but I had a handful in the shell with my bestie and didn't suffer any ill effects. Best, always, to ask your nutritionist about this kinda stuff. Some people have incredibly sensitive digestion after surgery. Some do very well with this kind of thing. Just depends a bit on which kind of experience your anatomy picks. I ate popcorn two months out and had no issues. I've never once vomited since surgery and other than corn on the cob...have never had anything give me discomfort. I munch down potato skins, celery, seeds and nuts, apples with skins, pretty much everything. Other folks...will have problems with lettuce. Just kinda depends. Wish I had a better answer. Best wishes! When in doubt...ask your clinic.

I love movies, but haven't seen one at the theater that I've liked in quite a while. Blockbusters kinda a leave me....meh. Have seen some good ones on Amazon, Hulu and Netflix, though. They're not new, but here are a few recent favorites: My First Mister 2001 A Man Called Ove (Swedish film) 2015 Departures (Japanese film) 2008 Love these films. SO good:) Also love any of the old animations from (Japanese) Studio Ghibli....have been exploring them recently, and they're a treasure. Start with My Neighbor Totoro:)

You might enjoy watching the video journals of bariatric patients on youtube if you haven't already. It's kinda fun to watch people talk about their experiences. Good luck!

If you have a number to call for after hours concerns...I'd use it. Even if they don't want to send you to the ER, they'll likely want to keep track of this. And they may opt to send you to the ER. Does not sound like dumping. Update us when you can. Wishing you the best.

Your fatigue concerns me. Sounds like you're eating really sensibly and mindfully...so you really should have energy. Two ideas... 1. Get a physical. Not a bariatric physical...but a regular one. See if your regular doc has any ideas. If that checks out and s/he thinks you're physically ok, maybe try... 2. Have a visit with a bariatric therapist. Sometimes losing a lifelong coping mechanism and all the changes we go through...can have emotional fall out we don't realize. Can cause some depression that can put us off our game. Can't hurt to look into if nothing else is making sense. Best wishes! Feel better soon!

Am 46. Sleeved almost one year ago. Feel amazing:)

How many calories per day do you average?

I get a water (or sneak one in) and squirt some Mio in it. Will eat a little of hubby's popcorn and nibble on nuts in my pocket.

Went to Ihop the other night. Had the Southwest scramble. Ate about a third of it, and opted out of the toast/pancakes/tortillas. Essentially, you get scrambled eggs with salsa and avacado and cheese. You also get potatoes with peppers and onions. I ate all the salsa and avacado and peppers....some of the eggs with cheese...and a few potatoes. Was pretty good! At my favorite steakhouse, I get a tenderloin steak kabob. it has steak, onion, mushroom, green pepper. I have it with a baked potato and side salad, and eat around half. Really good. Sometimes I go to KFC and get a chicken breast and peel the skin off (130 calories) and eat it with a mashed potatoes and gravy (120 calories) and green beans (25 calories).... 275 calories to eat at KFC.... 29 grams of protein. Not a bad lunch on the go! I like Burger King's Veggie Burger. Can only eat half, but it's delicious, and I have them put extra veggies on it. Only about 200 calories for half. At McD's....the original egg mcmuffin is not a bad choice! 17 grams of protein, about 290 calories. Can't eat a whole one, but find what I can eat very satisfying. Nearly any restaurant has a legal option if you look hard enough......but you have to be willing to look for them...and if the restaurant is a trigger for you, you might be better off avoiding it. Gas stations always have packs of nuts, cheese sticks, and lots of them have hard boiled eggs. At a nicer restaurant....pick a good protein, add a side or two, and just watch calories. After a while, it's not hard. You figure out what works, and it's still really nice to go out.

I had good luck with mashed potato, refried beans, oatmeal, pea soup, poached fish, egg, and a lot of protein drinks. In the early stages, I found that the toddler meat sticks were really gentle on my stomach. They're made with poultry and whey and are a good texture to move through and not get stuck. Skim milk and greek yogurt worked. I especially liked the whipped yogurt...it was light and fluffy. In the beginning, you do whatever you can tolerate. Your dietitian should have some great ideas.

I don't mind people who disagree with something I've posted and say why they do. That's civil disagreement, and it's always welcome in my threads. And even encouraged. I love a good debate, particularly when people can provide some links to reputable research. Adults can disagree without being backbiting and taking everything that's said in general....as if it were aimed at them personally. Which is isn't. Adults should be able to walk away when they don't care for a topic or don't find it relevant. Adults should be able to keep debating civilly, or lose interest and move on peacefully. Last I checked, the only person with the right to patrol and control the content of the board...is the board's owner. That whole....Live and let live thing? Some folks on this board need to work that.

As Summerset pointed out, percentage of calories coming from protein is the best gauge of how "high protein" a diet is. Quoting studies that show compelling evidence that high protein diets are dangerous long term isn't fear mongering...it's trusting adults to read the literature themselves and gain awareness. Knowledge is never a bad thing.

