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Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

These all sound like really tasty ideas! I wish cauliflower didn't cost $7 a head right now, or I'd totally be trying all of those! So good for you, and lots of Protein too!

Do you know for sure that she's upset about gaining weight back? I only ask because if that is for sure the case, then maybe she'd be into 'starting fresh' with you once you have your surgery - like the two of you can go through the pre-op/post-op diet steps together - you for the first time, and her as a 'reset'. Might be a good way to address a few of the issues your friend is going through
I've read of a number of folks doing just that after gaining some weight back a year or two out - sort of a reset - to get back on track. It might be great for the both of you to have such a support!
Just an idea.

1) your nut is an idiot by setting too high of expectations. I was down 17 pounds at 2 1/2 months and I never considered myself a slow loser.
2) drink more Water. You should shoot for 64 oz but more is better....I get closer to 100oz most days.
3)as for loriemoms nut saying shakes are artificial Protein, she, too, is an idiot. whey Protein is simply the liquid portion of milk that settles to the top during the cheese making process....just like what settles out of yogurt or cottage cheese. There's nothing artificial about it. In fact, it is the number one, fastest, best absorbed form of protein available. Better than meat, eggs, tofu, fish, etc.
GENEPRO, however IS artificial. It is a chemically modified molecule that started out as protein but no longer is. The company is a quack and cannot provide any amino acid profile for their product and has absolutely no science based studies supporting their claims or even show if our bodies can absorb it. Anyone with a basic understanding of biochemistry can look at their product and see it's not really protein.
Good luck, you are doing great!

As you can see from everyone's responses, everyone has different experiences - so there is no way for anyone to know when you will stop burping, lol. Here's my experience to add to the pile...
Right after surgery, for about 3-4 weeks, I had many little burps after every single sip - but I was glad for them, getting gas out etc. That was when I was on clear, and then full liquids only. Since I started adding purees about a week ago, it's much less burping with each sip of liquid, but still some, maybe one or two - but I'm trying to get those burps! I do get small burps every other bite of puree'd food or so now too, but they are much less pronounced, or smaller maybe than with liquids. I'm only 25 days out or so now, so I guess we'll see what happens!

It seems that at least 50% of the posts on BariatriPal are bemoaning a stall. Daily, and sometimes hourly, I am reading about how someone ONLY lost x number of pounds and now the scale hasn't moved in ___ [fill in the blank] days/months, etc. Oh no, they write, I am a failure/unique/my surgery didn't work/life is not fair, ... Why am I in a stall?
I know I am exaggerating but I think you get the idea.
Guess what? STALLS are a NORMAL part of the PROCESS of losing weight. If you want to lose weight, you will stall. Not just once, but over and over. And, guess what? A stall is where your body actually does the hard work of becoming smaller. It takes a lot of work and energy to dismantle a structure that has been holding up, in some cases, hundreds of pounds.
For those who think they have to DO something to somehow "break a stall" (in my opinion, you do not break a stall, you just ride them out), here is my response:
What can you do to "break" a stall?
1) STAY OFF THE SCALE
Relax and stay off the scale if it bothers you so much. Weigh no more than once a week, or even less often. Weighing only at your doctor's appointments early in the process is a good strategy if your mood and self-worth are dictated by the numbers on the scale.
2) PICK UP A TAPE MEASURE
In addition to using the numbers on the scale to measure your progress, take your measurements. Inches lost are also a great way to see physical progress when the scale isn't moving. Most people see the biggest physical changes in their body when the scale seems stuck.
3) TRACK YOUR Protein AND Water AND MEET OR EXCEED YOUR PROTEIN AND WATER GOAL EVERY DAY
As long as you are getting in all your protein and water and following your NUT and surgeon's instructions, you are doing what you are supposed to do.
If you aren't getting in all your protein and water, then increasing your protein and water is something you can do (and should be doing anyway whether or not you are in a stall).
4) EXERCISE
If you aren't exercising, then you can exercise (and should be whether or not you are in a stall). You can start slowly by walking or even moving more around the house. Exercising will help you feel better, tone your skin and build fat-burning muscle.
5) MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH YOUR NUT
If you are unsure or unclear about what you are supposed to be, or should not be eating, then make an appointment with your NUT (which you should be doing whether or not you are in a stall).
6) REASSESS AND REEVALUATE
About the only good result I see that comes from complaining about a stall is when you take an honest look at what you are doing and realign with the program recommended by your NUT and surgeon. Have you started eating more outside of your plan? Are you restricting calories? Are you eating enough carbs and protein for your exercise? Are you taking your Vitamins? Are you eating often enough? Are you eating slowly with protein first? Sometimes, all you need to DO is go back to basics.
7) JOURNAL
One of the biggest things I have noticed from the various posts is how anxious and out-of-control some people feel when they notice a stall. Journaling can help you gain some perspective and deal with some of the emotional turmoil.
-- Write about how you are feeling about the stall and your weight loss, and surgery in general.
-- Write about why you had the surgery in the first place.
-- Write about what life was like before surgery.
-- Write about what you hope and dream about accomplishing in the future.
-- Write about your fears.
-- Write about your NSVs.
-- Make a gratitude list.
-- Make a bucket list.
-- Write a letter to your old self; write a letter to your new self.
Just write.
8) SEEK HELP
Stalls are when too many people seem to revert to old, counterproductive dieting behaviors (restricting calories, over exercising, bingeing, etc.). If this is you, then another thing you can DO is to talk to a counselor or therapist or consider joining a bariatric support group or a twelve-step group like Overeater's Anonymous.
The discomfort of being in a stall can also drive people to develop new, unhealthy coping habits or even transfer addictions. This is where you want to marshall all the resources you have available to you and use them.
The last, and most important thing you can DO is:
9) EMBRACE THE STALL
Stalls are a normal and natural part of the process.
Our bodies are complex systems and not simple machines.
Stalls go hand-in-hand with weight loss.
If you had Weight Loss Surgery, then you probably want to lose a significant amount of weight. So, get ready to embrace the many stalls you will experience as your body is transformed. It will be worth it.

