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What a wanker......Sounds like somebody is taking their job a little too seriously.

Know how to lose 20 lbs in 1 week? Cut off a leg. Sorry......now back to your regularly scheduled thread.......

*disclaimer* easily offended DS'ers may want to stop reading So, I was snooping in the DS forum on OH, and it seems like quite a few were drawn to that surgery because they could "eat normal food all they wanted". Sure, I know that these people are probably the minority, and that most of the DS'ers use it as a tool, responsibly. Heck, for that matter, I'm sure there are a lot of banders that misuse the band (although I haven't seen many here......perhaps they know better than to flaunt their flagrant misuse of the band). Do the DS'res have to get a psyche eval like the banders (uh.....I guess I can only speak for my area)? It just strikes me as a little odd to fix the outside without even trying to fix the inside.

Gotcha, thanks! I've never heard that particular term....

Let me quit eavesdropping and ask something totally not my bees-wax: What in the hell is a "pannis"? Sounds like the scottish inflection for the male organ? Uh, I do know what a cameltoe is.....but isn't the cure for that to wear less tight pants?

Yeah, an A is considered "excellent", not "perfect". I think some professors do the "nobody gets an A" thing because of an inflated sense of intellectualism, ie, the students are nowhere near the instructor's idea of an excellent paper.

I feel your pain Wheetsin. I detest neighbors. That's why I live on 40 acres of beackwoods in the middle of Nowhere, Texas. I have to drive 20 minutes into town, but....neither do I have aggravation of the sort that you describe.

What if the child, having been raised in the belief system, refused treatment (I know that she couldn't have legally refused, being a minor)? Then you'd have a situation where the parents are refusing treatment and the minor is refusing. I believe there was a case similar to the above scenario with a 15-16 yr old boy and chemotherapy. Sure, the cases are different. But the point is, if you hold that the government should intervene, then what age should the child have a say? Also, seems like people are starting to take this debate a lil' personally. I think if you read back, both snuffy and I agree that this child's death was needless and tragic. I was just making the point that if you are of any faith, then maybe you could empathize with the decision of choosing between religion and the realities of secular life. To argue that "my religion makes exceptions for...." or "God would never...." is not the point, because then you're implying that your religion is more correct, and that's a whole 'nother thread.

That's cool Chris. The only downside to dental devices is that they work by thrusting your jaw "out and up" all night, so you may notice a litle soreness when you wake in the mornings....

It's a bit off topic (but only a little), but here in Texas (the home of "no child left behind") public schools are a trainwreck. School funding is now directly proportional to the % of how many students pass the standardized test (keep in mind that the actual grades on the test don't matter that much. A perfect score is nearly weighted the same as 1 pt above passing). As a result, teachers spend the whole school year doing nothing but "teaching the test" (maximizing the number of students that will pass.....thus earning more dollars from the state). Teaching the test is ok for low achieving students, but for average and bright students, it is a huge dis-service. Don't believe me? Ask any public teacher in Texas. The days of a decent public school education in Texas are long gone. Basically, the students only learn what the Texas legislature dictates they should learn.

Wheetsin, what about the "patient's bill of rights"? It expressly states that a patient can refuse all or any part of treatments or therapy. Seeking a cure is taking the Pt's bill of rights (or a DNR order) to an extreme. Like Snuffy, I'm not really siding with the parents on this one. However, SOMEbody has to play the devil's advocate! Most of my opposition to forcing the parents to administer meds against their beliefs comes from my disgust at having the government pry into our private lives.

Here in Texarkana, the bariatric docs make every lapband pt get a sleep study. It's pretty cool having just been through it myself. I can usually answer a lot of questions....

tread carefully or somebody'll lecture you on how their DS allows them to eat "steak and candy" and still be healthy.

I admit to sometimes being a hijacker. But it's the only way I can get to Cuba, dammit!!

Laurend, why do you stay away from Ohio? Kidding.

But Laurend......there is no constitutional caveat about not paying taxes. There is, however, a little something about religious freedom. I couldn't convict these parents for following their religious beliefs ( assuming this religion has already been established......like they didn't start the church yesterday, and have a congregation of 3 people, or something shady like that) any more than I could jail an Amish man for being a "concientious objector" and refusing combat. It's such a complicated case. A big part of me (especially since I work in the medical field) is like "Of course your child is going to die without treatment, dumbass". But......in the hospital cultural and religious tolerance is a huge issue, and we're almost universally taught to respect the patients' (or guardians') decisions, even if we don't agree with them.

Uh, Sue....I'm glad you found something you like more than the band (or that works better for you than the band). But.....this is the "Rants and Raves" section of Lapbandtalk. If somebody finds some humor in something (and yes.....charcoal underpants and charcoal suppositories and being written up for having gas sooooo bad it would choke satan.......I find it funny) in this forum, why rip on them? It'd be like going to the Knock Knock Joke section and getting all angry that folks are posting knock knock jokes. If anybody on DStalk (an example to illustrate my point. I don't know if any such site exists) wants to open a topic making fun of the weird products a lapbander might need, go for it. I can pretty much assure you that nobody here will make an effort to go onto that site and post about how insensitive it is. You do sound bitter about not losing much weight with the band. I don't know if you really are or not.......but that's how you're coming off. Don't even get me started on the "my numbers are good so I must be healthy" stuff. That's for another post.

I agree 1000% with OH Juli (although, with that "1000%" stat, you can tell math is not my thing) about going to school later. Finish your bach now. It only gets much, much harder as you get older and life gives you more valid reasons to NOT go back to school. Just do it!

I'm a respiratory therapist and a sleep therapist.

When I first started reading this thread, I'll admit I thought "C'mon, what's the big deal? It's a fart. Have you ever encountered a fart that didn't stink?"........but wow......somebody on the DS thread wrote that they got WRITTEN UP at work over a gas issue!!! How does the boss conduct that meeting without laughing?!?

Personally, I feel like they were misguided. I'm baptist....and personally think God gave us medicine and surgeons for a reason. But I don't know how I feel about them being charged, if they did what they did for religious reasons. Christian Scientists have a religious aversion to most medicines. Jehovah's Witnesses regularly refuse blood transfusions........but then you read about kooks who starve and beat a child in an "exorcism"-like ritual. At the risk of sounding like a one-trick (or phrase) pony, It's a very slippery slope to navigate. I'm glad I don't have the final say as to whether those parents should be charged or not.

Has anybody thought how hellish their support meetings must be? Get a group of 12-14 of them together....... Charcoal Undies. Man, that is hardcore!

I requested my band be made out of sandpaper. 'Cause I'm tough.

Almost anything from Jeff Buckley. That'll take ya from slow dancing to Bow-Chinka-wow-wow.....

Hey I just had an idea. Maybe Fairyfacade could work with the just a drop people and create a new "rainbow scent". Sounds like a winner!! Wasa, I'm with you. I read a lot in their forum. I couldn't quit reading....it was TOO entertaining. I was literally reading with tears in my eyes from laughing (I know.....I'm a mean bast*rd.....can't help it). Especially the lady whose horrible smelling gas apparently somehow eminates from her mommyparts. Wow, romantic.