^^This! Spot on point, Summerset.

Research would say I am not inflating the issue. Research also backs up my claim that getting most of your protein from animal sources by severely restricting protein rich carbs...might not be wise. Not to mention the fiber you lose when you do this....that is important for healthy gut bugs. I'm not correcting anyone. I'm putting some information out there. Take what you like, leave the rest:)

Topic absolutely applies to bariatrics. Eating too much protein can increase your odds of cancer, diabetes, renal failure and other illnesses associated with premature aging. MANY people here post menus that include more than 100g of protein per day. There are a lot of clinics that encourage their patients to eat as much protein as they can tolerate. It's terrible and potentially dangerous advice...particularly when people see it as a means to get thinner quicker. Also...if these threads are not of interest to you and you don't find them of value, you are welcome to ignore them, or even block me. I've blocked a few posters I find unpleasant or uninteresting... and have had a much better experience at BP since I have:)

I eat a lot of healthy carbs...so I don't crave the really awful ones and fall off the wagon.

A huge part of my success/recovery from obesity...has been working through the causes of my lifelong overeating with my therapist. If lack of being able to overeat is sucking the joy out of your life...it might be time to consult your therapist. I promise they don't bite...and even a crusty skeptic like me...has found talking about my food issues incredibly helpful with my progress.

My health hasn't been this good since my 20's. I feel amazing. My strength and stamina shock me. One problem that was addressed by my surgery that was unexpected....was discovering and correcting a vitamin D deficiency. I think the multivitamins shore up nutritional gaps and support good immune function. I have not had so much as a cold since my surgery almost a year ago. I have not had any coughs or infections. I did have my flu shot both last year and this year...which might have helped. Dental-wise, my teeth have been perfect. Had them cleaned twice since surgery and both times had a clean dental bill of health. This was of particular concern to me....because I had a dental implant two years ago with a bone graft and was scared it could fail. Nope...it's doing great. No issues at all. The conditions that have improved since my weight loss and new diet: No longer pre-diabetic. No longer have hypertension. No longer have breathing issues at night. No longer have acid reflux. No longer have intermittent hemorrhoids or anal fissure (ouch!)..it's GONE:) My anus is a happy healthy camper. I know this is gross, but I want to offer hope to the afflicted. LOL. No longer have obesity related skin rashes. (got them in my groin/thigh crease sometimes and it bothered me) No longer have leg edema! At all! You can see the tendons on top of my feet and I LOVE them! Can also wear normal sized tall boots instead of the wide calf ones:) No longer get warts on my toes. I think this was related to my leg edema. I used to get sore throats constantly. Several times a year. Have not had one since weight loss. No longer have chronic loose stool. Dietary changes fixed this one completely. Poo is textbook. I have a much better libido:) I have fewer hormonal break-outs. Arthritis still stinks...but is MUCH better. No more daily pain meds. My energy is through the roof. Only negatives I can think of.... Psychologically, I wasn't really prepared to have a lifelong coping mechanism just disappear....it was surprisingly unpleasant to work through that. Didn't see that coming! Lost about half my hair. Good thing my hair is crazy thick! It's growing back:)

Apples are incredibly good for you. They're delicious. They provide and feed some wonderful gut microbiota and they're chock full of phytonutrients you need to prevent illness. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-health-benefits-of-apples#section6 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC442131/#idm140507075898624title The trick is to pick carbs that have lots of nutrients and fiber... and less refined empty crap. Apples are a stellar choice! If my body is craving the hell out of carbs...I don't put myself in the position where I lose my mind and go completely off the reservation and eat something stupid. I have some fruit or beans. I have a whole grain snack...some oatmeal or whole grain toast. I beat the carb cravings into submission and outsmart them by giving them some good carbs that are rich and in plant protein, fiber, or both. You want carbs, body? Ok, you can have plenty...but I get to pick good ones. I eat a lot of fruit. I love fruit now. I very honestly would prefer fruit to candy and donuts these days....which I would never have believed a year ago. My favorite "comfort food" is watermelon now. I would rather have a slab of watermelon with candles on it than a birthday cake. LOL:) And you know what? I feel better. I don't feel edgy or like I'm in a war with food. I don't feel like I must banish things forever or punish and deny myself. I trust myself to stop at a couple of bites on special things on special occasions....because I truly love my regular forever diet. Because of my high fiber diet....staying in my calorie limit is incredibly easy. When I'm not eating fruit and whole grains, I'm munching on side salads, carrots in hummus, bowls of veggie soup, cans of mushrooms, There are 15 calories in a little can of mushrooms. For 15 calories...you get 2 grams of protein and 3 grams of fiber. Mushrooms are a nutritional powerhouse and I'm glad I love them. Hungry people with cravings make bad choices. I don't go there anymore. I eat. A lot. But really mindfully.