I'd tell that person to suck my butt.
Do they walk to work or ride in a vehicle? After all, walking is the "old fashioned" way.
Do they wash their clothes in a creek or use a washing machine?
Do they take poop inside or out in the woods?
Do they take medications or just let nature take its course?
Diapers and tampons or rags? Let's talk about old fashioned!
I could go on forever but I will stand by my original answer of SUCK IT.

This mindset that so many people have about wls being the "easy way out" or a "magic cure" is exactly the reason I haven't told most people that I had surgery. Only my mother and sister know, because I know that the entire rest of my family would be super judgmental and ignorant if they knew. My 160 pound loss would cease to be a major accomplishment and would somehow just be cheating to them. I refuse to put up with that ignorance. So to them, I'm just dieting hard and working my butt off (literally) which is pretty much exactly what I'm doing anyway. No harm, no foul.

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.
Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.
Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.
Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.
Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.
It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

I'm on day 2 also, and am having the opposite experience - i'm sorry yours is going so rough! I am doing a lot of walking around - it really helps a lot with the gas pains (helps to get rid of the gas, I think?!). Others have suggested using Gas-X strips (might also make you gag) which helps with the gas. I found that burping after each sip seemed to help.
I asked about why I was having no issues compared to others, the doctor said it's just that for some people, the swelling from the surgery just goes down faster, which makes it easier to swallow.
As far as the gross tasting meds etc - all I can suggest is suck it up and do the best you can for now - it will get better, and your meds can only help you get there faster!
the mantra I keep hearing: is sip sip sip walk walk walk
it works!

black and white! the color definition in it really accents your slim shape!

Goes to show just how ignorant people can be about the facts about WLS (any and all kinds!) and how it 'works' - even those in a medical profession! Like most of the other non-weight-challenged world, he just doesn't get that it's you doing the work, and of course no inkling about how weight loss occurs or how it's not a systemic mechanical loss week per week. Try not to hold it against him - he's just a person - making dumb comments without thinking or knowing anything about it, like everyone else I'm sure he meant well, just thinking maybe your surgeon could help or something.
You're doing great, and doing everything right - and you'll get past this stall - and your rheumatologist can go pound salt!

Goes to show just how ignorant people can be about the facts about WLS (any and all kinds!) and how it 'works' - even those in a medical profession! Like most of the other non-weight-challenged world, he just doesn't get that it's you doing the work, and of course no inkling about how weight loss occurs or how it's not a systemic mechanical loss week per week. Try not to hold it against him - he's just a person - making dumb comments without thinking or knowing anything about it, like everyone else I'm sure he meant well, just thinking maybe your surgeon could help or something.
You're doing great, and doing everything right - and you'll get past this stall - and your rheumatologist can go pound salt!

Since you aren't on a true pre-op liquid diet, you could kind of do one of your own. Swap out a couple of meals a day with Protein Shakes and do high protein/low carb dinner and Snacks.< /p>

I can't be the only one who gauges a good based on its Protein content.
I do the same with Protein shakes/ powders.
Me in a store-
160 calories and ONLY 15 grams of protein??!! Not worth my time! Lol
I'm forever looking for the highest protein content with the lowest calorie commitment.
Anyone else do this?

I told my mom (my companion for the surgery itself), my brother (emergency contact), and one supervisor at work because I wanted to claim/use sick leave instead of vacation leave for the time away and he had to sign off. My mom is not telling anyone in our family because they are typically quite judgmental, and really, why do they need to know. I told my supervisor that I was not telling anyone at all, and as far as everyone else was concerned, I'm on vacation!

I'm on day 2 also, and am having the opposite experience - i'm sorry yours is going so rough! I am doing a lot of walking around - it really helps a lot with the gas pains (helps to get rid of the gas, I think?!). Others have suggested using Gas-X strips (might also make you gag) which helps with the gas. I found that burping after each sip seemed to help.
I asked about why I was having no issues compared to others, the doctor said it's just that for some people, the swelling from the surgery just goes down faster, which makes it easier to swallow.
As far as the gross tasting meds etc - all I can suggest is suck it up and do the best you can for now - it will get better, and your meds can only help you get there faster!
the mantra I keep hearing: is sip sip sip walk walk walk
it works!